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UK Illegal downloads: which ISP's customers are the worst?

James7   via pcpro.co.uk on 01 August 2008 - 12:21 · 19 comments & 9723 views

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New research has shown that the customers of just three of Britain's leading ISPs are responsible for more than 60% of illegal downloads.

Internet intelligence firm, Envisional, has been tracking music torrent downloads for the past couple of months, analysing the IP address of those downloading and uploading content and matching it to their ISP.

The company traced more than 28,000 unique IP addresses in June alone and found that 22.6% of them were Carphone Warehouse customers, with 21.6% from Virgin Media and 21.2% from BT.

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(7 replies) #1 Fubar on 01 Aug 2008 - 12:27
i think the results would be alot different if all those savvy people with torrent client turned off ssl and turned off encryption
#1.1 thealexweb on 01 Aug 2008 - 12:31
What torrent clients can you get encryption for? I don't plan to use it I just want to know
#1.2 night_stalker_z on 01 Aug 2008 - 13:17
(thealexweb said @ #1.1)
What torrent clients can you get encryption for? I don't plan to use it I just want to know

Almost all recently updated clients have encryption.
#1.3 RAINMAN on 01 Aug 2008 - 13:21
I can't believe that people think the encryption in a torrent client hides them from people in the swarm seeing their IP. This is false. All encryption does is encrypt the traffic in an attempt to hide what is being downloaded from your ISP. (To help prevent throttling) Anyone else in the swarm CAN SEE YOUR IP.

#1.4 +stevember on 01 Aug 2008 - 13:41
(RAINMAN said @ #1.3)
I can't believe that people think the encryption in a torrent client hides them from people in the swarm seeing their IP. This is false. All encryption does is encrypt the traffic in an attempt to hide what is being downloaded from your ISP. (To help prevent throttling) Anyone else in the swarm CAN SEE YOUR IP.


Its not for hiding IP its to stop ISP knowing whats transferred.
#1.5 RAINMAN on 01 Aug 2008 - 14:27
(stevember said @ #1.4)
Its not for hiding IP its to stop ISP knowing whats transferred.


Exactly, so in reference to the first post, even if people turned on encryption, this research firm would still gather the same data as encryption is not hiding anything from them.
#1.6 Fubar on 01 Aug 2008 - 15:09
(RAINMAN said @ #1.5)
(stevember said @ #1.4)
Its not for hiding IP its to stop ISP knowing whats transferred.


Exactly, so in reference to the first post, even if people turned on encryption, this research firm would still gather the same data as encryption is not hiding anything from them.


i never stated it was to hide ip's what i did say was that if those savvy people turned off the encryption then the data WOULD be different as it would be classed as illegal files , since its encrypted they wouldn't have know if it was legal or not so yes it is hiding something from them its hiding the data that's being transferred which is the whole point of encryption

Last edited by Fubar on 01 Aug 2008 - 15:21
#1.7 +M2Ys4U on 01 Aug 2008 - 18:21
(Fubar said @ #1.6)
(RAINMAN said @ #1.5)
(stevember said @ #1.4)
Its not for hiding IP its to stop ISP knowing whats transferred.


Exactly, so in reference to the first post, even if people turned on encryption, this research firm would still gather the same data as encryption is not hiding anything from them.


i never stated it was to hide ip's what i did say was that if those savvy people turned off the encryption then the data WOULD be different as it would be classed as illegal files , since its encrypted they wouldn't have know if it was legal or not so yes it is hiding something from them its hiding the data that's being transferred which is the whole point of encryption


unless they, gasp, look at the trackers and see what IPs were being given to them.
#2 Magallanes on 01 Aug 2008 - 12:46
At least the latest (>1 year old) version of bittorrent allow encryption by default (such utorrent), also emule.
#3 hotdog963al on 01 Aug 2008 - 12:49
I wonder how these results correlate to the amount of users on each service.
#4 madkingsoup on 01 Aug 2008 - 13:23
So the three ISPs with the most customers in the UK have the most number of customers filesharing illegally. PC Pro's qualifications from the University of Stating the Bleeding Obvious are clearly still up to date.
#5 jelli on 01 Aug 2008 - 13:46
hotdog963al and madkingsoup hit the nail on the head, if these results had taken into account the market share that each ISP holds it would be useful / interesting but as things stands its just numbers.
#6 Danielx714 on 01 Aug 2008 - 16:05
Is it just me or when I read this article I just thought one thing... "and the point?"

I mean no **** that the leading ISPs have majority 'illegal' downloads...

what a waste of resources and life

makes me a sad panda
(2 replies) #7 Nose Nuggets on 01 Aug 2008 - 16:24
i wonder who footed the bill for captain obvious to conduct this waste of time. the tax payer?
#7.1 +Kirkburn on 01 Aug 2008 - 17:25
Yes, because that makes sense when the article states "Internet intelligence firm, Envisional".

Jump to conclusions much?
#7.2 Nose Nuggets on 01 Aug 2008 - 20:40
(Kirkburn said @ #7.1)
Yes, because that makes sense when the article states "Internet intelligence firm, Envisional".

Jump to conclusions much?


since when is asking a question jumping to conclusions? and even if a private company is conducting the research, that does not mean it wasn't paid for by the government.
#8 xSuRgEx on 01 Aug 2008 - 20:14
which UK ISP has the most ilegal downloading customers. well from those numbers, they are all jsut as bad as each other.

so does it realy matte
#9 +Dave MB on 02 Aug 2008 - 03:14
Who still uses public trackers, lol.
#10 +DARKFiB3R on 02 Aug 2008 - 09:49
who said the data was collected from public trackers?

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