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I guess you've missed the memo: "Everything iPhone/Apple related is newsworthy".

Quit your moaning. I was interested to hear it! Just coz your not interested in it doesn't make it not newsworthy. Think about all the junk in the main newspapers these days that we just skim over... :-)

Its newsworthy because :

a ) wooow, Apple can sell millions in Russia, iphone is truly a success, yay for Apple.

or


b ) only to expect 3.5 million of iphone in Russia, is just a tiny percent of the global cellphone market if was Nokia then you can call it a failure.

Dont worry by 2010 Ukraine will be part of Russia

Last edited by Beastage on 23 Aug 2008 - 16:21

Nevah!

100% agree with you. Hippies like the ones in Cupertino have no problem with what Russia is doing now. To them Joseph Stalin was a great guy. Now these morons are saying that Georgia provoked Russia to attack because they moved troops within their own country. Putin is a thug pure and simple.

You do realized that Stalin gave South Ossetia to Georgia, right? So the US supporting Georgia keeping South Ossetia is hypocritical and laughable at best. Not to mention that North Ossetia (part of Russia) and South Ossetia comprise of 90%+ ethnic Ossetians, which are different from Georgians. I agree though, a country has the right to move troops within its borders, just as Serbia did in the province of Kosovo...oh wait, the US was hypocritical there as well.
So to sum it all up, US foreign policy = hypocritical joke.

Don't tar us all with the same brush, please. There's a lot of liberal-minded people in the US & Canada that are opposed to Russian territorial aggression.

Frankly, there's a lot of propaganda flying around and sometimes it's hard to know who to believe, but facts are facts: If you want to blame someone, blame Bush! He tied up so many US forces in Iraq and Afghanistan that even if the US wanted to intervene militarily they couldn't do it because they simply don't have the manpower available.
The Russians knew this, and they knew also that the Europeans wouldn't intervene, so they said to themselves: "Hey, who's going to stop us? Nobody but the Georgians, and we can beat them easy."

Putin put Russia on the track to recovery and growth. Let's lay the talk of unilateral imperialism aside for a moment:

In terms of "territorial aggression", most American conservatives (not to mention neo-cons", have no rights to the argument.

You can have your opinion about Russia, but for now I tend to side with Russia in the face of American hypocrisy.

I'm American and I agree with you 100% there. The US government supports the rights of people in other countries to their independence, but if a large group of people inside the US were to want their own independence (such as the Southern states), they would quickly be treated as criminals.

it is not only us foreign policy but their every policy (like human right ect) all are hypocritical joke.

I believe some "experts" (you're likely not one) said in the beginning that the iPhone would flop.

Welcome to what happens when you underestimate Apple. Hence, the news being what it is these days.

My question is: when are YOU getting yours?? I have one and it's pretty sweet, I must say.

I'm not going to get iPhone. For me the $1000+ phone without copy&paste is just ridiculous proof of the RDF.
But the article is not about the flop. It's about iPhone in Russia. I don't underestimate Apple. They managed to fool the major russian carriers.

$1000???

I paid $300 for mine (3G 16gb) with Rogers (Canadian carrier), including the same plan I have now plus a tad more for the 3G data plan, which, for what I get, I really don't mind. And Rogers is known as one of the more expensive carriers. They're the high-end around here. But I get great service with them so I don't really mind the extra outlay.

Perhaps the pricing is the only issue where you are. That might change.

We're talking about Russia and Apple *ding-ding*. Did you read the article?

Also we have 3G only in a pair of cities (not even in Moscow).

You continue to comment for the sake of provoking "the other side."

Just as there is no accounting for taste, there's no accounting for opinions.

The iPhone is considered a game-changer. It's the next iPod-like phenomenon. Despite the naysayers' doubts, it has yet again put Apple at the forefront of design and usability. In fact, they never really left the forefront since the advent of the iPod.

You made mention of Vista, there was really no need to do so. But the door is open, right?

Vista, in comparison to the iPhone as a desirable, interesting, inspiring, exciting, well-designed product, is wholly anticlimactic. It has done nothing for Microsoft's image, and at best, has been another OS that sells well (XP, coincidentally(?) isn't exactly being shelved), because years of licensing has resulted in, well, more years of licensing. Welcome to the biggest technology cash-cow of our time. Too bad it's resulted in galactic laziness and mismanagement. But the money is there, right? Except not for the reasons you'd assume.

The iPhone represents something different and desirable. Thus newsworthy. If you can't acknowledge this, I'm glad you're not running my business. Maybe you're not easily impressed, and no product really gets you interested or excited anyway. They just exist, and just "are." Does that mean you have no imagination?

Cheers.

Last edited by LTD on 24 Aug 2008 - 20:48

3G was out in June 2008, IIRC. Are we already in June 2009?

But I guess you're simply stating a fact that is valid as of 2 months later and aren't crystal-ball gazing.