Windows XP Service Pack 3 Timeline Update
Posted by Steven Parker on 22 April 2008 - 09:58 · 27 comments & 13822 views
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#1 Posted by madhon on 22 Apr 2008 - 10:34
- So once again as per Vista SP1 the technet/msdn/vl subscribers get screwed over
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#2 Posted by MightyJordan on 22 Apr 2008 - 10:36
- So June 10th until I have to turn off Automatic Updates then!
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#2.1 Posted by El Sid on 22 Apr 2008 - 11:12
- Don't forget that they will still be releasing patches after SP3!
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#2.3 Posted by toadeater on 22 Apr 2008 - 19:31
- (Skyfrog said @ #2.2)Why on earth would you turn off automatic updates?
To avoid faulty updates that happen every few months. You can never be too sure when an Automatic Update will break something on your system. I like to make sure there are no reports of errors or hardware conflicts before downloading any new updates.
Most businesses follow the same policy. Test first, deploy later. -
#2.4 Posted by hosebeast on 22 Apr 2008 - 21:25
- I would agree that Microsoft's sloppy management of Automatic Updates has given people reason to distrust it. On the other hand, if you distrust Automatic Updates across the board (without any specific basis, such as a known issue with a particular update), then it doesn't make sense that you would ever have it enabled. If you never turn it on, then there would not be any need to turn it off by any given date such as June 10.
A more likely scenario would be if you were tight on disk space and didn't want something as large as a service pack to be downloaded until you were ready, or if you had a specific application which had been tested with the SP3 beta and found to be incompatible so you wanted to defer the service pack until you could obtain an upgrade for the application. For scenarios like these, there is the Service Pack Blocker Tool Kit. -
#2.5 Posted by Kev_B on 27 Apr 2008 - 18:43
- (toadeater said @ #2.3)(Skyfrog said @ #2.2)Why on earth would you turn off automatic updates?
To avoid faulty updates that happen every few months. You can never be too sure when an Automatic Update will break something on your system. I like to make sure there are no reports of errors or hardware conflicts before downloading any new updates.
Most businesses follow the same policy. Test first, deploy later.
Good point. Somehow automatic updates got turned on on our Exchange server and it knocked the whole thing offline for the first part of the business day! ...it sucked.
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#3 Posted by +DrCheese on 22 Apr 2008 - 10:55
- Why does it take them so long to get it online for everyone? They have problems if it takes them over a week to upload it to servers around the world.
RTM means nothing nowadays really.
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#4 Posted by DJ Prem on 22 Apr 2008 - 10:55
- I don't understand why MSDN/Technet professionals who pay get it later then public release.
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#5 Posted by +Maximum Error on 22 Apr 2008 - 11:15
- This is exactly why I started this thread! http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=632638
Have you been to the technet XP forum? people there are not happy at all about this. This has got to be the first release where the public have it before the professionals?
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#6 Posted by pippi123 on 22 Apr 2008 - 12:17
- what is the "windows xp sp3 fulfillment media" on 05/19? is this the iso slipstreamed by microsoft?
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#6.1 Posted by Hawkeye on 22 Apr 2008 - 14:32
- If I had to guess, I would say that it is probably just a CD version of the standalone SP3. This is obviously useful for those who are not on a broadband connection, as well as those who may want to distribute it to others who may not be aware of it. I imagine that many major electronics retailers will have plenty of these as well, much the same way that they did with SP2.
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#7 Posted by MGS4-SS on 22 Apr 2008 - 15:37
- So where is it?
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#7.1 Posted by stezo2k on 22 Apr 2008 - 22:09
- good question; i would of thought it would of been leaked by now
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#7.2 Posted by ozzy76 on 23 Apr 2008 - 01:37
- (stezo2k said @ #7.1)good question; i would of thought it would of been leaked by now
You just don't know where to look, my friend. Arrrr mateys -
#7.3 Posted by Skyfrog on 23 Apr 2008 - 02:02
- Aye, to be sure it has leaked. Just got it thanks to Rapidshare, now as soon as my new DVD-RW drive comes from Newegg I can set about slipstreaming and installing a nice fresh copy of XP on my system. About time too, I've had enough of Vista for one lifetime.
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#8 Posted by Gup20 on 22 Apr 2008 - 15:53
- Funny that VL customers are nearly dead last. I work as an IT professional for a 1 Billion dollar/year company. We have volume licensing. We pay Microsoft in the neighborhood of $1 million a year for our volume licensing, and yet we are less important to Microsoft than the guy who got Windows XP for $150 at a store who never heard of Service Pack 3, and has no intention of ever installing it.
Actually, their intention is to force business (read professionals) to use Vista, and discourage use of XP. It is counter productive to this goal to release update software to professionals and businesses. -
#8.1 Posted by hosebeast on 22 Apr 2008 - 21:48
- I don't think you're looking at it the same way Microsoft does. There is absolutely nothing stopping you or any VL customer from downloading SP3 from the public download site.
For a free, publicly-available download like SP3, the only reason it ever gets added to the Microsoft Select, MSDN, and TechNet download servers is just for the sake of keeping those sites' catalogs consistent with the contents of physical media which has been shipped. Microsoft's public download infrastructure simply has more bandwidth and scalability available than any other. The Select/TechNet/MSDN servers are intended for use with FTM, which incurs overhead due to authentication and encryption because the majority of downloads on these sites are not free and publicly available.
If Microsoft released SP3 first to Select/TechNet/MSDN, those servers would get slammed, which would: (1) slow the non-public downloads for subscribers who have no alternative site, and (2) realistically, result in slower downloads for SP3 than you would get from the public download servers.their intention is to force business (read professionals) to use Vista, and discourage use of XP. It is counter productive to this goal to release update software to professionals and businesses.
No, it was their intention to force businesses to use XP when they completely cancelled SP5 for Windows 2000. However, the mere fact that they are releasing SP3 for Windows XP at all is proof that they support people who are continuing to use Windows XP. If your organization has a current EA, SA, or other MVLS agreement covering the desktop OS, then Microsoft's only obligation was to provide Vista, so you should be looking at XP SP3 as a free gift.
Let's be honest. You're really just upset because you feel insulted. You're not really looking at SP3's release from a logical/practical standpoint. You want to treat SP3 like a badge of honor, a sign of prestige. Your billion dollar company wasn't planning to deploy SP3 in production across the entire network next week. In fact, Microsoft's official stance has always been (and still is) that SP3 is due "in the first half of 2008" so if you were making plans at all, you shouldn't have been shooting for earlier than June 30.
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#9 Posted by Franky601 on 23 Apr 2008 - 04:12
- Now available in technet plus top downloads!
(Probably MSDN too, can't tell)
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#10 Posted by TRC on 23 Apr 2008 - 04:20
- I've been waiting a long time to take this screenshot: W00T!
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#11 Posted by rbanksy on 23 Apr 2008 - 08:38
- ATTENTION MSDN USERS:
I think this is the direct link ;-)
http://downloads.msdn.microsoft.com/downlo...fcd8b4c8ffd0723
I am downloading SP3 now. -
#11.1 Posted by hentaiboy on 23 Apr 2008 - 21:26
- (rbanksy said @ #11)ATTENTION MSDN USERS:
I think this is the direct link ;-)
http://downloads.msdn.microsoft.com/downlo...fcd8b4c8ffd0723
I am downloading SP3 now.
I'm getting an error message in the download manager as soon as it starts the transfer
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#11.2 Posted by rbanksy on 24 Apr 2008 - 13:33
- Whilst that is the Direct link, you need to be logged into MSDN first.
Or it will not authenticate you.
quote=hentaiboy said,#11.1][quote=rbanksy said,#11]ATTENTION MSDN USERS:
I think this is the direct link ;-)
http://downloads.msdn.microsoft.com/downlo...fcd8b4c8ffd0723
I am downloading SP3 now.[/quote]
I'm getting an error message in the download manager as soon as it starts the transfer[/quote]
Nick MacKechnie: Windows XP SP3 has been released to manufacturing as of April 21st (US Time) with the release to web planned for April 29th (US Time). The detailed schedule by channel is below. Winbeta also reports that Nick MacKechnie's blog post was removed later during the day. Nevertheless, the release schedule from his blog post can be found below.
Windows XP SP3 - detailed by channel schedule, planned dates (US)