Neowin.net - Hotmail via Outlook Express no more after June 30th

Hotmail via Outlook Express no more after June 30th

Posted by Steven Parker on 22 April 2008 - 10:28 · 40 comments & 13140 views

Thanks to brent3000 who posted this in our Back Page News forum, it seems Microsoft is permanently disabling the ability to receive Hotmail via Outlook Express from June 30th. The software giant recommended via email to its DAV protocol users, the free Windows Live Mail desktop utility as an alternative.

Thank you for using Microsoft® Outlook® Express. Our information indicates that you use Outlook Express to access a Windows Live™ Hotmail® e-mail account via a protocol called DAV (Distributed Authoring and Versioning protocol). DAV, like POP3 or IMAP, is the way that a mail client communicates with a web-based mail server.

As a valued customer, we want to provide advanced notice that as of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will no longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox via Outlook Express. As an alternative, we recommend that you download Windows Live Mail, a free desktop e-mail client that has the familiarity of Outlook Express and much more. This next generation of free e-mail software will allow you to easily manage multiple e-mail accounts—including Windows Live Hotmail, plus other e-mail accounts that support POP3/IMAP. Better yet, Windows Live Mail integrates well with other Windows Live services, and downloads in minutes. After you provide your user name and password, you will automatically be linked to your Hotmail account, providing continued access to your email and contacts.

Link to: Article in Back Page News

Windows Live Mail can completely replace Outlook Express, as it supports Hotmail, GMail, Yahoo! and POP accounts:

Windows Live Mail has superior Junk Mail Filters over Outlook Express, although the glass effect is not supported in Windows XP.

Hide additional information

About the Author
Full name: Steven Parker
Forum name: Neobond
Contact: via forum PM
Submissions: Normal · Headline

Total votes: 1

Bookmark on del.icio.us

Advertisement

#1 Posted by cesc on 22 Apr 2008 - 10:52: I for one completely agree with this: Phasing out OE and bringing in WLM.

The typical excuse will be that "WLM is bloated". WLM has better support than OE for different standards so Im all for this.

(5 replies) #2 Posted by boho on 22 Apr 2008 - 10:57: Good old Microsoft, no wonder why people love them so! "Just install more software!"

(2 replies) #3 Posted by FloatingFatMan on 22 Apr 2008 - 11:20: One thing the email doesn't make clear though, and I read it most carefully when I got mine, is whether you can still access it via the full Outlook. I don't use OE or WLM... I use Outlook...

#4 Posted by El Sid on 22 Apr 2008 - 11:31: Good stuff. Outlook Express is a relic of a less advanced Age. I must admit that I didn't download WiLMa until recently, but the promise of being able to view all my hotmail/live account without having to go to live.com drew me in, and it's great. I've got 9 email accounts that I can access out of it, and this is the first time (ever), that I've been able to view them all from one application.

It does seem to lack some options though (saving draft emails so they can be accessed by other programs for one).

(1 reply) #5 Posted by Jasur on 22 Apr 2008 - 11:37: Dammit, im gonna miss my OE. Still use it today, even though i recommend others to use WLM.

Dammit.

(3 replies) #6 Posted by Steve B on 22 Apr 2008 - 12:18: Windows Live Mail still has issues though and still acts like its a beta program. I have used it at work and found a lot of the times it does NOT sync folders/emails when it says it did. You have no way of knowing this unless you go out of your way and check your mail directly on the web and find that your emails that were marked as read by WLM are still marked as unread on the web and are still in the inbox when you deleted them. This would happen even after you try and synchronize the folders/emails.

#7 Posted by Tha Bloo Monkee on 22 Apr 2008 - 13:23: I don't see what the big deal is. I mean, how old is this program? 10 years at least?
Just look how old looking it is even from the screenshots above...

(6 replies) #8 Posted by Dogward on 22 Apr 2008 - 13:46: What is the difference between Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail ?

Thanks.

(2 replies) #9 Posted by KevinRGood on 22 Apr 2008 - 14:27: Then what's the point of OutLook?

#10 Posted by MGS4-SS on 22 Apr 2008 - 15:36: Good ridance

(1 reply) #11 Posted by Xenomorph on 22 Apr 2008 - 15:51: Windows Live Mail has a weird interface to me.

It's hard to explain. The bars you drag to resize the display window are thinner than they are in OE or any other mail program.

The "header" part of each message (From/To/Subject part) is a LOT bigger than it is in OE. It takes up twice the space.

#12 Posted by antareus on 22 Apr 2008 - 16:28: It is really sad to see people claiming that this is justified because the program is so old. That has absolutely nothing to do with this decision. MS wants users to use DeltaSync so contacts, calendar, and mail can be kept in-sync between devices. I just wish the mail would also be available via IMAP or some other open standard. OE users could continue using that.

You'd think with GMail kicking them in the teeth they'd wise up, but it appears that they aren't. Guess I'll hobble on by with Thunderbird's WebMail extension from now on. Hotmail's web interface is horrible.

(1 reply) #13 Posted by necrosis on 22 Apr 2008 - 19:59: How does WLM store local e-mails? I hated OE and the default mail in Vista because there was no easy way to backup e-mails or rules.

#14 Posted by HalcyonX12 on 22 Apr 2008 - 20:37: Why don't they just let Hotmail support pop3 & imap? OE will be phased out when support for it is cut off anyway.

#15 Posted by _dandy_ on 22 Apr 2008 - 21:19: I'm too lazy too look this up--does Live mail include a newsgroup reader?

If not, sorry MS--it's the only reason I still use Outlook Express. It's "good enough" for me for plain text newsgroups, so unless WLM supports it, I have no reason to switch to something else, whether Microsoft or third-party.

Last edited by _dandy_ on 24 Apr 2008 - 23:45

#16 Posted by qdave on 22 Apr 2008 - 23:34: its about time to burry that one. i did several years ago.

#17 Posted by postoasted on 23 Apr 2008 - 02:27: You know it's kinda funny. In my WLM account I've put email adverts sent by MSFT to be viewed as junk mail by the junk mail filter. It shouldn't surprise me, it doesn't work. I still get adverts from MSFT touting this or that service. Well, its free and SkyDrive is pretty good.

#18 Posted by InsaneNutter on 23 Apr 2008 - 07:36: I presume it will still work fine in Outlook 2007?

#19 Posted by Mary1 on 26 Apr 2008 - 16:37: I do not like WLM as much as I used to like OE. The reason, I have 2 hotmail accounts, one I use for personal emails and one I use for other business & email junkies. I have had different junk mail settings on these and they had been working perfect with the OE. However, when I put these in WLM, it seems I can only have one kind of setting that is enabled on both of them. I really do not like it because I need higher junk mail protection on one (and only one). Do you guys know any way around this?
I really miss the "identities" feature that is there inn OE but not in WLM.

[1]

Commenting has either been disabled on this article or you are not logged in. Click here to login or register, its free!

Note: Anonymous commenting is disabled in order to keep the quality of responses to a high standard.

Scroll to the Top