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Airlink   on 27 June 2008 - 19:29 · 29 comments & 12665 views

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Internet regulators voted to loosen restrictions on internet names, a move that could allow thousands of variations of suffixes beyond the basic .com or .ca. The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) overwhelmingly approved the new guidelines on Thursday in Paris after weeklong meetings. The guidelines represent one of the biggest changes to the internet in its 25-year history.

New names won't begin appearing for several months and ICANN won't be deciding on specific ones. The organization must decide how much the new domain names will cost. The names are expected to cost over $100,000 apiece to help ICANN cover up to $20 million in costs. The new guidelines could allow for domain names that have been requested, and denied by ICANN, for years, such as .xxx for adult websites and .post for postal service websites. Companies with well-known names like eBay, Apple or Google could also end up requesting domain names if the new rules are approved, snatching up names like .ebay, .mac and .goog.

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#1 Gabe3 on 27 Jun 2008 - 19:44
why bother. 100,000 when you can get one for $5
(3 replies) #2 RichardK on 27 Jun 2008 - 19:47
They are referring to TLDs not domain names within the TLD

Like if you wanted .Gabe3 it would cost you $100,000, then you could charge others to have whatever.Gabe3
#2.1 eiboodreyob on 27 Jun 2008 - 20:56
I appreciate your explanation because, to be honest, I didn't understand how the whole thing worked. Who "owns" .com then? Is it the ICANN?
#2.2 Hannes.nz on 27 Jun 2008 - 21:18
(eiboodreyob said @ #2.1)
I appreciate your explanation because, to be honest, I didn't understand how the whole thing worked. Who "owns" .com then? Is it the ICANN?


Verisign owns the .com TLD
#2.3 Kushan on 28 Jun 2008 - 00:25
(Hannes.nz said @ #2.2)
(eiboodreyob said @ #2.1)
I appreciate your explanation because, to be honest, I didn't understand how the whole thing worked. Who "owns" .com then? Is it the ICANN?


Verisign owns the .com TLD


No, they're just in charge of maintaining it. If I recall correctly, this currently lasts until 2012 or something, nearer that time another company may come along and "outbid" Verisign for the privilege.
(1 reply) #3 plastikaa on 27 Jun 2008 - 19:51
oh great... just what we dont need, but I suppose it will make them money

Why cant google - just buy the right to "google" for some money and not bother with the whole top level domain...

Also most people just type what they want into search engines now anyway.... the importance of that brilliant domain is being lost.
#3.1 Unplugged on 30 Jun 2008 - 08:24
they probably will.

Yuo will then end up with http://video.google/ http://images.google/

Etc
#4 Ste on 27 Jun 2008 - 20:18
.neowin anyone? :p
#5 jameswjrose on 27 Jun 2008 - 20:27
While interesting... I'm just not sure if Joe-Average is going to get this. After all .Info and .Biz were decent additions to .com and yet there was not a big move to them. In fact the only one I know of, and use is www.mta.info for the subway/bus lines here in NYC.

But hey, I don't the new top level domains as a bad idea... we'll see.
#6 +vlsi0n on 27 Jun 2008 - 21:47
It might be confusing, i.started.something could be a URL, ending in .something. I wouldn't guess that right away.

I like typing in .com after many of the sites i visit, having to type in .goog or .mac would slow me down because then I can't just hit Ctrl-Enter to finish the URL. Not if these sites are all going to be switching to unique TLDs.. oh well.

And I wonder what the character limit is, typing anything over 4-5 is way too much. I thought URL's were supposed to be short, memorable, and possibly catchy.
#7 Mr Fish on 27 Jun 2008 - 21:52
to help ICANN cover up to $20 million in costs.


Eh? How much? Why?
#8 Marshalus on 27 Jun 2008 - 22:17
How f'ing stupid.
#9 neoxphuse on 27 Jun 2008 - 22:26
The internet is going to become a mess. Keeping it as very little as we can is the better idea.
#10 Zirus on 27 Jun 2008 - 22:46
I guess we can have:

gmail.google.gmail

rofl...

#11 Airlink on 27 Jun 2008 - 23:59
But what I want to know is who will own the .cola TLD? Coke? Pepsi?
Let the new cola wars commence!

And let's not forget .porn, .car, .radio, .paint, .candy, .wire, .tech, .mouse, .carpet, .wood, .air, .fire, .water, .earth, .......
#12 Gally on 28 Jun 2008 - 00:20
^^ Grab as many as you can!!!
(3 replies) #13 Kushan on 28 Jun 2008 - 00:29
The main concern of this is that someone can just create a new TLD, such as .commerce (Yes, I know that's what .com means, but it's still a completely new TLD) and pretty much force all the big companies out there to have to buy their respective domains. So what if it costs $100,000 to create a domain, you could easily charge $1000 for google.commerce, Microsoft.commerce, etc. and be almost guaranteed they'd have to buy it.
It's more or less a legal way to domain squat, except you squat ALL domains in one go. It's a joke.

They should have just created more TLD's as they were needed - I rarely go to .biz, .info, .mobi or .tv domains as it is.
#13.1 +Smigit on 28 Jun 2008 - 00:42
I fail to see why any company would "have" to buy into any of the new TLD's.
#13.2 Kushan on 28 Jun 2008 - 10:47
(Smigit said @ #13.1)
I fail to see why any company would "have" to buy into any of the new TLD's.


What's to stop Microsoft buying google.commerce and pointing it to their own servers?
Even if they got into legal crap over that, whats to stop some malware writer from buying paypal.commerce and harvesting username/passwords? The vast majority of people on the internet today don't know what an SSL certificate is.
#13.3 +Smigit on 28 Jun 2008 - 16:58
(Kushan said @ #13.2)
(Smigit said @ #13.1)
I fail to see why any company would "have" to buy into any of the new TLD's.


What's to stop Microsoft buying google.commerce and pointing it to their own servers?
Even if they got into legal crap over that, whats to stop some malware writer from buying paypal.commerce and harvesting username/passwords? The vast majority of people on the internet today don't know what an SSL certificate is.
and so what if they did? I'm sure most users can spot the difference between Microsoft.com and microsoft.commerce. Hell I doubt 90% of web users even know "com" stands for commerce to begin with.

Besides, theres already enough top level TLD's that this could be an issue anyway and I really can't think of any examples where it has been besides a few small incidents where people have had to hand domains over for trademark reasons.

I really don't see the issue and theres really no reason a company needs every single combination of <company><dot><something>. Given how uncommonly used tld's besides com, net and org are theres even less reason to be concerned.
(1 reply) #14 jren207 on 28 Jun 2008 - 00:36
There will just be a load nonsense floating around with this.
And actually recognising these domains won't be straightforward. For example on TV or something, if i'm watching the "example show", and I see "example.com", then I know it's their website, but if it says something like "example.example", then i'll just think someone has made a typo on the show.
#14.1 +Smigit on 28 Jun 2008 - 00:43
they could always just add the "www" bit
#15 RPDL on 28 Jun 2008 - 00:36
Get ready for a wave of www.ebay.ebay or www.google.google. If this decision reaches such extremes suffixes would lose all their meaning and purpose. Although I'm not sure myself what was the general goal of suffixes.
#16 thollian on 28 Jun 2008 - 00:41
I agree with some other comments here, that this is going to really make a mess of the internet...
(1 reply) #17 Wanderermy on 28 Jun 2008 - 01:31
2girls.1cup


#17.1 atari800 on 28 Jun 2008 - 04:14
You that right on the head
Every sentence will be an address site

http://dont.look.at.this.or.you.will.puke.I.mean.it.you.will

which will fall under everyones new media for last will and testaments


Digital septic tank....
So I wonder how we will find google?
http://I.need.the.one.point.to.get.my.info

We need geeks, nerds, hackers, and l33t to keep it clean or at least keep the compass clear..but whatever
#18 mocax on 28 Jun 2008 - 04:43
maintaining TLDs is a hefty investment in infrastructure.
Your servers will be pounded relentlessly with requests to resolve names and registration of new domain names. And all the syncing stuff going on.
#19 +Chipshop on 28 Jun 2008 - 09:24
Oh dear oh dear this is ridiculous, better management of existing tld's would have a much better move
#20 plastikaa on 28 Jun 2008 - 09:40
I actually feel this is going to make noob users even more vunerable to fake domains in emails...

People will be able to create domains such as "http://www.paypal.coms/............" and a lot of people wont notice and just click away.


(its not implemented yet... people should argue against this?)

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