Advanced Micro Devices is making it clear that its upcoming 45-nanometer processor for servers—"Shanghai"—will compete against what Intel brings to market with its new line of processors based on the upcoming "Nehalem" microarchitecture. According to AMD Senior Vice President Randy Allen, the chip will ship in Q4 2008, and his company will be ready with its server products before Intel. "They [Intel] won't be factoring our 45-nanometer Shanghai product and be making shipments of that by the end of the year," Allen said.However, despite much talk about how Shanghai will be competing against Nehalem, there was a notable absence of details about Shanghai during Allen's press conference, held on the eve of the Intel Developer's Forum, including specifics on performance improvements. AMD has previously said Shanghai will contain 6MB of Level 3 cache compared with the 2MB of L3 cache in the company's current crop of quad-core Opteron processors. Something AMD has in its favor is that the Shanghai chips will be compatible with the current group of Opteron chips. With BIOS update, users can upgrade their systems fairly easily, which should help AMD move the products into the marketplace.

AMD didn't do anything crazy with 4870, there is no relation between their CPU and GPU business.
The 4870 is a continue of previous ATI products, so ATI guys get the credit for it.
Last edited by Beastage on 17 Aug 2008 - 21:55
The 4870 is a continue of previous ATI products, so ATI guys get the credit for it.
One of the perks of buying a company is most of the people like you know enough about a merger not to say this after it happens. I guess there's still some that don't catch on though.
So much extra L3 cache just seems like a "We have this space left over from not implementing all that much new stuff, so lets just add a crapload of cache" thing.
I mean, Intel is always going on about microcode improvements and better implementations of various parts of the processor, but AMD isn't as much.
Last edited by MioTheGreat on 17 Aug 2008 - 20:49
Yeah, they aren't factoring it because its going to suck.
Yeah at least until another phenom generation... Sad though we won't get as much price drops
I'd love to see laptops run quad core chips.
"the W700 has a 3.0 GHz Core 2 Extreme quad core processor"
ah ok. so maybe 45 nanometer process can lower that
Maybe AMD can pull something out this time than can challenge Intel just to help drop down prices.
As for heat issues, it seems that liquid cooled chipsets and liquid cooled RAM is the future. Or you can just submerge the entire motherboard in canola oil and cool it that way.
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