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The thing is even though they are using mac hardware most of them still use windows xp on them. The article itself said this.

I challenge the accuracy of that so-called survey. My company is extremely tech-centric so I deal with MANY different companies on a daily basis. We have client companies well over 1,000 and I can count on one hand the number who have any Apple hardware (aside from iPods and iPhones of course.)

Unless this DiDio (from God?) person is calling iPods Macs?

This sounds just like Lexmark and their claim that something like 90% of the Top 400 companies use Lexmark.

What it probably means in practise is that those companies have a single Lexmark device (or Mac) somewhere in their organisation. Essentially it means nothing.

there is a surveying term where the sampler happens to sample data from places where it makes their survey reflect a strong correlation for something (concentrated survey? can't recall)

Surveys have to be the worse thing to use... especially when you have such a small sample group

lol yeh right. Condering that the majority of computers are at businesses, and this survey claims that 80% of businesses run mac.

So that should mean at the very least, 40-50% of the OS market share would be macs? But its like um 8%?

We certainly have one in our office.

"Then we were talking about onesies and twosies,"

riiiiiight, was this a playschool survey?

I use one at work and I am the only one who does - the rest use Thinkpads

Did anyone notice that the topic says "8 in 10" i.e. 80% and yet the article actually states that 8-10% are using Macs?
We have some Macs in our workplace, they store fonts for the font server... and otherwise never get used.
The Mac cubes are the perfect size/shape for doorstops if you have some.

Survey: 1 in 1 businesses use computers.*

Survey: 1 in 1 businesses now employ humans.

Survey: 1 in 1.4 businesses exist for profit.


*applicable in developed countries only

ROFL, gotta love people playing a numbers game. I can play that too. Here in NW Florida, 99% of the computer stores (including mine) don't deal/sell/buy/touch/speak Apple anything. It's practically a naughty word to even mention Apple/Mac around here. [You Apple zealots would say we simply are not enlightened people, right??] I deal with a large # of companies around here and not a single one uses Apple/Mac products. I'd estimate that *maybe* 1-5% of the companies here have a Apple product. So basically all the numbers thrown around in this article mean squat to us down here. I'll lay down good odds that Apple tries to take this article, glam it up as only Apple can do (translation, spin it like a merry-go-round), and use it in some form of ad. LOL

We use Macs at my work but only for the Marketing department. For some reason they find Macs easier to use for graphics. Other than that, we are all Windows.

Horse hockey. 8-10% is not 80%.

8 in 10 business means 80%

i guess you meant to put 8 in 100 businesses? its good to proofread

So basically what the article is saying is that enterprise computing does not get Vista because they do not understand how to deploy it (and not because of the Bad Vista Campaign by the likes of RMS who is responsible for most of the anti-Vista headlines on Slashdot and Digg).

Case in point:
"Many of our Windows developers have switched to XP and Vista virtual machines running on Macintosh hardware to circumvent the downtime they experienced with the unreliability -- viruses, spyware, disruptive automatic updates -- of Windows XP running on PCs," one IT manager told DiDio in a follow-up interview.

"All these tools that the Mac [OS X] has, like desktop search [with Spotlight], iChat and Time Machine make a very compelling case to install Mac," she said.

So basically individuals do not understand what UAC is for. Hardware virtualization while faster in magnitude to software solutions is still slow, slower than Vista with all security options turned on. It is almost as if individuals are choosing to run VM just to be "unique" or because they fail to understand what a good virtual desktop manager is for.

Further, Windows Vista has desktop search, Net-Meeting and Shadow Copy. I will give them the fact that iCat is clearly superior to Net Meeting, but Linux users can download external software like Skype (insert a hundred solutions) and be perfectly fine in a a VOIP conference setting. Many of these solutions are free.

80% of companies run Macs, so what. This doesn't mean that these companies use only macs, or that they have more Macs than PCs.

Also "47 percent said that they had Apple hardware in their environments"
I guess the term "apple hardware" could even designate iPods.

Maybe they just thought they meant Apples as in the fruit???



This survey provides little point or use, trying to show increase in use of Apple hardware provides little help for anybody.



For instance in theory what if...

10 companies surveyed... 4 use just windows, 4 use just macs, 1 use both and 1 use no computers. (50% use mac, 50% use windows)
A year later 2 uses just windows, 2 uses just macs and 6 use both. (80% use mac, 80% use windows)

OMG!11!11!!!!! apple are now found in more office environments, but in reality no market share has been gained.

Maybe they hide macs so no one can see them since majority of people here haven't seen macs in business world.

The only thing i really hate is those sensationalist titles given to Apple and Microsoft articles in news media.
Example: this article's title.

The quotes from that woman seems very leaned towards Macs, no matter what one can conclude from such a useless survey.

I think they are including iPods and iPhones in the "Apple hardware" category, which is totally different than talking about Mac computers.

This just in: 8 out of 10 surveys are rigged.

Any company that has a receptionist up front with a computer has at least one Mac, which is usually an iMac.

The company at which I work has about 20 or so Macs. All of them work in design/marketing.

The reason why we buy them macs is because that is what they use at home, so that is what they feel comfortable with.

I have seen first hand a lot of issues when it comes to intergrating them in a mixed network environment (especially AD). it's not that they don't work, it's just that at times certain things are hidden, behave unexectedly or are just flat out confusing. Hell even Entourage (Mac version of Outlook) does not work as well with Exchange as it's Windows counterpart.

If it where up to me I would completely remove them from our environment, Creative Suite 3 works just as well on XP. Actually the Intel based Macs run into so many problems with CS3 that we often have them run it in Rosetta mode..lol. When it came time for an upgrade, I switched some of them to XP SP2 systems to try to wean them off Mac, but they protested, and one of the most used excuse was that everybody involved in design/creative/marketing/etc used Macs because they where under the mistaken belief they do things better and are more stable.

IMHO it's just an image thing. If you are in any kind of field that involves image editing, you use Macs or nobody takes your seriously. Although what does **** me off is these people have been brainwashed into believing Macs are somehow superior to PC. You should see the shock in their face when I tell them they are often times paying a premium for the same hardware PCs use, and an OS that is essentially the same as Linux (yes I know it's not) with a nice GUI (Ubuntu is getting close). IMHO the price premium you pay for a closed platform is BS.

I mean don't get me wrong, I enjoy using them myself, and I do like the look they have, but from my experience they are equivalent to Windows based computers, in terms of usability, stability, functionality. It's just a matter of taste.

Very misleading title.