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Yahoo: Burn Your DRMed Tracks to CD Now

Daniel Fleshbourne   on 25 July 2008 - 11:48 · 27 comments & 9179 views

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Yahoo has become the latest company to abandon customers who bought tracks from its music store encoded with DRM (digital rights management), drawing fire from the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF).

On Sept. 30, Yahoo will shut down the servers that are needed to reauthorize music purchased from its failed Unlimited Music Store if it is transferred to a new PC, Yahoo said in an e-mail to customers. The rule to designed to slow music piracy. Re-authorization is also needed if someone upgrades their PC's operating system.

The only workaround for customers wanting to listen to their music on a new or upgraded computer after this date is to burn the tracks to a CD and then reload them on a PC.

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(2 replies) #1 thealexweb on 25 Jul 2008 - 11:51
Not very good, MSN Music servers are staying on for another 3 years.
#1.1 Kupo-Cheer on 25 Jul 2008 - 15:06
I understand your point, but what good will even 3 years do? You still know that someday your DRMed music collection will be worthless.
#1.2 Slugbait on 26 Jul 2008 - 04:38
Yahoo now plans on some sort of reimbursement for their DRM customers.
The company planned to reimburse customers on a case-by-case basis, and has posted an FAQ page that includes a "contact customer care" button at the bottom for former Yahoo Music Store customers. Davis said customers could be reimbursed in several ways, including getting back the money they paid for the music or receiving MP3 versions without DRM technology, which means they can be imported into any music playing software.
#2 simsie on 25 Jul 2008 - 11:55
I know another way to do it without burning it to CD

If this, and the MSN case isn't enough to prove why DRM is more harm then good then I'm not sure what will. I can see why in some cases it's a good idea, like with the Napster subscription model, but if I buy a track, I buy it!
#3 obsolete_power on 25 Jul 2008 - 13:10
And decisions like these are the reason Yahoo is struggling as much as it is. When will these idiots get it through their moronic skulls already that this does NOT slow music piracy. All it does is inconvenience the honest people. F*ck Yahoo and everyone else that still promotes anti-piracy measures! People that pay money should have to deal with the crap of DRM.
#4 +Volatile on 25 Jul 2008 - 13:50
I hate buying a track that has limitations. Ridiculous. If I buy it I should be able to do what I want and please with it.
#5 RPDL on 25 Jul 2008 - 14:32
I dont think it gets any worse than buying something and not having it for yourself. Music retailers need to realize DRM is bad for them.

Oh well, at least sales of blank CDs and DVDs will rise.
#6 +M2Ys4U on 25 Jul 2008 - 14:59
He's a knock-off Nigel a knock-off Nigel. Knock-off Nigel doesn't have to bother with the inconvenience that legitimate customers have to go through because executives are idiots because he downloads knock-off songs.
(1 reply) #7 abysal on 25 Jul 2008 - 15:01
Do 128 kbps songs loose a little quality each time you burn and re-rip them from CD?
#7.1 vetmarkjensen on 25 Jul 2008 - 16:24
Burn: no. Burning just takes the file and writes what it would have played onto the CD. It is an exact translation.

Re-rip: yes, conditionally. If you take that audio stream and re-encode it with a lossy codec, you will loose a bit of fidelity. There are lossless codecs, though.
#8 Kupo-Cheer on 25 Jul 2008 - 15:09
I believe cracks and workarounds for removing DRM from these songs already exist, so why don't they just release their own version of those programs to legitimately remove a DRM format they are no longer supporting? A burn to CD and re-rip method loses quality, even if it is a pretty small amount.
#9 Pygmy_Hippo on 25 Jul 2008 - 16:27
Another good reason not to buy DRm infested garbage.

How has this affected pirates? Not one iota - they paid nothing, got a decent bitrate and it will work until they wipe it.

How has this affected legitimate customers. Plenty - they probably paid over the top, got low bitrates and now have to transcode everything to continue working properly.

Is there any point in being honest? Doesn't appear so.
#10 ThePitt on 25 Jul 2008 - 16:29
witht that crappy quality?. that would be a waste of a CD.
No thanks
(1 reply) #11 TRC on 25 Jul 2008 - 17:14
This is another reason why people don't pay for music.
#11.1 Rfire on 25 Jul 2008 - 18:07
Yup. Why bother when you're going to get punished for doing so? I only buy from indie labels these days. Nothing worth listening to from the RIAA labels anyway.
(2 replies) #12 Roger MS on 25 Jul 2008 - 21:46
I think a lot of people missed the talking point of the story:

The only workaround for customers wanting to listen to their music on a new or upgraded computer after this date is to burn the tracks to a CD and then reload them on a PC.


So, let's say you decide to buy a new computer for Christmas. You pull out your optical discs, reload the DRM music to this new machine and...is there an authentication server that will approve the playback of these files? No.

You've wasted money on optical discs, and wasted your time burning the useless data to them.

Asking for a refund may not accomplish anything more than "backing up" your music will accomplish, but the odds are better for getting the refund than being able to listen to music you paid for.
#12.1 z_rudy on 25 Jul 2008 - 22:47
You wouldn't be reloading DRMed music from your discs. I guess they meant that you'd burn them as audio discs (yeah, killing the DRM and quality too).

Hello doubleTwist?
#12.2 renzska on 25 Jul 2008 - 23:04
Or you could use a program like MuvAudio.
#13 orangebrand on 25 Jul 2008 - 23:18
I haven't tried this myself, but I was thinking you could do this to save some cds and some time.

Make a audio image (.iso, .img) and just use a virtual cd drive emulator such as daemon tools to rip the audio tracks.

I think some of you may understand what I'm saying and would like to comment, please do.
#14 CrazyK on 26 Jul 2008 - 08:27
I remember year ago when all the DRM came out, all the big companies said there would always be a way to authorise, Im glad I never trusted it. Ive got quite a bit of music on iTunes, does make me think now.
#15 hotdog963al on 26 Jul 2008 - 12:13
Owned, this is what happens if you buy music online!
#16 Rolith on 26 Jul 2008 - 16:32
Every time I see something like this, I think about how smart amazon is, and wonder why people aren't more supportive of the "right way" to do digital purchases...
#17 Kaidiir on 26 Jul 2008 - 18:23
Owned!
#18 Bladerunner on 26 Jul 2008 - 20:28
Man, all this DRM **** makes me sick.
#19 gollux on 28 Jul 2008 - 00:31
The music recording industry as fronted by the RIAA teaches you over and over again to be a good little crook. First thing, if you buy digital file format only, always immediately crack the DRM and archive it in a usable format so that you actually can own the rights to play the music. If you do not do that, loss of key servers when someone throws in the dishtowel means that your digital collection is worthless. If you buy DRM'd CD's, figure out how to bypass the DRM. Otherwise your computer gets infected with betaware that phones home and usually cripples your computer in some way that causes unstable operation.

Buy non-RIAA CD's if at all possible. Support artists that have the cojones to either be their own label or sign onto labels that understand we want to buy a CD to play in our computer, pull tracks for our MP3 player or play on our stereo. The CD is only a container, the file used to download is only a container. If you want us to buy, don't add bohunkus garbage to the container.

I'm still buying CD's as that's the most useful method of archiving music at this time, just not anything RIAA endorsed or contaminated. $120 worth last month that went directly to the artists producing the music.
#20 Unplugged on 29 Jul 2008 - 08:40
Any DRMed tracks I burn onto CD and rip them to high quality Non DRM mp3 anyway.

Not just for this reason but the fact if I like my music without silly crap like this.
#21 nothin2seehere on 29 Jul 2008 - 14:02
Meh. The last few CDs I have listened to (with the exception of Sam Sparrow's new album) I obtained through means other than buying it. Turns out those albums were **** anyway, so very pleased that I didn't waste my cash.

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