3G iPhone To Launch June 9
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#1 Posted by Unplugged on 21 May 2008 - 08:13
- Thanks but ill prob wait an extra month and buy a decent smartphone current to the times with an OS I can do as I please with and not have to hack about. Oh and it will cost me practically nothing and ill get a decent contract with it that doesn't give me a 1998 call plan.
With the savings I will buy an iTouch -
#1.1 Posted by Islander on 21 May 2008 - 08:22
- Do you live on the moon? The SDK delivers precisely that, thousands of applications, both free or for those who want to pay, that to everything you'd want the phone to do. Bundled with the new hardware, I don't see any smartphone around there that could be superior in any way. And well, you might be right about the call plan, but as other articles already pointed out, if you add all the costs together, at the end it's not more expensive than other plans/contracts. Besides, you have the option to buy it from e.g. Italy, where the phone has no contract / sim lock and you can do with it whatever you wish.
The month waiting time is a great idea though, as the new iPhone might be 200 bucks cheaper by then
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#1.2 Posted by Unplugged on 21 May 2008 - 11:02
- (Islander said @ #1.1)Do you live on the moon? The SDK delivers precisely that, thousands of applications, both free or for those who want to pay, that to everything you'd want the phone to do. Bundled with the new hardware, I don't see any smartphone around there that could be superior in any way. And well, you might be right about the call plan, but as other articles already pointed out, if you add all the costs together, at the end it's not more expensive than other plans/contracts. Besides, you have the option to buy it from e.g. Italy, where the phone has no contract / sim lock and you can do with it whatever you wish.
The month waiting time is a great idea though, as the new iPhone might be 200 bucks cheaper by then
Yeah the SDK is a little too late thats the problem and has always been the problem with the iPhone Apple keep people waiting for features that should have been included since the outset. -
#1.3 Posted by Chicane-UK on 21 May 2008 - 11:32
- Thanks but ill prob wait an extra month and buy a decent smartphone current to the times with an OS I can do as I please with and not have to hack about. Oh and it will cost me practically nothing and ill get a decent contract with it that doesn't give me a 1998 call plan.
You represent about 0.05% of phone users. The rest of us just want a great package that expands our abilities to communicate. The iPhone is superb for that - if you want to watch DivX or install custom apps or something, and you're not prepared to jailbreak it, then the iPhone isn't for you. Simple as that.
And for the record, the call (and SMS) plans in the UK are exceptionally competetive - but I can't speak for anywhere else in the world of course. They launched looking like really poor value for money and I can only assume they were just not getting that many new connections, so had to go back to the drawing board and offer something a bit more realistic! -
#1.4 Posted by Unplugged on 21 May 2008 - 14:42
- (Chicane-UK said @ #1)You represent about 0.05% of phone users. The rest of us just want a great package that expands our abilities to communicate. The iPhone is superb for that - if you want to watch DivX or install custom apps or something, and you're not prepared to jailbreak it, then the iPhone isn't for you. Simple as that.
Apple are marketing this as a Smartphone. Heralding it at Revolutionary while it lacks the core functionality hell even if you compare it to a phone it lacks some of the core functionality of practically every smartphone. It is nothing more than a swish Ipod with a GSM Radio. You find another Smartphone on the market that you even have to contemlate Jail breaking to install your own applications. Not to mention you get pimp slapped by Apple for trying.(Chicane-UK said @ #1)And for the record, the call (and SMS) plans in the UK are exceptionally competetive - but I can't speak for anywhere else in the world of course. They launched looking like really poor value for money and I can only assume they were just not getting that many new connections, so had to go back to the drawing board and offer something a bit more realistic!
Im not surprised I see they have doubled the amount of Minutes and Texts since the initial launch. My mistake......
£35 a month is pretty good until you consider that you had to bend over and part with £300+ in the first place. Take a £35 a month contract out on any network even with included GPRS and you will prob get equal to or around the same amount or calls and texts. What your forgetting is that unless the IPhone costs £900 retail ( it doesn't ) then your getting shafted.
On a £35 18 month contract you will be given approx £4-£500 worth of handset ( R.R.P ) which is a sweetener for the contract. Amazingly if you get a contract without a handset your line rental severely decreases ( I wonder why ). With the iPhone you get no such subsidy in fact part of what the network rapes off you goes straight into Apples coffers and im still amazed they managed this complete turnaround of the basic rules of handset business and not only got so many people eating out of their hands to be a supplier but getting some to spend millions on outdated technology's like Edge because of its lack of 3G support ( what good is shiny unlimited data without some form of high speed connectivity )
If you do the maths
£400 ( as a rough figure ) / 18 = £23 a month.
£35 - £23 = £12 a month ( after subtracting the worth of the phone )
So yes..... I suppose getting ripped off around £22 a month for a phone that lacks basic features like MMS is an awesome deal.
Where do I sign? Ah right yes 02 because that's choice for you right there. I would rather take my £20 a month and buy an iPod touch which is basically the same thing without the poor phone but at least you can have a basic phone on a £15 a month tariff without pretending.
I like yourself don't know how the tariffs work in other countries but I do know Apple collect subsidy's of the networks ( AT&T in the states ) and also are not allowed to subsidise so unless there extremely good tariffs I doubt the siltation is very different. -
#1.5 Posted by plastikaa on 21 May 2008 - 23:03
- The iPhone contracts are not that competitive... as you cant do "deals" on them... my contract is meant to be £35 a month and a £300 phone... I pay £25 a month and thats it... and get over double the calling and texts to what I would recieve on the cheapest iPhone contract. Not sure how you can say something is competitive when over the lifetime of the phone it works out to be over twice as much as something that in my opinion is no better than a select few other phone, also the only feature the current iPhone has that my phone doesnt I deem interesting is Wifi... but as I have an internet connection on a phone thats not out of date technology means I can download at 7.2mbps anywhere and not just wifi spots. - Okay the new iPhone will change that now they have realised to go 3G, but the price is still going to be mad
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#2 Posted by +njlouch on 21 May 2008 - 08:21
- We all suspected it, but now it is confirmed: someone very, very close to the 3G iPhone launch has told me that Apple will announce their new model at the WWDC Keynote on June 9th.
Is this what confirmed means? I'd say that it means a rumour still, until an official announcement is made.
But either way, this is good news - a feature that SHOULD have been on the v1 model! -
#2.1 Posted by +Dakkaroth on 21 May 2008 - 12:43
- It was Cara. >>
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#2.2 Posted by +GreyWolfSC on 21 May 2008 - 19:12
- (Dakkaroth said @ #2.1)It was Cara. >>
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#2.3 Posted by +Dakkaroth on 21 May 2008 - 20:38
- (GreyWolfSC said @ #2.2)(Dakkaroth said @ #2.1)It was Cara. >>
Cara is leaking Apple information? Isn't that a no-no?
(it was a joke)
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#3 Posted by x-byte on 21 May 2008 - 08:32
- So now it's actually worth owning? Took them long enough. They do the same for iPhone as their iPods, adding just a little and releasing a whole new modell.
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#4 Posted by bmaher on 21 May 2008 - 09:11
- Yeah, just 3G and a new case doesn't really warrant a new version (especially as the 2.0 firmware will be a free upgrade for existing owners).
I can see networks using the "floating pricing" to their advantage and making people cough up more for their contracts.
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#5 Posted by - Kaboose - on 21 May 2008 - 09:17
- can this be bought from an applestore and then the user can choose their own network?
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#5.1 Posted by LipSmacker on 21 May 2008 - 11:43
- Nope. AT&T only
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#7 Posted by Osiris on 21 May 2008 - 10:45
- I must say I still think the Windows Mobile operating is superior, due to its broad customisations, wide support base, and long history of development. Virtually any application you can imagine is out there. That being said after being fortunate enough to get a good play wtih an iphone recently, I must say the 3.5" of goodness is amazing. As long as I can get push mail for work happening on the 3G/2.0 version im think for the first time in 6 years I might have a non WinMo phone.
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#7.1 Posted by +TCLN Ryster on 21 May 2008 - 15:03
- Yeah Windows Mobile 6 Professional is nice, but the user interface isn't. Microsoft just haven't quite got to grips with touchscreen technology yet, and most of the interface on a WM6 phone isn't very touch friendly, instead forcing you to pull out the stylus and use that instead. This is where the iPhone excels. Unfortunately though the downsides of the iPhone far exceed the good points in my opinion.
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#8 Posted by RedHook on 21 May 2008 - 10:57
- Does this mean a software upgrade for the original Iphone as well?
MMS?
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#9 Posted by +J400uk on 21 May 2008 - 11:12
- Sorry but its not comfirmed until Apple officialy says, so this article is mis-leading and just simply more speculation and rumors.
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#10 Posted by funciona on 21 May 2008 - 11:55
- Is 3G the only addition?
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#10.1 Posted by +M2Ys4U on 21 May 2008 - 15:43
- No, There's a software update too, allowing 3rd party programs without jailbreaking.
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#11 Posted by
Cara on 21 May 2008 - 15:02
- I love how it was confirmed...by someone's brother's uncle's cousin's former roommate. That is confirmed alright, confirmed as a RUMOR.
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#11.1 Posted by Jaron on 21 May 2008 - 23:17
- I remember reading a Wired(?) article about the fierce competition between gizmodo and engadget. This is their bread and butter. They takes it very seriously.
So when they say it's confirmed, they have good source. Just can't give out any name or that person would get in trouble.
http://www.wired.com/entertainment/theweb/.../mf_gadgetblogs
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#12 Posted by Gabe3 on 21 May 2008 - 17:24
- I thought this release is mainly for european users because they all have 3G networks over there. ahh I don't know what I'm talking about. they should add GPS, otherwise I'll just stick with my iphone.
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#13 Posted by emzino on 21 May 2008 - 17:59
- Ok apart from adding 3G, is there any other changes small or major? E.g. a better camera or video recording functionality etc etc. How about a longer battery life?
Or have those kind of details not been released yet...
In Spain, for example, the 3G iPhone will be available for sale at the June 18th grand opening of Telefonica's megastore—an Apple Store-like shop located in the company's historical building in Madrid's Gran Vía— with nationwide availability the next day or after a few hours. The other European countries with iPhone availability will have similar launch schedules.
According to another source involved in the launch, the 3G iPhone will no longer be available at a fixed price point—at least in some countries, and its launch will also bring new sales policies, although these have not been completely specified yet.