To address the growing security and management needs of today’s new PC user, Microsoft is working with 11 original equipment manufacturers, including Sony Corporation of America and Toshiba Asia Pacific to preinstall trial subscriptions of Windows Live OneCare on select new PCs across North America, Europe and Asia. Windows Live OneCare provides all-in-one security and anti-malware protection for consumers and small businesses along with tools that automate and simplify PC management and performance. “Microsoft and Sony share the same goal of helping our customers get the most from their PC experience,” said Xavier Lauwaert of VAIO product marketing at Sony Electronics. “Through this alliance, Windows Live OneCare will provide our customers with a simple solution to help them maintain and secure their new PC.”
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You mean like all the other paid A/V solutions?
You mean like all the other paid A/V solutions?
You mean like all the other paid A/V solutions?
you make it sound like its a bad thing
You mean like all the other paid A/V solutions?
Yeah, isn't that great, sort of like buying a car and having to pay Ford or Chevy a yearly fee to keep driving it....
Isn't it more like buying a car and then paying for insurance?
Unlike a car, you actually *can* run Windows without paying for AntiVirus at all (since the government doesn't require AV like they do auto insurance...yet). Personally, I don't run any AV software and I've never had any issues...
You mean like all the other paid A/V solutions?
Yeah, isn't that great, sort of like buying a car and having to pay Ford or Chevy a yearly fee to keep driving it....
Or an actual relevant comparison would be that you tak it to yearly checups at a factory service shop...
and you don't have to, you can take it to an unlicensed service shop, or you can not do it at all.
Stop his immature "they shouldn't sell protection because they can't make a secure OS" crap. noone can make a completely secure OS. no Apple, not Linus not BSD noone, unless the OS never sees a network, and even then it'd be vulnerable with direct phsyical contact so stop it. The difference is that unlike say Apple, MS admits that their OS can be hacked, or can get viruses or Trojans or their users tricked by phising. And they offer a solution for those users if they want.
But you an also get the sae maybe better, protection from a third party such as Eset or Kaspersky if you wish. As for MS including One care for free in the OS... riiight. you think they'd be allowed to do that ? when a B software company like real could successfully sue MS and blame them for not being able to sell their ****ty software ? AV companies is a much bigger industry with a lot more money, and they won't be happy if MS makes them obsolete, Heck some of them have allready tried suing because MS is selling their own AV suite...
You mean like all the other paid A/V solutions?
if you would actually spend the time researching instead of complaining, you would know why. Microsoft can't bundle anything with their operating system for free. If they would, same day they would get sued for being un-competive.
COMBO PWNED!!!
The only security that Apple offers is obscurity.
And this OneCare trial install is certainly free. Until trial is over, then they count on revenue from people subscribing. The same thing that McAfee and Norton have been doing.
I never said they could not or should not. Not sure why you quoted my post on this...
And this OneCare trial install is certainly free. Until trial is over, then they count on revenue from people subscribing. The same thing that McAfee and Norton have been doing.
I never said they could not or should not. Not sure why you quoted my post on this...
I'd rather use OneCare over McAfee and Norton any day. But then again I just run AVG Free for A/V and Defender for A/S, also free.
You don't have to use this, it's just there, if you like it fine if not uninstall it.
That aside this is a big win for MS, good for them.
I use it. It seems to work fine, no performance issues or anything. I haven't had any problems with my computer, so I guess either it's protecting or I'm not getting attacked.
And this OneCare trial install is certainly free. Until trial is over, then they count on revenue from people subscribing. The same thing that McAfee and Norton have been doing.
I never said they could not or should not. Not sure why you quoted my post on this...
Microsoft did plan to bundle onecare for free with windows, not a trial the full version...but symantec and mcafee sued them to hell in the EU for that
In the end, you can now buy Windows XP with and without the Windows Media Player in the EU, but I doubt anyone buys the latter.
So, if they bundle the OneCare into Windows, they'll be sued in the EU and the same crap starts all over again.
They might put the trial on, just like Dell and other PC vendors have their PC's filled with trial software of all kinds.
In the end, you can now buy Windows XP with and without the Windows Media Player in the EU, but I doubt anyone buys the latter.
So, if they bundle the OneCare into Windows, they'll be sued in the EU and the same crap starts all over again.
They might put the trial on, just like Dell and other PC vendors have their PC's filled with trial software of all kinds.
Sweet deal! If they supply an alternate version ahead of time, they would even avoid the legal issues. So it's not like an "OMG! We're gonna get sued!" issue at all.
oh a bloatware announcement....
I don't understand why these OEM's wouldn't just include a free version. There's AVG or something that's free...
I don't understand why these OEM's wouldn't just include a free version. There's AVG or something that's free...
If MS did that, they will become food for anti-trust sharks (yeah they probably would be able to come out of it with a few scratches as well)
Something like.... Windows Defender?
Not that it matters much anyways - I always reformat a new computer when I get one.
If you think HP/Dell are bad, try Acer, any system guy would scream hair out of their head (if there are any left, ofcourse).
With dell though you have the option to remove the crap when you build it. Its kinda hidden but its there.
No harm though.
And to the folks who hate Windows OneCare:
1. Shut up. Everything's gonna be fine.
2. Uninstall Windows OneCare.
3. Install the following software:
- PC Tools ThreatFire Free
- Avira AntiVir Free
- Spybot SD Free
And to the folks who hate Windows OneCare:
1. Shut up. Everything's gonna be fine.
2. Uninstall Windows OneCare.
3. Install the following software:
- PC Tools ThreatFire Free
- Avira AntiVir Free
- Spybot SD Free
4 - and watch you computer boged up and start slowing down before crushing and giving a nice blue screen of [strike]life[/strike]death
@11.4: Personally I'd just throw on an AV, and nothing else. But on Vista 64-bit, you can even choose not to. In any case you still have Windows Defender as a last resort in case anything slips through.
Didn't antivirus software companies sue microsoft because it'd made Vista's kernal too secure, not allowing anti-virus companies to compete? Imagine if Microsoft threw in free software to do what other companies exist doing.
OneCare's a nice piece of software, and does it's job unobtrusively and competently. It's a good stride better then the current iterations of most consumer-grade anti-virus.
I don't see why this is even remotely a negative thing, it kinda baffels me that people expect systems to just be anti-virus free. Virii, bloatware, and adware will exist on any system, even if end-users have to willingly install them, it speaks no more negatively than cavities speak of Crest
BUT..it sure looks darn purdy!!!!
This a step up
btw, XP64 SP3 will come with server '03 64 SP comes out, as that's what XP64 is...
oh, yeah, sorry, if you realized that you'd realize it doesn't make sense for microsoft to write a consumer anti-virus suite to support what's basically a server platform. Sorry for causing you to question your worldview with logic...I'm sure you'll just ignore me and blather on about how it's microsoft's secret plot to force you to use a worse operating system so you have lower expectations.
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Seems that you post was cut at the end-of-post sentinel character.
btw, XP64 SP3 will come with server '03 64 SP comes out, as that's what XP64 is...
oh, yeah, sorry, if you realized that you'd realize it doesn't make sense for microsoft to write a consumer anti-virus suite to support what's basically a server platform. Sorry for causing you to question your worldview with logic...I'm sure you'll just ignore me and blather on about how it's microsoft's secret plot to force you to use a worse operating system so you have lower expectations.
Wow that's quite an idea, maybe it is micro$ofts plan to force me into an inferior os, thanks for the heads up, also thanks for recognizing how I replaced S with $, it is very witty indeed, glad you noticed, you can admire it as long as you like.
Seems that you post was cut at the end-of-post sentinel character.
Actually if you are using vi$ta I wouldn't be surprised if it's some sort of conspiracy to keep you from reading factual information about micro$oft, perhaps if you disabled UAC it might allow you to read my reply in its entirety, this conspiracy thing was mentioned by "Rolith" and I think she may be onto something...
Why is everyone asking MS to give it away for free - do you realise that Symantec and McAfee would have a field day over that. OneCare is much better than McAfee and uses a lot less resources than Norton.
You might want to re-evaluate your out-dated opinions of NIS !!!
People always have to point a finger at a company that's actually doing something.
As said before it's better than having Norton..
There is only one version, the current version. Everyone's software updates automatically, without user interaction. Unlike M* and S*, you don't have to go through the ritual of re-upping every fall.
Do I agree with you there almost, except for what kind of hogs AVG and Avast both are.
Kepp those pre-BUNGLED programs off the machines and users wouldn't be having so many issues from jump street to begin with!
And if you aren't stupid you generally shouldn't need a virsus scanner, they just slow your computer down.
It' a better overall system.
Until I get pwnt from some day 0 virus that vista and onecare can't catch.
And zone alarm? for a good few years now, worst peice of software available. There's absolutly no reason to use it anymore, either, as all those claims that windows firewall is "weak" and "insecure" continue to sound like echos of crybabies as it continues on, invisible in the background working without flaw.
And zone alarm? for a good few years now, worst peice of software available. There's absolutly no reason to use it anymore, either, as all those claims that windows firewall is "weak" and "insecure" continue to sound like echos of crybabies as it continues on, invisible in the background working without flaw.
In my openion Windows firewall is not bad, just doesn't give me enough control over things I would like. ZoneAlarm has been a bloody good firewall since years.
As is 99% on the bundled software in new computers. Microsoft is trying to do the same thing that Norton or McAfee have been doing for a long time: Pre-install agreements with OEM's.
That bundling software is a bad practice (except for the companies behind bundled applications), i agree all the way.
I always reformat all the laptops i buy to get rid of the bundled software. However, many people don't and it's better to have a Microsoft application that would be easy to uninstall in case you don't want it than Norton Antivirus (or Internet Security) or McAfee, which are a PITA to remove in their entirety (as of today, this is the case).
As is 99% on the bundled software in new computers. Microsoft is trying to do the same thing that Norton or McAfee have been doing for a long time: Pre-install agreements with OEM's.
Aren't these pre-install agreements the basis of Microsoft's monopoly in the first place... with Windows?
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