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HP: Teen Edition

Horrocks   on 17 May 2008 - 16:24 · 49 comments & 22713 views

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HP's director of future innovations, Ameer Karim, has announced that HP will be launching a fall line of "Teen" PC products. HP has hired a council of teenagers who will help design the products, and even HP's website.

"That's a major transformation for a company like HP, which has been much more focused on an older crowd," said Karim.

Going from business friendly to teen friendly is a big step. Currently the devices that will be designed are unknown, however more details will be available in the future.

Does HP have some new innovations up their sleeves, or will we see a price hike for standard PC specs?

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#1 Citrusleak on 17 May 2008 - 16:28
I think it COULD be a good idea. And that's a big could because they could end up turning out really good or they could be heading in a really wrong direction with how they are designing them and how much they cost.
(7 replies) #2 +Kushan on 17 May 2008 - 17:00
Do they come with extra sharp edges so they can cut themselves while writing about how much their life sucks on their LJ's at the same time?
#2.1 warwagon on 17 May 2008 - 18:02
lol
#2.2 Esvandiary on 17 May 2008 - 18:15
(Kushan said @ #2)
Do they come with extra sharp edges so they can cut themselves while writing about how much their life sucks on their LJ's at the same time?

This thread is now about sweeping generalisations. Oh, wait - it was already! My bad.
#2.3 Cierro on 18 May 2008 - 01:27
Not funny, at all.
#2.4 kaiwai on 18 May 2008 - 12:37
(Cierro said @ #2.3)
Not funny, at all.


*gives Cierro a blade* go off and listen to My Chemical Romance/AFI/Fall Out Boy.
#2.5 ^_^ Silly Willy on 19 May 2008 - 00:32
What's an LJ?
#2.6 RAID 0 on 19 May 2008 - 06:03
(^_^ Silly Willy said @ #2.5)
What's an LJ?


It's like a BJ, but better!

Oh.. and if you have to ask.... you can't afford it.
#2.7 tsutton on 19 May 2008 - 07:56
(^_^ Silly Willy said @ #2.5)
What's an LJ?


LiveJournal!
#3 Electric Bolt on 17 May 2008 - 17:54
I hope they are going to get a top of the line team of teenagers... Not some *just became teenagers*, and then like screw it up and make them have mickey mouses on the case and stuff, and for the design used, raise the price from 900 dollars to like 2,499 dollars...


Or maybe they might change the design for the better so it will look really useful, maybe give it more of a clean design with extra features, that would be better. I hate how all those computers have a dumb card thing in the front so you can insert your digital camera or phone card. Why don't they put that somewhere more resourceful, maybe on the top of the case right by a new Windows side show device. and maybe a slide left to right cover so we don't have to look at all those small holes in your computer. I just don't like having that dumb card thing on the computer, very useful when you don't have a printer with a card thing in it, or some extra device connected that supports them but do something to make them look more clean. Maybe we can get rid of all those freaking pretend DVD drives that look like they slide DVDs in and out but just have this ugly cover on them and put real sliding drives in.

I think HP and some other brand computers got it confused a little, cover the cards thing and don't cover the DVD drives and instead put sweet slide drives in.
#4 simon360 on 17 May 2008 - 19:05
Hopefully they're picking some practical teenagers. Not the "Let's impress our friends!" ones, but the ones who have some sense of design and what a product actually needs. For example, laptops with big logos, etc. that look "cool" don't necessarily look good. And please, PLEASE put in a reasonable keyboard and trackpad! The current HP laptops are uncomfortable to put your hands on. Why did they decide to replace a smooth trackpad with a bunch of small dents?

My guess is that we'll end up with something Macbook-y out of this. My friends definitely like Macs more than regular laptops, mainly because they're beautifully designed compared to a majority of other laptops out there.

Don't ask why, but I don't see a desktop coming out of this. And I somehow doubt you can make a teen-friendly camera or printer.
#5 +-Vivicidal- on 17 May 2008 - 19:29
This is ridiculous, I'm 16 and I would CATEGORICALLY NOT buy something which even had input from someone my age.
#6 rajputwarrior on 17 May 2008 - 19:57
anyone see that special ARTIST edition laptop... it was god awful ugly, and if this is what the Teen Editions are going to be about... this is going to suck
#7 brianshapiro on 17 May 2008 - 20:29
Anything labeled as "teen" is almost always patronizing crap.

Most teenagers don't like thinking of themselves as "teens" and think teen spirit is a joke invented by adults.

The teens that do talk about themselves as teens are tools.
(1 reply) #8 Burst404 on 17 May 2008 - 20:43
Lame.
#8.1 LTD on 17 May 2008 - 22:28
+1
(1 reply) #9 seamer on 17 May 2008 - 21:24
Where's the division consisting of people who've been using pc's for longer than those kids have been alive? The same people who'd be able to actually afford the new designs?
#9.1 simon360 on 17 May 2008 - 22:58
I believe you're talking about the people who work for the company already. Business people need stuff for only work, teens often need a computer for school, and anyone else either uses a crappy PC they picked up at Best Buy (for sending emails), build their own (if they actually care), or pick up a computer for students or business people.

I have a feeling that when they refer to "teens", they mean first and second year college/university students. Those are the people who will be able to afford them. And quite honestly, the student market is much bigger than the one you're a part of (laptops are becooming more and more of a requirement in many colleges and universities).
(5 replies) #10 Budious on 17 May 2008 - 21:58
I used to hide my pot stash in my old PC years ago when I smoked in high school... so I think there a potential market here if they do small things like integrated stash bins or quick release panels
#10.1 LTD on 17 May 2008 - 22:29
ROFL

Very swift.
#10.2 Oxuyoska on 18 May 2008 - 13:35
(Budious said @ #10)
I used to hide my pot stash in my old PC years ago when I smoked in high school... so I think there a potential market here if they do small things like integrated stash bins or quick release panels



I'll do you one better, a place inside the case to put DVDs full of porn.
#10.3 +Smigit on 18 May 2008 - 23:33
(Oxuyoska said @ #10.2)
(Budious said @ #10)
I used to hide my pot stash in my old PC years ago when I smoked in high school... so I think there a potential market here if they do small things like integrated stash bins or quick release panels



I'll do you one better, a place inside the case to put DVDs full of porn.
Isn't that what the hard disk is for?
#10.4 RAID 0 on 19 May 2008 - 06:07
(Smigit said @ #10.3)
(Oxuyoska said @ #10.2)
(Budious said @ #10)
I used to hide my pot stash in my old PC years ago when I smoked in high school... so I think there a potential market here if they do small things like integrated stash bins or quick release panels



I'll do you one better, a place inside the case to put DVDs full of porn.
Isn't that what the hard disk is for?


My dad had one of his cop friends come over when I was about 15 years old, they searched my hard drive (all 420 megs) and deleted my porn stash. I was kinda ****ed. I even did the old ALT 255 in DOS when I made the directory. :-(

I miss my old HS porn stash.
#10.5 +Smigit on 19 May 2008 - 07:44
(RAID 0 said @ #10.4)
(Smigit said @ #10.3)
(Oxuyoska said @ #10.2)
(Budious said @ #10)
I used to hide my pot stash in my old PC years ago when I smoked in high school... so I think there a potential market here if they do small things like integrated stash bins or quick release panels



I'll do you one better, a place inside the case to put DVDs full of porn.
Isn't that what the hard disk is for?


My dad had one of his cop friends come over when I was about 15 years old, they searched my hard drive (all 420 megs) and deleted my porn stash. I was kinda ****ed. I even did the old ALT 255 in DOS when I made the directory. :-(

I miss my old HS porn stash.
use "true crypt" and put all your porn on an encrypted virtual drive
#11 shen on 18 May 2008 - 00:48
this just in: the cases will be entirely black and will cut holes/mods in themselves.

what a joke.
(1 reply) #12 duphus on 18 May 2008 - 02:36
This just in: HP buys the rights for the LOL Keyboard

#12.1 toadeater on 18 May 2008 - 21:42
Art Lebedev should make the LED programmable version of that.
#13 liveseven on 18 May 2008 - 03:31
Whats with everyone putting down teens? Sure some may be a pain in the ass, but there are in fact ones out there that are smart and dont do any of the things you said.

I find most of your posts above the same way you are calling teens. Immature..
#14 jpcahn on 18 May 2008 - 03:33
Is it going to come preloaded with every file sharing spyware application om the market? I am sick to death of having to reload computers because teenagers destroy them in a day by downloading everything they shouldn't be. If HP wants to make a real teen computer take off IE and put on Firefox. That would at least be a start. Make sure that any program with the words Donkey, Mule, Kazaa, or Lime will not install while they are at it.
#15 liveseven on 18 May 2008 - 03:37
Another useless comment. Teens actually prefer firefox because it allows some proxies to by pass myspace at school. though most techs at school have blocked almost every single proxie on the net..

Do teenagers destroy computers? not all, Do you work at a school? please explain..

i'm not saying this is a great idea, not a bad one..... i'm just saying you guys should all watch your comments as your saying teens are all immature and stuff when your doing the same thing by making fun of them
#16 liveseven on 18 May 2008 - 03:39
I hope they actually chose 17-19 year olds. they grew up in the time where personal computers were new and schools started lessons in the computer lab to get kids familer with computers... 17-19 are ideal for this 16 and younger should work for them...
(1 reply) #17 jpcahn on 18 May 2008 - 04:32
I work at an office and I support 100 people they bring me their home computers when they need help with them. I can tell you without a doubt that teenagers using file sharing software slow windows to the point that it is unuseable. If you run a spyware scan on the computer it finds a ridiculous amount of stuff. The only way to fix it is to do a system restore. I am not trying to hate on teens but more on the companies that make this software. They are the real problem.
#17.1 RAID 0 on 19 May 2008 - 06:09
Good. That keeps people like me in business.
(5 replies) #18 Hak Foo on 18 May 2008 - 05:09
This is going to turn into an excuse to make computers which feature cases you'll NEVER be able to fit a replacement mainboard into, because the design looks cooler.

I know I'm not a teenager anymore, but what I want is a really good out-of-the-box experience, which means:

* No 50 "free trial antimalware" programs. Instead, how abouyt a leaflet on best-practice computing?

* No 20 "ISP signup offers" (the first-time market is now small, so people have an ISP of choice).

* When I get it out of the box and plugged in, I want to be up and running in five minutes. I've seen machines which take like 20 minutes just to do the first boot "preparing your desktop" and loading all the OEM's "assistant" software. Aside from all the lovely "agree to a 90 page EULA" screens.

* Speaking from when I was a student, I wish they'd bring ribbon printers back. The all-or-nothing nature of inkjet print is a huge liability when it's the night before your term paper is due, and you run out. A dot-matrix ribbon, you can always get 5 more pages out of it in an emergency. They'll hate the lack of people HAVING to immediately buy new cartridges, but they can go to hell in this regard.

* Give us some open-source goodies to stock your bundles. Nobody wants Microsoft Works or WordPerfect Suite, but we'd gladly accept OpenOffice. And who exactly are we capitulating to by not bundling the GIMP?

* On a similar vein, can we make sure the legitimate 'mandatory' stuff is installed? Things like the Flash plugin and a PDF reader? I'd also love to see somehow they ticked all the "don't tell me how a secure page works again" boxes.
#18.1 PureLegend on 18 May 2008 - 06:30
It's all money. They get paid to bundle that crap in, driving prices down.
#18.2 Xilo on 18 May 2008 - 08:07
#1 rule of buying a Windows OEM computer is to first format the drive and reinstall Windows.
#18.3 plastikaa on 18 May 2008 - 09:49
Yep people dont want this crap... but like the lower prices. Thats why computers from better high end manufactures cost more when you turn it on you are welcomed with just a recycle bin on your desktop and a nice short programs menu.
#18.4 Gilly on 18 May 2008 - 12:06
(Xilo said @ #18.2)
#1 rule of buying a Windows OEM computer is to first format the drive and reinstall Windows.


Unfortunately that's becoming impossible, as OEMs don't tend to bundle a Windows disc any more, instead relying on a "recovery" disc that accesses a hidden recovery partition on the HDD. And if you do that, then you're back to square 1 with all the annoying proprietary software.
#18.5 RAID 0 on 19 May 2008 - 06:19
(Gilly said @ #18.4)
(Xilo said @ #18.2)
#1 rule of buying a Windows OEM computer is to first format the drive and reinstall Windows.


Unfortunately that's becoming impossible, as OEMs don't tend to bundle a Windows disc any more, instead relying on a "recovery" disc that accesses a hidden recovery partition on the HDD. And if you do that, then you're back to square 1 with all the annoying proprietary software.



.. and that's why you build your own! If you're going the laptop route... get a white box.
#19 PureLegend on 18 May 2008 - 06:31
I wouldn't ever buy this unless it was REALLY cool, but then I'm not an HP fan.
#20 devHead on 18 May 2008 - 14:16
I can see their new TV ads - "Dude, you're gettin' a Hewlett Packard!" I don't know, it just doesn't have the same ring...
#21 - Kaboose - on 18 May 2008 - 14:58
whats that i hear from a distance ? .....F....A....I.....L... !!
#22 +Elven on 18 May 2008 - 17:41
I think it's a good idea, but will equal a phail.
#23 liveseven on 18 May 2008 - 19:37
The problem with people today is they judge teens as no good,dont know anything. whitch may be true for 13-16 year olds. or what the old people call them "punks" My son is almost 18 and hes quite mature. Voted Senior class president, is on the schools leadership team so not all teens are bad........

#24 atari800 on 18 May 2008 - 19:55
Well the tag of "designed for teens" is what makes this comedic.

I hope it inst stupid changes - like "laptop with denim exterior" or "audible myspace/facebook alerts" that someone updated

(3 replies) #25 liveseven on 18 May 2008 - 20:54
You do know they wont be working alone. HP will the their boss and teens will work with HP...

Keep in mind older teens (16-18+) grew up in the 90s when elementary schools first started to use computers for lessons to get the kids familer with the new world. Now its their turn to take the kids of tomorow and give them the help they got in the 90s.
#25.1 strekship on 18 May 2008 - 22:35
Lets hope they don't use the MacSEs I had back in grade school as a template for designing these new computers.
#25.2 RAID 0 on 19 May 2008 - 06:20
(strekship said @ #25.1)
Lets hope they don't use the MacSEs I had back in grade school as a template for designing these new computers.


It was the Apple IIe for me.
#25.3 atari800 on 20 May 2008 - 11:10
I understand that HP will be guiding them.

I just hope it is not stereotypical teen adjustments/add-ons

God forbid they make an HP Commercial like a Mentos commercial
- kids running through a mall, get to the food court in time to meet other friends so they can blog about the mall

Or even lower themselves to "respond to the mac commercials" - byargh I hate those

But this is funny .... IF you hate the mac commercials
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JixbzFjv_cU

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