Stardock has launched their new digital platform today called Impulse. The new platform is designed to allow users to associate PC games, applications, and utilities with a unified account that users can then update and install software from.

The Impulse store has gained considerable support even at the initial launch with such heavy weights as Corel, AMD, Epic, THQ, Gas Powered Games, Hot Head Games, Microsoft and many others expressing support for the platform.

"Impulse is, by far, the most advanced digital distribution platform we've seen, and we're extremely excited to take advantage of the features of Impulse Reactor," said Chris Taylor, CEO of Gas Powered Games. "It's easy to use, has awesome capabilities for developers, and it doesn't tie consumers to a single digital distribution platform."

According to the Impulse white paper, Impulse includes a number of notable features such as a high degree of user rights providing users seamless support for running games either online or offline, refunding of digital purchases if users run into technical issues, an integrated dock, support for automated third-party submissions, mod support, game rankings, multiplayer match making, vast community features and more.

Stardock has indicated that Impulse is being released in three phases. Today marks the initial launch with the bulk of the features available. A second phase will be in late August in which the platform SDK, Impulse Reactor, will be made available to developers, and a third phase in early 2009.

Impulse also includes third-party distribution support in which companies and websites can distribute branded versions of Impulse. Affiliates then receive a portion of any purchases made by the user on Impulse.

Neowin.net has signed on to the exclusive pilot program in the form of Neowin Impulse.

Download: Neowin Impulse
View: Impulse White Paper
Link: Impulse Website
Link: Impulse Press Release



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Quote this comment Reply to this comment #1 Posted by Smethead on 17 Jun 2008 - 20:30
So from what I've read, this is a bit like Steam, but also for applications?
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #2 Posted by OblivionStalker on 17 Jun 2008 - 20:48
Afaik, for applications by Stardock.
Quote this comment #2.1 Posted by +TCLN Ryster on 17 Jun 2008 - 22:01
(OblivionStalker said @ #2)
Afaik, for applications by Stardock.

Did you read the article?

The Impulse store has gained considerable support even at the initial launch with such heavy weights as Corel, AMD, Epic, THQ, Gas Powered Games, Hot Head Games, Microsoft and many others expressing support for the platform.
(5 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #3 Posted by theyarecomingforyou on 17 Jun 2008 - 20:49
It crashed when I first tried to create an account. It's also annoying that the password must be 8-12 characters, as the passwords I generally use are shorter. Then when I went to add UT3 it didn't work. Not a great start. Now I can't even login, though I understand that there are usually problems with the launch of any online system.
Quote this comment #3.1 Posted by theyarecomingforyou on 17 Jun 2008 - 21:22
The UT3 error I get is:

The registration you have entered is invalid. Please check your selected product, email address and serial number, then try again. (ref: 2)
Quote this comment #3.2 Posted by Frogboy on 17 Jun 2008 - 21:30
Right now, existing Unreal users can't be associated with their Impulse account. We're talking to Epic to integrate their users into Impulse.
Quote this comment #3.3 Posted by theyarecomingforyou on 17 Jun 2008 - 22:28
Ah. That's disappointing, as it basically means I have no reason to use the program at the moment. I'll stick with Steam for now but I'll check back in 6 months or so to see how things have developed.
Quote this comment #3.4 Posted by Frogboy on 18 Jun 2008 - 00:10
(theyarecomingforyou said @ #3.3)
Ah. That's disappointing, as it basically means I have no reason to use the program at the moment. I'll stick with Steam for now but I'll check back in 6 months or so to see how things have developed.


Yea we're talking to Eopic right now. We just got the games up there literally in the last 24 hours.

As for using Impulse, you only play games? In the long term, the biggest benefit is the concept of tying licenses to your account. There's a lot of software out there too. Plus, did you try the dock?
Quote this comment #3.5 Posted by theyarecomingforyou on 18 Jun 2008 - 02:50
I don't only play games, though that's one of the best excuses to get me to try it out. I had a quick look at what other software I generally use but the option to add Office and Nero registrations wasn't there, which basically means I'd only be using it for novelty value. I couldn't even see free software like Firefox available. I mean, if it could automatically install Firefox and apply all my settings, bookmarks and extensions then that would be great. I'm not sure if the plan was to remember preferences and such as well but that would be really helpful.

I tried the dock but with autohide you have to click and there's only a tiny area to aim for - without autohide it's too intrusive. The potential is there and I like the idea but it's not for me just yet.
(3 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #4 Posted by Lant on 17 Jun 2008 - 20:53
This is definitely a nice replacement to SDC
Quote this comment #4.1 Posted by +TCLN Ryster on 17 Jun 2008 - 22:02
So thats what this is then, just a new version of Stardock Central with a shinier look and wider support from other developers/publishers?
Quote this comment #4.2 Posted by +Island Dog on 17 Jun 2008 - 22:55
Impulse is the replacement for Stardock Central, although Stardock Central isn't being discontinued for a while. While it shares the basic functionality such as downloading, etc., it offers a much more especially in the gaming and community areas.

This is also the first phase of the launch, there will be some significant updates in the future.

Quote this comment #4.3 Posted by +TCLN Ryster on 17 Jun 2008 - 22:57
Yeah, so I've been reading. I'm especially excited by the prospect of saved games for future titles being stored to an online virtual store. I really hate the long process of backing up all my saved games each time I format and rebuild my PC (usually a couple of times a year).
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #5 Posted by InsaneNutter on 17 Jun 2008 - 20:53
When i click the store button I get “Navigation to the webpage was cancelled”



Also when adding games I don’t see how it’s possible to add Unreal Tournament as the game doesn’t even use a serial numbers.
Quote this comment #5.1 Posted by Frogboy on 17 Jun 2008 - 21:26
Existing retail copies of Unreal Tournament don't have serials so there's no way to support them. But newer ones do as well as ones on Impulse.
Quote this comment #5.2 Posted by InsaneNutter on 17 Jun 2008 - 22:08
(Frogboy said @ #5.1)
Existing retail copies of Unreal Tournament don't have serials so there's no way to support them. But newer ones do as well as ones on Impulse.


Fair enough then, I didn’t even think UT was sold anymore!
It’s looking promising, Its good to see some big names like Epic have already signed up for this.
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #6 Posted by +rm20010 on 17 Jun 2008 - 21:48
Will installing Impulse overwrite Stardock Central?
Quote this comment #6.1 Posted by ghos on 17 Jun 2008 - 22:16
No it is a separate program, but most of the features that SDC has are in Impulse (aside from the skin browser).
Its really a nice program.
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #7 Posted by on 01 Jan 1970 - 00:00
Quote this comment #7.1 Posted by +TCLN Ryster on 17 Jun 2008 - 22:03
(aarste said @ #7)
its a shame its stardock


Thank you for that baseless flamebait post.

Stardock make some awesome products.
Quote this comment #7.2 Posted by +Island Dog on 17 Jun 2008 - 22:52
Why is it a "shame"? It's a great product maybe you should try it.
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #8 Posted by +TCLN Ryster on 17 Jun 2008 - 22:08

You really need to make it clearer that the installer needs to download additional components from the net. At the moment it doesn't and it's deceiving.

This page doesn't even mention downloading or the internet and I just guess thats what it's doing based on the numbers (which I assume are bytes counting up) and the fact my router's activity level just skyrocketed.
Quote this comment #8.1 Posted by GEIST on 17 Jun 2008 - 23:13
(TCLN Ryster said @ #
You really need to make it clearer that the installer needs to download additional components from the net. At the moment it doesn't and it's deceiving.

This page doesn't even mention downloading or the internet and I just guess thats what it's doing based on the numbers (which I assume are bytes counting up) and the fact my router's activity level just skyrocketed.


Nice one, Captain Obvious. Who would have thought this online content distribution software would connect to and download content from the web?!
Quote this comment #8.2 Posted by +TCLN Ryster on 17 Jun 2008 - 23:58
(GEIST said @ #8.1)
Nice one, Captain Obvious. Who would have thought this online content distribution software would connect to and download content from the web?!

Less of the unwarranted sarcasm and verbal abuse please, Leiutenant Miss-The-Point-Entirely.

I was referring to the installer not the software itself. The installer is not a "online content distribution" program. When you download an installer, it should clearly tell you if it requires additional information from the net to install. It should also make it clear what it's actually doing at the time. The screenshot I posted shows the installer saying it is installing, it doesn't even mention the fact that it's downloading LOTS of extra stuff from the net at the time.
(8 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #9 Posted by MMaster23 on 17 Jun 2008 - 22:14
Looks like the worst Steam ripoff ever... Also .. nice going guys .. copy pasting the WHS UI :\

Stardock owns Neowin ... sorry let me correct that .. Stardock owns Stardock-advertisement-platform Neowin
Quote this comment #9.1 Posted by +Island Dog on 17 Jun 2008 - 22:51
So I take it you haven't tried it?
Quote this comment #9.2 Posted by +TCLN Ryster on 17 Jun 2008 - 22:59
I was thinking the same thing Island Dog. I've only scratched the surface of it so far, but it seems like it has far more potential than steam. The interface is also alot more user friendly and it certainly looks a lot nicer than Steam
Quote this comment #9.3 Posted by +rm20010 on 17 Jun 2008 - 23:13
Steam has a very no-frills UI that serves its purpose well.

That being said, Impulse's UI is also very nice. You can disable the WB-powered skin if you like.
Quote this comment #9.4 Posted by sorlag on 18 Jun 2008 - 03:25
Jeah, way too much stardockish things on neowin. seems they own neowin more and more.
Quote this comment #9.5 Posted by +TCLN Ryster on 18 Jun 2008 - 11:55
(sorlag said @ #9.4)
Jeah, way too much stardockish things on neowin. seems they own neowin more and more.

What a silly statement. Stardock products should be ignored by Neowin instead then I take it? How about we ignore all Microsoft products too.
Quote this comment #9.6 Posted by Mascrin on 18 Jun 2008 - 16:17
(sorlag said @ #9.4)
Jeah, way too much stardockish things on neowin. seems they own neowin more and more.


Right.. because there was some news item about Stardock what? 3 months ago?

I seem to recall a Valve news item here as a sticky for a full week!
Quote this comment #9.7 Posted by +Dakkaroth on 18 Jun 2008 - 17:10
I'd like to see some competition with Steam. Seems that it's the only thing available, thus the only thing we can really use.
Quote this comment #9.8 Posted by EnzoFX on 18 Jun 2008 - 19:27
(sorlag said @ #9.4)
Jeah, way too much stardockish things on neowin. seems they own neowin more and more.

They have every right to advertise it, Stardock is a great company and if anything, deserves more attention
(5 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #10 Posted by digitalsoft on 17 Jun 2008 - 22:17
This isnt really relivant to the news posting but that branding kills me! What a sh*t logo!
Quote this comment #10.1 Posted by +TCLN Ryster on 17 Jun 2008 - 23:02
Which one? Neowin? Stardock? or Impulse?

I agree the Stardock logo isn't that impressive, and the Neowin Logo is almost as old as the internet itself, but the Impulse logo is lovely.
Quote this comment #10.2 Posted by digitalsoft on 18 Jun 2008 - 10:32
(TCLN Ryster said @ #10.1)
Which one? Neowin? Stardock? or Impulse?

I agree the Stardock logo isn't that impressive, and the Neowin Logo is almost as old as the internet itself, but the Impulse logo is lovely.


The impulse one... just makes the application look cheap.
Quote this comment #10.3 Posted by +TCLN Ryster on 18 Jun 2008 - 11:56
A matter of opinion I guess, but I like it.
Quote this comment #10.4 Posted by +Dakkaroth on 18 Jun 2008 - 17:09
I like it. :o
Quote this comment #10.5 Posted by EnzoFX on 18 Jun 2008 - 19:29
(digitalsoft said @ #10)
This isnt really relivant to the news posting but that branding kills me! What a sh*t logo!

I too don't really like it
It's very Vista-windows like, and a bit too dark for my taste. I think it should be more minimal, more web 2.0ish, but what the hell does that mean =P
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #11 Posted by Xerxes on 17 Jun 2008 - 23:06
I'll have to give it a go when I get home tonight I really like Steam, so naturally this has gotten my interest as well
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #12 Posted by GEIST on 17 Jun 2008 - 23:16
I like.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #13 Posted by +rm20010 on 17 Jun 2008 - 23:17
It's giving me an update notice for LogonStudio Vista and SkinStudio Pro (I have free) yet I can't seem to install them?
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #14 Posted by +Island Dog on 17 Jun 2008 - 23:28
If you have any issues or comments, here is the official feedback thread.

http://forums.impulsedriven.com/315271



(3 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #15 Posted by Citrusleak on 17 Jun 2008 - 23:49
Well, I downloaded it and then ended up getting rid of it because when I put in serials from products I bought that were supported, it said that it "only supports keys bought from impulse" or something like that. I really wanted this to work so nice like Steam, but for other apps, but it just didn't cut it.
Quote this comment #15.1 Posted by +TCLN Ryster on 18 Jun 2008 - 00:03
If you read the release notes and the Impulse website, it clearly says that it only supports Stardock products and stuff bought from Impulse in this first stage. They are currently working with content providers to allow you to input your current serials from CD/DVD games so you never have to use the CD/DVD ever again and you can just download the game from Impulse each time you need to install it.

Which sounds very cool, as having a unified system for downloading/installing/updating games on the PC is something I've been hoping for for ages.
Quote this comment #15.2 Posted by kev64 on 18 Jun 2008 - 01:26
(TCLN Ryster said @ #15.1)
They are currently working with content providers to allow you to input your current serials from CD/DVD games so you never have to use the CD/DVD ever again and you can just download the game from Impulse each time you need to install it..

That would be great because my DVD Drive has stopped working.
Quote this comment #15.3 Posted by EnzoFX on 18 Jun 2008 - 19:33
(TCLN Ryster said @ #15.1)
If you read the release notes and the Impulse website, it clearly says that it only supports Stardock products and stuff bought from Impulse in this first stage. They are currently working with content providers to allow you to input your current serials from CD/DVD games so you never have to use the CD/DVD ever again and you can just download the game from Impulse each time you need to install it.

Which sounds very cool, as having a unified system for downloading/installing/updating games on the PC is something I've been hoping for for ages.


Right, quite an undertaking by Stardock, I mean, It just sounds overwhelming IMO, but what do I know. Also, Valve did say they may offer apps soon, so that's great for competition, but that's different from working with other companies to have CURRENT products supported
(7 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #16 Posted by King Mustard on 18 Jun 2008 - 01:23
I have Painkiller and the entered key is not recognized. Not a good start.

Last edited by King Mustard on 18 Jun 2008 - 01:33
Quote this comment #16.1 Posted by Frogboy on 18 Jun 2008 - 02:17
(King Mustard said @ #16)
I have Painkiller and the entered key is not recognized. Not a good start.


Did you get Painkiller from Stardock/TotalGaming.net?

Impulse doesn't automatically let people use serial #s on third party games unless the publisher/developer has signed on to have Impulse take care of their existing customers.
Quote this comment #16.2 Posted by theyarecomingforyou on 18 Jun 2008 - 02:56
That's fine, but it would be nice if it was made clear that that's the case. I too was under the impression that you could simply enter your existing serials and be on your way.
Quote this comment #16.3 Posted by Frogboy on 18 Jun 2008 - 02:58
(theyarecomingforyou said @ #16.2)
That's fine, but it would be nice if it was made clear that that's the case. I too was under the impression that you could simply enter your existing serials and be on your way.


I agree, it should be more clear.
Quote this comment #16.4 Posted by cykosis on 18 Jun 2008 - 16:02
(King Mustard said @ #16)
I have Painkiller and the entered key is not recognized. Not a good start.


In that case, it was very misleading, Frogboy, when you said:

"Precisely.

Impulse doesn't care where you got the game. As long as your account has a particular piece of software associated with it, you can re-download it via Impulse regardless of where you bought it.

For example, imagine if you bought Unreal Tournament from Steam. You could, assuming Epic signed on for this, download and update Unreal Tournmanet via Impulse.

That's because Impulse is designed first and foremost to be a platform and not a store."

What you should have said is that "Just because you have a game/app that we sell doesn't mean that you can register it with us".

This is very disappointing, and removes one of the only driving features of Impulse, IMO.
Quote this comment #16.5 Posted by Mascrin on 18 Jun 2008 - 16:19
(cykosis said @ #16.4)
(King Mustard said @ #16)
I have Painkiller and the entered key is not recognized. Not a good start.


In that case, it was very misleading, Frogboy, when you said:

"Precisely.

Impulse doesn't care where you got the game. As long as your account has a particular piece of software associated with it, you can re-download it via Impulse regardless of where you bought it.

For example, imagine if you bought Unreal Tournament from Steam. You could, assuming Epic signed on for this, download and update Unreal Tournmanet via Impulse.

That's because Impulse is designed first and foremost to be a platform and not a store."

What you should have said is that "Just because you have a game/app that we sell doesn't mean that you can register it with us".

This is very disappointing, and removes one of the only driving features of Impulse, IMO.


What? Because Impulse on its first day doesn't have a feature that no other program in the world supports? Better tell Valve and Direct2Drive and everyone else to give it up.
Quote this comment #16.6 Posted by cykosis on 18 Jun 2008 - 16:36
(Mascrin said @ #16.5)
What? Because Impulse on its first day doesn't have a feature that no other program in the world supports? Better tell Valve and Direct2Drive and everyone else to give it up.


Right, that's exactly what I said..... I guess a fanboy hears what they want to hear.

Anyways, ignoring that, I'll get back to the point where the OP said "Hey, I tried to register this product that you sell, but now you say I have to buy it from you to do it.. Even though you said that you didn't care where I got it."

There. Now we're back on track.
Quote this comment #16.7 Posted by +TCLN Ryster on 22 Jun 2008 - 11:29
(cykosis said @ #16.6)
(Mascrin said @ #16.5)
What? Because Impulse on its first day doesn't have a feature that no other program in the world supports? Better tell Valve and Direct2Drive and everyone else to give it up.


Right, that's exactly what I said..... I guess a fanboy hears what they want to hear.

Anyways, ignoring that, I'll get back to the point where the OP said "Hey, I tried to register this product that you sell, but now you say I have to buy it from you to do it.. Even though you said that you didn't care where I got it."

There. Now we're back on track.

The "no matter where you bought it" part is coming. Just because those facilities are not yet in place, doesn't mean Frogboy's statement was misleading. Granted he should perhaps have made it more clear that the feature being described was "coming soon" rather than an existing feature.
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #17 Posted by Don Matteo on 18 Jun 2008 - 01:41
Is there anything special about the neowin version other than the logo?
Quote this comment #17.1 Posted by theyarecomingforyou on 18 Jun 2008 - 02:54
Neowin is meant to make a percentage on sales made through Impulse, or at least that's how I understand it.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #18 Posted by virtorio on 18 Jun 2008 - 02:17
Hmm seems I can buy UTIII though here for $40 NZ less than I can in a retail store.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #19 Posted by DustRider on 18 Jun 2008 - 02:40
Let me get this straight...pay for downloading games?

Now that's exciting
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #20 Posted by Doli on 18 Jun 2008 - 03:44
Game wise I just dont see anything new that I like or cant find on Steam. Non-game wise, the programs seem a bit bland, like Windows Marketplace bland. Just have to see what other programs come out.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #21 Posted by SimNet on 18 Jun 2008 - 03:54
i dont know why but..

stardock just has that 'bloatware' rep for me for some reason, and i hate the logo and the name.

esp the word dock
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #22 Posted by -Hiroshi- on 18 Jun 2008 - 03:54
Nice..
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #23 Posted by SimNet on 18 Jun 2008 - 03:58
I think stardock needs a new logo... Many would agree.
Quote this comment #23.1 Posted by +TCLN Ryster on 18 Jun 2008 - 11:58
Agreed.
(3 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #24 Posted by +Recon415 on 18 Jun 2008 - 04:29
Ehh? Mostly a Steam ripoff, save your time and bandwidth and don't get this if you intend to use it for games. Steam has better deals, easier interface, and is more refined.
There are many alternative programs (like Steam) that are much better and more worth your time. To me, this was a sheer disappointment...

(does StarDock own Neowin now or something?)



*recon415 out.
Quote this comment #24.1 Posted by +TCLN Ryster on 18 Jun 2008 - 12:00
Easier interface? I think that's a matter of familiarity. I don't use Steam very much, only to launch Team Fortress 2, but the Impulse interface is far more user friendly in my opinion. As for Steam being more refined, well refinements come with time. This product has been out for what, like a day? Steam has been out for years.

And whos to say you have to use one or the other? Surely theres room for both.
Quote this comment #24.2 Posted by Mascrin on 18 Jun 2008 - 16:21
Steam has a better interface? More refined? What planet have you been living on? Unless you have a Valve game, Steam is little more than a glorified download manager. And it's butt ugly to boot and takes half a minute to load.
Quote this comment #24.3 Posted by +Dakkaroth on 18 Jun 2008 - 17:16
Let us not forget Steam's early days where it was just utter hell to use... :\
(3 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #25 Posted by stifler6478 on 18 Jun 2008 - 04:57
I don't understand how you can be so narrow-minded to think that Neowin putting their logo on one version of Impulse (i.e. there is a Neowin-less version, and the possibility for other versions sporting other sites' logos), which is a Stardock product, not a Neowin product, and making revenue off of it means Stardock owns them.

Some of you are ridiculous.

I'd love to try it out, but as it is, I don't really have any use for it, so I'm going to have to pass on this, but it looks promising.

-Spenser
Quote this comment #25.1 Posted by FloatingFatMan on 18 Jun 2008 - 07:34
(stifler6478 said @ #25)
I don't understand how you can be so narrow-minded to think that Neowin putting their logo on one version of Impulse (i.e. there is a Neowin-less version, and the possibility for other versions sporting other sites' logos), which is a Stardock product, not a Neowin product, and making revenue off of it means Stardock owns them.

Some of you are ridiculous.


Actually, Stardock DO own a stake in Neowin. I think it's about 40%? It's not a controlling stake, and as far as I know, they don't try to influence the running of Neowin at all, but they DO own a stake in it.
Quote this comment #25.2 Posted by stifler6478 on 18 Jun 2008 - 13:23
(FloatingFatMan said @ #25.1)
(stifler6478 said @ #25)
I don't understand how you can be so narrow-minded to think that Neowin putting their logo on one version of Impulse (i.e. there is a Neowin-less version, and the possibility for other versions sporting other sites' logos), which is a Stardock product, not a Neowin product, and making revenue off of it means Stardock owns them.

Some of you are ridiculous.


Actually, Stardock DO own a stake in Neowin. I think it's about 40%? It's not a controlling stake, and as far as I know, they don't try to influence the running of Neowin at all, but they DO own a stake in it.


Yes I know, but that's not what everyone is saying or implying on this page.

-Spenser
Quote this comment #25.3 Posted by +TCLN Ryster on 22 Jun 2008 - 11:34
Well now the neowin page has a permanent (and prominent) advertisement for Impulse on their front page.

It's clear and hard to deny that Stardock and Neowin are affiliated, they could possibly even be classified as extensions of each other. However, who cares? Both are great organisations and I have no problem with it.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #26 Posted by T.W. on 18 Jun 2008 - 05:23
Looks better than steam.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #27 Posted by +Sam Symons Live on 18 Jun 2008 - 06:50
I like it. Nice work, Stardock.
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #28 Posted by tsupersonic on 18 Jun 2008 - 13:46
Great, a software manager. Looks like another useless program from the Stardock corporation.

Quote this comment #28.1 Posted by +Island Dog on 18 Jun 2008 - 18:13
Have you tried it? I'd sure like to hear what you think would be "useful".
(6 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #29 Posted by phiberoptik on 18 Jun 2008 - 13:47
This entire thread seems to be normal users going.. "Ahh well I don't like this, blah blah" or "I like xyz better because of"

And then subscribers/stardock reps trying to "flip" the comments to "matter of opinion" or "well I like it"

It actually makes me upset that you can tell that some of the comments are just said because that person is associated with the company, and they probably feel obligated to put a positive spin on things all the time, in the name of money. I'm not saying they aren't being honest.

But when someone says "Blah blah sucks, the interface needs blah blah" don't reply "Oh, well I think blah blah is great, and it's better then anything in the universe".

Say "Wow, you may have a point, person who puts money in my pocket. I will forward that to our idea/development team for further research and we might make a change based on feedback"

It's actually kind of sad to read the posts, because it shows you how commercial and slowly integrated Neowin is getting with Stardock.

Like it or not, every small thing that changes is just a part of the larger change. And at the rate it's going here, this place will eventually sell out. (If it hasn't already)
Quote this comment #29.1 Posted by Mascrin on 18 Jun 2008 - 16:25
Right.... I like that. "Normal users" is the term you use? On other websites, they're called trolls.

Say "Wow, you may have a point, person who puts money in my pocket. I will forward that to our idea/development team for further research and we might make a change based on feedback"


The subscribers are the ones who put money in Neowin's pocket and they seem to like it. How much money have you paid the Neowin? Probably about the same as I have: zero.

All I've seen is a bunch of Steam fanboyism and usual stardock bashing.

So not being a hater means being a "sell out". How sad for you.
Quote this comment #29.2 Posted by phiberoptik on 18 Jun 2008 - 18:33
(Mascrin said @ #29.1)
Right.... I like that. "Normal users" is the term you use? On other websites, they're called trolls.

Say "Wow, you may have a point, person who puts money in my pocket. I will forward that to our idea/development team for further research and we might make a change based on feedback"


The subscribers are the ones who put money in Neowin's pocket and they seem to like it. How much money have you paid the Neowin? Probably about the same as I have: zero.

All I've seen is a bunch of Steam fanboyism and usual stardock bashing.

So not being a hater means being a "sell out". How sad for you.


Wait, what?... Did you just say that all the "Normal users" are trolls?

And because I stated my opinion or view, I am a sell out? Sad for me? What are you talking about.... wow......
Quote this comment #29.3 Posted by Frogboy on 18 Jun 2008 - 19:09
(phiberoptik said @ #29.2)
(Mascrin said @ #29.1)
Right.... I like that. "Normal users" is the term you use? On other websites, they're called trolls.

Say "Wow, you may have a point, person who puts money in my pocket. I will forward that to our idea/development team for further research and we might make a change based on feedback"


The subscribers are the ones who put money in Neowin's pocket and they seem to like it. How much money have you paid the Neowin? Probably about the same as I have: zero.

All I've seen is a bunch of Steam fanboyism and usual stardock bashing.

So not being a hater means being a "sell out". How sad for you.


Wait, what?... Did you just say that all the "Normal users" are trolls?

And because I stated my opinion or view, I am a sell out? Sad for me? What are you talking about.... wow......


From what I read, you were the one who basically divided Neowin into two groups: subscribers who were mindlessly in favor of Impulse or Stardock and "normal people" who were the ones hostile. You then claimed that Neowin was selling out though I'm not sure on what basis you made that claim.
Quote this comment #29.4 Posted by +TCLN Ryster on 22 Jun 2008 - 11:38
(Frogboy said @ #29.3)
(phiberoptik said @ #29.2)
(Mascrin said @ #29.1)
Right.... I like that. "Normal users" is the term you use? On other websites, they're called trolls.

Say "Wow, you may have a point, person who puts money in my pocket. I will forward that to our idea/development team for further research and we might make a change based on feedback"


The subscribers are the ones who put money in Neowin's pocket and they seem to like it. How much money have you paid the Neowin? Probably about the same as I have: zero.

All I've seen is a bunch of Steam fanboyism and usual stardock bashing.

So not being a hater means being a "sell out". How sad for you.


Wait, what?... Did you just say that all the "Normal users" are trolls?

And because I stated my opinion or view, I am a sell out? Sad for me? What are you talking about.... wow......


From what I read, you were the one who basically divided Neowin into two groups: subscribers who were mindlessly in favor of Impulse or Stardock and "normal people" who were the ones hostile. You then claimed that Neowin was selling out though I'm not sure on what basis you made that claim.

And can I just say that I subscribe to neowin because I like neowin and want to support it. I have no vested interest in Stardock or any Stardock products. I have said what I have said because I happen to like the concept and current implementation of Impulse. Is it so hard to believe that there might be an other side to the argument of those trashing it?
Quote this comment #29.5 Posted by Davebo on 22 Jun 2008 - 14:43
(phiberoptik said @ #29)
This entire thread seems to be normal users going.. "Ahh well I don't like this, blah blah" or "I like xyz better because of"

And then subscribers/stardock reps trying to "flip" the comments to "matter of opinion" or "well I like it"

It actually makes me upset that you can tell that some of the comments are just said because that person is associated with the company, and they probably feel obligated to put a positive spin on things all the time, in the name of money. I'm not saying they aren't being honest.

But when someone says "Blah blah sucks, the interface needs blah blah" don't reply "Oh, well I think blah blah is great, and it's better then anything in the universe".

Say "Wow, you may have a point, person who puts money in my pocket. I will forward that to our idea/development team for further research and we might make a change based on feedback"

It's actually kind of sad to read the posts, because it shows you how commercial and slowly integrated Neowin is getting with Stardock.

Like it or not, every small thing that changes is just a part of the larger change. And at the rate it's going here, this place will eventually sell out. (If it hasn't already)


Amen.

And already here's Brad and his well orchestrated crew. Question, Brad, how many other mainstream tech/news sites have this plastered on their front pages today? Any other than your pet sites?
Quote this comment #29.6 Posted by Frogboy on 23 Jun 2008 - 04:06
[quote=Davebo said,#29.5][quote=phiberoptik said,#29]

And already here's Brad and his well orchestrated crew. Question, Brad, how many other mainstream tech/news sites have this plastered on their front pages today? Any other than your pet sites?[/quote]

Ars Technica, Betanews, CNET, IGN, 1Up, Next Generation, Shack News, to name a few.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3168350
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=c...57&Itemid=2
http://newsblaze.com/story/200806171023040...w/topstory.html
http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars...l-store-impulse
http://www.gamershell.com/news_53114.html
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53189

Who's biased again?





(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #30 Posted by TechMedik on 18 Jun 2008 - 16:03
Let's have a comment from some who isn't a subscriber. Yes I like impulse. I don't use the games but I use it for the majority of object desktop products and it works great. I plan on using it for the political machine game within a day or two and I can say that is a great game.

Let's be honest here, raise your hand for those that **** on this. If your under 18 please stand and raise your hand. Honestly its gotten to the point that nothing can be posted here without anyone getting into a ****ing contest.
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