This just in from Bink, seems he had a pretty interesting weekend attempting to Slipstream XP SP3.
"So I build a new Windows XP ISO with SP3 integrated, this is a Volume License editions (VOL) which only accepts Volume License Keys (VLK). When I want to install it on a clean machine, I noticed that setup prompts for a product key and it does not allow me to continue, which should be a new feature in XP sp3. OK so I fill in the VLK but it does not accept it, I try another one from a customer of mine, does not work either. Angry
I found out that the problem is when you do the XP Sp3 slipstream process on a WIndows Vista machine, the API gives a different response and screws up the PID process. This is a bug and Microsoft knew about this in December, still the bug remained and made it all the way to RTM, nice work Microsoft.
So XP SP slipstream only on XP or 2003 machines!!!"
News Source: Bink
"So I build a new Windows XP ISO with SP3 integrated, this is a Volume License editions (VOL) which only accepts Volume License Keys (VLK). When I want to install it on a clean machine, I noticed that setup prompts for a product key and it does not allow me to continue, which should be a new feature in XP sp3. OK so I fill in the VLK but it does not accept it, I try another one from a customer of mine, does not work either. Angry
I found out that the problem is when you do the XP Sp3 slipstream process on a WIndows Vista machine, the API gives a different response and screws up the PID process. This is a bug and Microsoft knew about this in December, still the bug remained and made it all the way to RTM, nice work Microsoft.
So XP SP slipstream only on XP or 2003 machines!!!"
News Source: Bink
How is that letting users down? 99% of all people installing SP3 in the world will simply have it install via Automatic Updates and don't even know what slipstreaming is.
How is that letting users down? 99% of all people installing SP3 in the world will simply have it install via Automatic Updates and don't even know what slipstreaming is.
That is not really relevant is it....
If Microsoft knew that the bug was present in december, it's a bad thing it made it to RTM. And it doesn't matter how many users wil use the function....
If Microsoft knew that the bug was present in december, it's a bad thing it made it to RTM. And it doesn't matter how many users wil use the function....
Of course it matters how many people will use the function (in this case slipstreaming an XP OS on a Vista system). Companies generally try to fix the bugs that'll affect the most people, & then work from there, it's not like they have an unlimited supply of people to work on these things. To assume that a company can fix everything regardless of the user base, sorry that's just silly.
Besides, if you're with a company who gets VLK CDs, aren't you going to end up with a XP VLK CD w/ SP3 pre-slipstreamed anyway? And, like the other poster said, the vast majority of XP slipstreamers won't be doing this on Vista. I know I didn't.
Maybe MS should take some people off the Zune, Silverlight, and Live teams, since they aren't doing anything worth a damn.
MS must be one of the most inefficient companies in the world. It blows BILLIONS on unproductive nonsense every year.
I'm starting to think that MS is some sort of fraternity where they spend 75% of their time goofing off. How does a company with tens of thousands of supposedly professional employees manage to screw things up worse than the no-budget hobbyist Linux community?
It must be the management...
MS must be one of the most inefficient companies in the world. It blows BILLIONS on unproductive nonsense every year.
I'm starting to think that MS is some sort of fraternity where they spend 75% of their time goofing off. How does a company with tens of thousands of supposedly professional employees manage to screw things up worse than the no-budget hobbyist Linux community?
It must be the management...
Troll much? Exactly what does ANY of that have to do with slipstreaming XP service packs?
I didn't know this about Pitchfork. Good on them for sending Gates and Ballme packing!
MS must be one of the most inefficient companies in the world. It blows BILLIONS on unproductive nonsense every year.
I'm starting to think that MS is some sort of fraternity where they spend 75% of their time goofing off. How does a company with tens of thousands of supposedly professional employees manage to screw things up worse than the no-budget hobbyist Linux community?
It must be the management...
Troll much? Exactly what does ANY of that have to do with slipstreaming XP service packs?
TROLL ? BS !
i enjoyed his comment even if i dont fully agree (but i do)
why can't you people leave the modding to the admins ?
The internet is about the transfer of information even if it doesn't line up with your opinions.
your comment was MORE worthless than his..
if i had to define a TROLL comment it would be yours !
he stated his opinion and you came along and crapped on em for no reason and "called troll"
we're all forever in debt for such valuable troll spotting services
and the topic ? lol
we'll old news for me but its good people are getting the news spread around
and its just one more reason why vista sux as far as im concerned
This is nothing new, I first noticed this with slipstreaming Service Pack 2. I won't go into a lot of detail, as my post will be deleted, but it has to do with the pre 2001 release of the stolen VLK key XP version. Changes were made to prevent the use of stolen VLK, and "KeyGen" created VLK's. PIDgen.dll and a few other files were updated. Replacing with the original files and using WinNT.sif may well overcome this problem. Microsoft will not fix this. Since they have had to add a new algorithm to add more legal keys. Microsoft will just offer Volume Licensed customers a new SP3 installation disk.
How is that letting users down? 99% of all people installing SP3 in the world will simply have it install via Automatic Updates and don't even know what slipstreaming is.
That is not really relevant is it....
If Microsoft knew that the bug was present in december, it's a bad thing it made it to RTM. And it doesn't matter how many users wil use the function....
i take it you know very little about software development, all software has bugs that are known to the developer, they just dont fix ones that are unlikely to occur in the wild, or that will only affect a small minority fo customers.
sprouting lol
sprouting lol
Heheh.. saw the comments and rofl'd a bit too
Your best bet is to order an OEM copy from an Microsoft certified supplier. Also if you're an Certified Partner in the OEM program, you can get OEM disks for free.
among other bugs like during install iam asked for napclientprov.mof / and ICS/windowsfirewall service not working and refusing to start despite trying all the guides out on the net to "fix" the problem.
should we stay away from using nlite to slipstrem or has ms now made xp so we cant nlite and custommize our installations?
Bye
That's right
iam buring a sp3 student version and will test it out on a VM. i wounder if it will install with out the PK
Interesting though.
Unbelievable...
It's 'new' news, because SP3 is no longer beta? It's 'new' news because it's 'still doing it'.
****s sake people, get a clue.
NM
I missread the story.
Meh...I'll just keep Vista SP1. I don't have any plans on downgrading anyway.
Meh...I'll just keep Vista SP1. I don't have any plans on downgrading anyway.
Is it that hard? If you put together a VL SP3 disc on Vista, it won't work.
The disc is created, prompts for a key, and does NOT accept any key.
It doesn't matter how or where you intend on installing XP, if it was a Volume License SP3 disc put together under Vista, it will not install.
I just made a slipstreamed XP x86 SP3 disc last night on XP x64. It works fine.
Are they on about the process using nlite or something else
(from the Bink news source link above)
Figured I'd throw that out there if you *really* need to do this under Vista for whatever reason.
Microsoft Integrated Images:
Windows XP Professional With SP3 - Retail: Asks for a CD-key but you can choose not to enter one.
Windows XP Professional With SP3 - Volume License: Always makes you enter a CD key. Can't install without one.
This is almost too easy lol
i slipstreamed sp3 onto my xp home oem disc on vista and installed it onto my laptop without any problems.
Thankfully i read them (sorry i don't the links here) minutes after making a guide for my blog.
you can slipstream your VLK-CD in Vista, if you are using the "XPslipper" tool in compatibility mode of Windows XP how the picture shows.
www.winsupportforum.de
Actually there is a german version only, but we plan to release an english version soon. Sorry, you have to register for viewing pictures and download the tool, but it works too with windows 2000!
The slipstream was done on a thinkpad running XP/SP3 (yes, SP3 already) and it went well. However, I tried the slipstreamed CD in a virtual machine for installation, it did not take my VL key (tried with two keys). And, strangely, it DID take a non-VL key that I obtained from MSDN subscription. I noticed on the window where it asked for the key that it says key is optional.
It appears to me that the slipstream has turned my VL CD into a non-VL XP CD.
This has nothing to do with the Vista as mentioned in this article.
I am thinking if it is the problem to slipstream on a machine running SP3 already. Please also note that my thinkpad is not running a VL license (instead, an OEM from IBM).
The other difference is that I put a answer file into the CD for unattended installation.
I am pretty sure the original CD that I used for slipstream a VL CD. I just used it to install a few weeks back.
Anyone has tried with a similar combination like above?
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