Windows XP Service Pack 3 Released to Manufacturing
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#1 Posted by Max™ on 21 Apr 2008 - 19:38
- Excellent stuff! Been looking forward to this - saves me having to spend an age downloading updates.
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#3 Posted by P!P on 21 Apr 2008 - 19:51
- Anyone have that update .exe? Was supposed to be released to TechNet today...
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#3.1 Posted by +TCLN Ryster on 21 Apr 2008 - 20:00
- Says who?
The product only went final today, they are not going to get it released to anyone today. -
#3.2 Posted by XBit on 21 Apr 2008 - 20:27
- Says Neowin: Windows XP SP3 Release Dates
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#4 Posted by EaglePC on 21 Apr 2008 - 19:53
- kind of funny no build #,maybe its a no build just (xpsp.080413-2111 : Service Pack 3. )
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#5 Posted by illz55 on 21 Apr 2008 - 19:55
- Neowin was somewhat incorrect about the detailed release for April 21st. It was only RTM today, nothing else. Everyone else gets is on the 29th.
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#5.1 Posted by P!P on 21 Apr 2008 - 20:34
- (illz55 said @ #5)Neowin was somewhat incorrect about the detailed release for April 21st. It was only RTM today, nothing else. Everyone else gets is on the 29th.
Ouch, that's a little embarrassing for Neowin. I think just about every tech site was going on Neowin's dates. -
#5.2 Posted by bangbang023 on 22 Apr 2008 - 00:47
- To quote the original information I posted:# April 21, 2008: Original Equipment Manufacturers, Volume License, Connect, and MSDN and TechNet subscribers
# April 29, 2008: Microsoft Update, Windows Update, Download Center
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#5.3 Posted by Jack 0Neill on 22 Apr 2008 - 05:00
- (bangbang023 said @ #5.2)To quote the original information I posted:# April 21, 2008: Original Equipment Manufacturers, Volume License, Connect, and MSDN and TechNet subscribers
# April 29, 2008: Microsoft Update, Windows Update, Download Center
We were right the whole time.
Nope, wrong. TechNet, MSDN, Connect did not get it today. ONLY OEMs got it.
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#7 Posted by pinTero on 21 Apr 2008 - 20:00
- Damn
So the 'hooray news about april 21. for vl, msdn and technet' is not gonna happen?
Another whole week of waiting then... oh hell
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#8 Posted by Lord Zog on 21 Apr 2008 - 20:02
- From what it seems, yeah.. Woot.. Shameful too.. Been a MSDN for over 13 years and we usually get stuff first.
Didn't see it on Connect either.
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#9 Posted by pinTero on 21 Apr 2008 - 20:11
- Interesting discussions on Technet forums. Looks like MSDN people have to wait Even Longer
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowFo...0&SiteID=17
Attack of the Service Pack delays.
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#10 Posted by I am Not PCyr on 21 Apr 2008 - 20:22
- aww that sucks i want it now !!!!111
i bet they arn't releasing to to technet & msdn first cause
they know itll be leaked to everyone and spread like crazy
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#11 Posted by Landlocked on 21 Apr 2008 - 20:28
- Why don't all people get it at the same time if it's done? Don't we all deserve bug fixes and security patches NOW?
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#11.1 Posted by episode on 21 Apr 2008 - 20:33
- (Landlocked said @ #11)Why don't all people get it at the same time if it's done? Don't we all deserve bug fixes and security patches NOW?
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#11.2 Posted by Master_X on 21 Apr 2008 - 20:42
- The reason it's released to OEM and Enterprise people first is so that they can make sure it will be 100% compatible with their drivers and software. You guys should just be thankful it isn't as long of a wait from Vista SP1 going from RTM to actually being on Windows Update.
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#11.3 Posted by C_Guy on 21 Apr 2008 - 21:15
- Thankful?! Microsoft can't win with some of these people no matter what they do. The fact that Microsoft hasn't stopped adding features and fixes to Windows XP since it's initial release (all free of charge, of course) means nothing to them. Don't even ask them to be thankful. They have some weird sense of entitlement.
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#11.4 Posted by ataris_kid on 22 Apr 2008 - 01:46
- (episode said @ #11.1)(Landlocked said @ #11)Why don't all people get it at the same time if it's done? Don't we all deserve bug fixes and security patches NOW?
Its staggered so the downloading doesn't overwhelm the servers.
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#11.5 Posted by CrashGordon on 22 Apr 2008 - 03:59
- (episode said @ #11.1)(Landlocked said @ #11)Why don't all people get it at the same time if it's done? Don't we all deserve bug fixes and security patches NOW?
Its staggered so the downloading doesn't overwhelm the servers.
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#11.6 Posted by madhon on 22 Apr 2008 - 10:52
- (Master_X said @ #11.2)The reason it's released to OEM and Enterprise people first is so that they can make sure it will be 100% compatible with their drivers and software. You guys should just be thankful it isn't as long of a wait from Vista SP1 going from RTM to actually being on Windows Update.
That was also the reason it was supposed to go to technet and MSDN subscribers early as well, was only massive presure from subribers that made them bring Vista SP1s realease date forward for subscribers ......they should have learnt from that but obviously havent -
#11.7 Posted by boho on 22 Apr 2008 - 11:37
- (C_Guy said @ #11.3)(all free of charge, of course)... Don't even ask them to be thankful. They have some weird sense of entitlement.
Funny, I seem to remember purchasing the product. The fact is Microsoft have taken more than 5 years to bug fix it. I guess you are one of those suckers who pony up for repairs to faulty goods. Service packs were paid for as part of the purchase price - the fact that Microsoft use it's customers as testers is appalling! This could only come from a Vista fanboy (I'm guessing!) -
#11.8 Posted by +Dakkaroth on 22 Apr 2008 - 12:32
- (boho said @ #11.7)Funny, I seem to remember purchasing the product. The fact is Microsoft have taken more than 5 years to bug fix it. I guess you are one of those suckers who pony up for repairs to faulty goods. Service packs were paid for as part of the purchase price - the fact that Microsoft use it's customers as testers is appalling! This could only come from a Vista fanboy (I'm guessing!
It's practically impossible to find every single bug and exploit within the system when you have armies of hackers attempting to find flaws within it. Hell, not even the "most secure" OS X is flawless. No software is.
But, if you can find me an operating system that is absolutely perfect, send me a message first thing. Or better yet, send it to the Neowin staff so they can put it on the front page for everyone to know. -
#11.9 Posted by WeezulDK on 23 Apr 2008 - 03:57
- (Dakkaroth said @ #1)(boho said @ #11.7)Funny, I seem to remember purchasing the product. The fact is Microsoft have taken more than 5 years to bug fix it. I guess you are one of those suckers who pony up for repairs to faulty goods. Service packs were paid for as part of the purchase price - the fact that Microsoft use it's customers as testers is appalling! This could only come from a Vista fanboy (I'm guessing!
It's practically impossible to find every single bug and exploit within the system when you have armies of hackers attempting to find flaws within it. Hell, not even the "most secure" OS X is flawless. No software is.
But, if you can find me an operating system that is absolutely perfect, send me a message first thing. Or better yet, send it to the Neowin staff so they can put it on the front page for everyone to know.
Queue Apple Fanboi "OSX is too perfect, Steve Jobs said so!" reality field distortion comments in 3.... 2.... 1.....
Queue Linux Fanboi "you're just jealous cause you don't have to recompile your kernel, get a brain, R-Tard!" comments in 3.... 2..... 1....
Queue MS users quietly sitting back waiting for their service packs in 3..... 2.... 1.....
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#13 Posted by pinTero on 21 Apr 2008 - 20:42
- Lets hope MS changes his mind about the release date, because MSDN/Technet people are starting to go crazy again
And i dont get it, why do we have to wait? Driver issues again? Some 'secret inside' issues?
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#14 Posted by EaglePC on 21 Apr 2008 - 20:45
- big secret something fishy... oh well i just demanded a refund for my subscription of msdn ...
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#14.1 Posted by Brodel on 21 Apr 2008 - 21:06
- You paid for a subscription just to get the service pack 8 days early?
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#14.2 Posted by XerXis on 21 Apr 2008 - 21:44
- (EaglePC said @ #14)big secret something fishy... oh well i just demanded a refund for my subscription of msdn ...
NEXT!
there are two options
1) you don't have a msdn subscription
2) you have one but don't know what it is
It has to be one of these two, otherwise you wouldn't make such stupid comments
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#15 Posted by X'tyfe on 21 Apr 2008 - 20:57
- they sure dicked around enough, ill be slip streaming this ****er next week and formating
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#15.1 Posted by C_Guy on 21 Apr 2008 - 21:12
- Ahhh thanks Service Pack Expert! Yet another professionally expressed opinion permanently etched on Neowin's wall.
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#16 Posted by ThaCrip on 21 Apr 2008 - 21:59
- normally i would be waiting for this a quite a bit.... but since i switched to Vista with SP1 in late march this aint nearly as good now... cause once i tried vista i would rather not switch back to XP now overall.
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#17 Posted by Screaming Slave on 21 Apr 2008 - 22:25
- The XP crowd will finally have a new pacifier to suck on and the Vista crowd can finally sleep soundly. I think we should all take one big collective sigh and rejoice.
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#17.1 Posted by James Riske on 22 Apr 2008 - 00:15
- (Screaming Slave said @ #17)The XP crowd will finally have a new pacifier to suck on and the Vista crowd can finally sleep soundly. I think we should all take one big collective sigh and rejoice.
Actually vista just took another hit, or didn't you notice? oh wait, you are pretending not to notice, that's what fanboys do... -
#17.2 Posted by Kirkburn on 22 Apr 2008 - 01:12
- (James Riske said @ #17.1)Actually vista just took another hit, or didn't you notice? oh wait, you are pretending not to notice, that's what fanboys do...
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#17.3 Posted by toadeater on 22 Apr 2008 - 02:11
- (Screaming Slave said @ #17)The XP crowd will finally have a new pacifier to suck on and the Vista crowd can finally sleep soundly.
Just be careful that when you come out of sleep you're not deactivated by Microsoft. I don't know how you can get any sleep with all those BSODs going off anyway. -
#17.4 Posted by +GreyWolfSC on 22 Apr 2008 - 02:34
- (James Riske said @ #17.1)(Screaming Slave said @ #17)The XP crowd will finally have a new pacifier to suck on and the Vista crowd can finally sleep soundly. I think we should all take one big collective sigh and rejoice.
Actually vista just took another hit, or didn't you notice? oh wait, you are pretending not to notice, that's what fanboys do...
Kindly point out what 'hit' you're talking about? Or are you just whining? Because, you know, that's what whiners do...
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#17.5 Posted by Donovann on 22 Apr 2008 - 02:38
- (James Riske said @ #17.1)(Screaming Slave said @ #17)The XP crowd will finally have a new pacifier to suck on and the Vista crowd can finally sleep soundly. I think we should all take one big collective sigh and rejoice.
Actually vista just took another hit, or didn't you notice? oh wait, you are pretending not to notice, that's what fanboys do...
How does Windows XP entering its final stages with SP3 have anything to do with Windows Vista? For once, how about the pro-XP/anti-Vista and anti-XP/pro-Vista activists for once just shut up and let people choose what they want to use. It's their prerogative, not anyone else's.
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#18 Posted by trip21 on 21 Apr 2008 - 22:28
- stop delaying MS I'm not falling in love with Vista while I wait for a service pack to arrive!
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#19 Posted by Deathray on 21 Apr 2008 - 22:51
- Have any of you thought about the idea that this is probably the last service pack for xp so they want to get it right and be done with it?
Why would they push forward a service pack just because of a few people who are nagging about it and then have to deal with the same nagging people cry about how it's not 100% complete
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#19.1 Posted by I am Not PCyr on 22 Apr 2008 - 03:44
- (Deathray said @ #19)Have any of you thought about the idea that this is probably the last service pack for xp so they want to get it right and be done with it?
Why would they push forward a service pack just because of a few people who are nagging about it and then have to deal with the same nagging people cry about how it's not 100% complete
It's a freaking service pack.
exactly wich is why they should release NOW !
if it RTM'd its done. as in 100% complete
also many of us have waited a long time to dump our machines
and do a complete reformat and re-install and we should all know the benefit there right ?
why does this need to be explained endlessly ?
if MSDN subscribers ALWAYS got sp's in advance and they are changing their policy now
then i see why those people are mad.
and it is no burden on MS server bandwidth having us spread it amongst ourselves through BT etc
i think sp3 is so sexy im gonna install it and remove it 2 or 3 times in a row (better than watching porn)
The best way "to be done with it" is to release it. why are they holding it back ?
Do they think if they delay SP3 im gonna rush out and buy Vista ?
Why do we need to bitch about people bitching ?
i'd prefer to read peoples opinions (complaints or not)
then people complaining about the complaining lol
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#19.2 Posted by +Dakkaroth on 22 Apr 2008 - 07:54
- (I am Not PCyr said @ #19.1)exactly wich is why they should release NOW !
if it RTM'd its done. as in 100% complete
Why should they have to cater to someone who doesn't pay their bandwith bills simply because they want it now? SP3 offers minor features along with a bundle of patches combined into one. If you're already patched, you've don't have too much to worry about. No reason to be all frantic about it simply because you're totally incapable of waiting.if MSDN subscribers ALWAYS got sp's in advance and they are changing their policy now
then i see why those people are mad.
and it is no burden on MS server bandwidth having us spread it amongst ourselves through BT etc
People pay simply to get a service pack a little early? The best way "to be done with it" is to release it. why are they holding it back ?
Do they think if they delay SP3 im gonna rush out and buy Vista ?
Now that's just dumb logic. I feel that those using Vista needed SP1 much more than XP users needed SP3. It only feels right that they prioritize getting Vista's SP1 out there first. But God forbid they do things in an order that only makes sense, right?Why do we need to bitch about people bitching ?
i'd prefer to read peoples opinions (complaints or not)
then people complaining about the complaining lol
freedom of speech until its the next guys turn to talk i guess eh ?
Why do people bitch and complain about something they're getting for free? Why do they ask stupid questions when answers can simply be found through logic and the vast information available on the internet. The information is literally at your fingertips, but I guess it takes too much effort to simply find it, right?
I'm all for free speech. However, I believe everyone should at least think before trying to speak or write. -
#19.4 Posted by madhon on 22 Apr 2008 - 10:55
- (Dakkaroth said @ #19.2)[People pay simply to get a service pack a little early?
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#19.5 Posted by +Dakkaroth on 22 Apr 2008 - 12:34
- (madhon said @ #19.4)Theres just a bit more to MSDN subcriptions than early access to service packs ... of course you would know that if you had one
You missed the obvious sarcasm in my post. My point was that people don't pay for the subscription for early access to service packs.
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#20 Posted by EaglePC on 21 Apr 2008 - 23:12
- me ok now went with vista no xp for me
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#20.1 Posted by phiberoptik on 21 Apr 2008 - 23:52
- 2nd trolling comment in this thread.
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#20.2 Posted by Skyfrog on 22 Apr 2008 - 00:23
- me ok now went with vista no xp for me
What do you want, a prize?
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#21 Posted by coolkat007 on 22 Apr 2008 - 00:28
- i was waiting for this since 2 months!! lost intrest completely now...
why are they releasing it at all? they are gonna stop production in 3 months..
as for my prediction... in this 3 months time.., the demand will be really higher than expected be Microsoft.
i was working in strict non-admin mode in xp for last 2 months and its as good as vista.. just port the nagging bit of vista (UAC) to XP and some other good features.. and xp can rock the os world for atleast 3 more years..
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#21.1 Posted by +GreyWolfSC on 22 Apr 2008 - 02:39
- (coolkat007 said @ #21)i was waiting for this since 2 months!! lost intrest completely now...
why are they releasing it at all? they are gonna stop production in 3 months..
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Operating systems don't instantly evaporate when they stop selling them. Many corporate customers will use XP for years still because they don't want to upgrade an entire enterprise network and risk downtime for their business. Windows users aren't all home users with a short attention span. -
#21.2 Posted by coolkat007 on 22 Apr 2008 - 02:58
- (GreyWolfSC said @ #21.1)(coolkat007 said @ #21)i was waiting for this since 2 months!! lost intrest completely now...
why are they releasing it at all? they are gonna stop production in 3 months..
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Operating systems don't instantly evaporate when they stop selling them. Many corporate customers will use XP for years still because they don't want to upgrade an entire enterprise network and risk downtime for their business. Windows users aren't all home users with a short attention span.
1000+systems - single administrator (me)
more 1000 in next couple of months.. almost 500 old pcs going for recycling and new once coming with vista. had to opt this because 20 diff organisations i work for believe that xp has reached its end. period -
#21.3 Posted by boho on 22 Apr 2008 - 11:51
- (coolkat007 said @ #21.2)1000+systems - single administrator (me) more 1000 in next couple of months.. almost 500 old pcs going for recycling and new once coming with vista. had to opt this because 20 diff organisations i work for believe that xp has reached its end. period
You are a Troll, not even someone just looking after "desktops", could manage that amount alone. Fool, go back into your cave! "Period!"
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#22 Posted by Lord Zog on 22 Apr 2008 - 00:38
- Sure, XP is done production in 3 months, but, why have 100+ updates left on the server when they can just have 1 file? SP3 will replace ALL the patches from last month to initial launch of XP.. Only patches that will be needed are from now to the EOL.. As well, not everyone has a Vista capable machine, so saying you switched to Vista is great news, but is irrelevant to this discussion. I for one have 2 machines running Vista Ultimate, but I do have an older machine that uses XP and I won't put Vista on it just yet.
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#22.1 Posted by coolkat007 on 22 Apr 2008 - 03:02
- (Lord Zog said @ #22)Sure, XP is done production in 3 months, but, why have 100+ updates left on the server when they can just have 1 file? SP3 will replace ALL the patches from last month to initial launch of XP.. Only patches that will be needed are from now to the EOL.. As well, not everyone has a Vista capable machine, so saying you switched to Vista is great news, but is irrelevant to this discussion. I for one have 2 machines running Vista Ultimate, but I do have an older machine that uses XP and I won't put Vista on it just yet.
agreed.. may be i felt this way because i recently upgraded my machine. but when i think about my clients dumping windows xp machines.., i feel sad!
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#24 Posted by EaglePC on 22 Apr 2008 - 01:16
- they just confirmed on technet that the build number of the rtm is 5512.
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#25 Posted by EaglePC on 22 Apr 2008 - 01:17
- http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPo...2&SiteID=17
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#26 Posted by EaglePC on 22 Apr 2008 - 01:19
- http://www.winbeta.org/index.php
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#26.1 Posted by +GreyWolfSC on 22 Apr 2008 - 02:36
- Click the orange "E" next time.
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#27 Posted by sentio on 22 Apr 2008 - 01:35
- Forgive my ignorance, but will this affect Windows XP x64?
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#27.1 Posted by Dazog on 22 Apr 2008 - 01:48
- (sentio said @ #27)Forgive my ignorance, but will this affect Windows XP x64?
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#27.2 Posted by +Dakkaroth on 22 Apr 2008 - 03:02
- Translation: No.
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#28 Posted by EaglePC on 22 Apr 2008 - 01:51
- link for 5512 ?
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#28.1 Posted by kupang on 22 Apr 2008 - 02:01
- update.microsoft.com
opss.. that is one more week to go.. -
#28.2 Posted by shen on 22 Apr 2008 - 04:21
- (kupang said @ #28.1)update.microsoft.com
opss.. that is one more week to go..
and it'll be floating around via torrents in a matter of days. -
#28.3 Posted by phiberoptik on 24 Apr 2008 - 23:54
- (shen said @ #28.2)(kupang said @ #28.1)update.microsoft.com
opss.. that is one more week to go..
and it'll be floating around via torrents in a matter of days.
Days? lol..
I've seen converted xvid/divx tv shows, show up online 5 minutes after their original air time on the east coast.
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#29 Posted by stezo2k on 22 Apr 2008 - 04:58
- woot cant wait to install this
got my ISO ready for slipstreaming hehe
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#30 Posted by KPark214 on 22 Apr 2008 - 05:12
- It will prolly be available tom afternoon I would say. it usually takes about 24-48 hours to get it leaked to the public. I give it to the most by Wednesday.
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#30.1 Posted by EaglePC on 22 Apr 2008 - 07:05
- (KPark214 said @ #30)It will prolly be available tom afternoon I would say. it usually takes about 24-48 hours to get it leaked to the public. I give it to the most by Wednesday.
WEDNESDAY MY LG HDTV 52" 1080p is coming that day -
#30.2 Posted by RAID 0 on 22 Apr 2008 - 08:16
- (EaglePC said @ #30.1)(KPark214 said @ #30)It will prolly be available tom afternoon I would say. it usually takes about 24-48 hours to get it leaked to the public. I give it to the most by Wednesday.
WEDNESDAY MY LG HDTV 52" 1080p is coming that day
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#30.3 Posted by InsaneNutter on 22 Apr 2008 - 08:46
- (RAID 0 said @ #30.2)Are you gonna load SP3 on your TV?
Why not lol? Linux has been loaded in a toaster: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/raid-rye,1182.html -
#30.4 Posted by I am Not PCyr on 22 Apr 2008 - 08:49
- (RAID 0 said @ #30.2)(EaglePC said @ #30.1)(KPark214 said @ #30)It will prolly be available tom afternoon I would say. it usually takes about 24-48 hours to get it leaked to the public. I give it to the most by Wednesday.
WEDNESDAY MY LG HDTV 52" 1080p is coming that day
Are you gonna load SP3 on your TV?
that has gotta be the funniest reply ive seen in a long time LOL
i think i pee'd a little though
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#31 Posted by ThaCrip on 23 Apr 2008 - 06:25
- i just installed "WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU" (Service Pack 3 RTM) from a reliable source and everything seems cool so far but i aint going to use that much since my old pc is the only one with WindowsXP on it now as i got Vista on my new pc.
EULAID:XPSP3_RTM_UPD_UNF_EN
Digital signature Microsoft Corporation
Signing date 14 2008 g. 7:30:34"
CRC32 C411A9DA
MD5 BB25707C919DD835A9D9706B5725AF58
SHA-1 C81472F7EEEA2ECA421E116CD4C03E2300EBFDE4
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#32 Posted by erpster3 on 24 Apr 2008 - 23:36
- check this out guys! The final build [5512] of WinXP SP3 is now posted at the FreewareFiles, Majorgeeks and Softpedia download sites.
Here’s the official word, via a post to the TechNet XP Forum, thanks to sgtLENIN for the heads up:
“Today we are happy to announce that Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) has released to manufacturing (RTM). Windows XP SP3 bits are now working their way through our manufacturing channels to be available to OEM and Enterprise customers.
We are also in the final stages of preparing for release to the web (i.e. you!) on April 29th, via Windows Update and the Microsoft Download Center. Online documentation for Windows XP SP3, such as Microsoft Knowledge Base articles and the Microsoft TechNet Windows XP TechCenter, will be updated then. For customers who use Windows XP at home, Windows XP SP3 Automatic Update distribution for users at home will begin in early summer.
Thanks to everyone here who installed the public betas – you not only gave us detailed feedback but also helped each other out with timely troubleshooting. Through the beta program we found several important issues and were able to confirm some essential fixes. We couldn’t have done this without you.
We will still be monitoring this forum during the next few weeks in case you have more feedback about the release of Windows XP SP3.”