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AMD Phenom X4 having problems with AMD 780G chipset.

Daniel Fleshbourne   via C|Net on 29 April 2008 - 13:13 · 11 comments & 10307 views

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C|Net is reporting that there are potentially even more problems on the horizon for AMD. Apparently AMD confirmed that it is having compatibility problems between its newly released 9750 and 9850 Phenom x4 125w TDP CPUs when placed in its 780G chipset based motherboards.

"They've taken an enthusiast-class quad-core part and paired it with a mainstream motherboard," James Whitman (AMD Rep) said. "And not all motherboard manufacturers have tweaked their boards to support a 125-watt TDP."

Whitman says that AMD's 790 chipset--not the 780--should be paired with the 9750 and 9850 processors and that a number of motherboard makers are already doing this. "We've never made claims that 780G motherboards are enthusiast-class motherboards. "Manufactures have taken an enthusiast-class quad core part and paired it with a mainstream motherboard”

Not that it’s unreasonable to assume they should work together. It’s common for “mainstream” Intel chipsets with ATX and M-ATX motherboards to accept its Quad core CPUs (e.g P35).

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#1 Beastage on 29 Apr 2008 - 13:53
AMD have been totally incoherent with anything related to motherboards , just take example ASUS mobo site...

You have 3 intel categories and I think 7 or 6 AMD categories... its not good business.
#2 fuzzieb on 29 Apr 2008 - 14:50
This was reported on Anandtech on April 5th...

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3279&p=2

In their testing there wasn't an issue with the chipset , but with the motherboards design.

Quote from Anandtech...

"The vast majority of the 780G boards have a three-phase or four-phase PWM circuitry design. These designs are completely acceptable for the 45W, 65W, 89W, and 95W TDP rated processors; however, drop in a 125W TDP processor such as the Phenom 9850e or 6400+ X2 and you are asking for trouble."

And an update to their original article...

http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=427
(1 reply) #3 ahhell on 29 Apr 2008 - 15:44
AMD = FAIL

Something is seriously wrong with that company.
#3.1 J400uk on 29 Apr 2008 - 17:43
+1
(2 replies) #4 CyberWolf on 29 Apr 2008 - 15:52
All I want to know is what happened to all the AMD fanboys on the web?
#4.1 tsupersonic on 29 Apr 2008 - 16:54
They all jumped on the Intel bandwagon.
#4.2 The Walker on 29 Apr 2008 - 17:55
(tsupersonic said @ #4.1)
They all jumped on the Intel bandwagon.


No.. we all just realise that AMD have screwed up and we're waiting (calmly ) to see how the issues are remedied.
#5 Midnight Mick on 29 Apr 2008 - 18:29
AMD used to be good.

Emphasis on "USED TO BE GOOD"!
#6 MajinFix on 29 Apr 2008 - 19:56
lol you all brag about how AMD sucks, but AMD is only one who has a chance to compete with intel because of technology and licences they posses, ok they are not as good as they used to be, but I sure hope they will work i out for theirs sake first
(1 reply) #7 Narlzac85 on 29 Apr 2008 - 23:51
This only effects people who are building their own computers. System builders should research the cpu support lists of boards before just slapping 2 parts together. Its the same on the intel side. You could take an old 775 board and a new quad core and think they should work fine together, but they probably won't because of power requirements which falls on the board manufacturers to make buyers aware of. If this information was in big letters in the description ("NOT 125W capable", then there would be no issue at all.

On the topic of AMD failing as a company; its bad, but they have the technology to recover and in a worst case scenario, someone will buy them up. So they're here to stay for a long time still. And you should hope so, because we've seen what happens when Intel has no competition and what they are capable of when they have to be the best.
#7.1 Ledward on 04 May 2008 - 07:10
The thing is though, the 780 and 790 boards are both current-generation products and one would expect that they work with a current generation CPU. Most of the 780 boards document that they don't take a 125W TDP CPU but it's hidden somewhere deep and inaccessible.

If you take a Core 2-generation motherboard, it should accept any Core 2 processor. Even though the P965 chipset wasn't designed to take a 45nm processor most mobo manufacturers have got their boards to accept them with a BIOS update.

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