A British man accused of hacking into U.S. military computers lost a major court battle today and could be extradited to the United States within weeks. Gary McKinnon is alleged to have illegally accessed computers belonging to the Pentagon, NASA and the U.S. Army and Navy in 2001 and 2002. McKinnon lost his appeal today to the European Court of Human Rights to block his extradition.A British man accused by the United States of "the biggest military hack of all time" lost an appeal on Thursday and could be extradited to the United States within weeks. Gary McKinnon, 42, had asked the European Court of Human Rights to block his extradition, complaining that he could face inhumane prison conditions if convicted there. He took his case to the court after losing an appeal to the British House of Lords last month.
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However, both British and U.S. law do consider deliberately breaching security to be an offence, and he doesn't really have an appeal. It's like appealing a house robbery because "The windows didn't have bars on them".
By the same token, if a small corner shop doesn't have a security guard and cameras, you should be allowed to steal from them?
Read the second paragraph of my comment too.
Anyway
He'd be screwed no matter who the president is. Look at the stuff he says he saw and you realize exactly why they are trying very hard to extradite him and want to put him in prison for 70 years to make sure he never says another word about it.
Files that show:
A cover up of an alien presence
We have and use alien technology
A secret space program with a list of names listed as "non-terrestrial officers"
Free energy exists and is being used
Anti-Gravity
An entire building at NASA that's used only for airbrushing images from space before they ever reach the public
Images of UFO's
Images and documents about bases on the Moon and Mars
Among many other things. Astronauts have even admitted all these things long before McKinnon ever said anything about it and they are ignored. These people would have no reason to lie and make up stuff like that. They were there and seen it all with their own eyes and don't like how it's all being hidden from the public.
They want to make sure this guy never sees the light of day again. 70 years for a hack that used a little script he found? Come on people, it's a lot more than that and there's a reason that the government calls it the "biggest military hack of all time". Not because of how he did it, but because of what he saw in there that they were too stupid to properly secure.
Free Energy does not exist and is not being used. It breaks the Laws of Thermodynamics, and the laws of thermodynamics cannot be broken.
Use of alien technology? More BS. Assuming aliens do exist somewhere in the universe, for humans to acquire alien technology, aliens would either have to voluntarily give it to us, or we would have to take it from them. Now, given that they are technologically advanced enough to travel the cosmos, I'm pretty sure we wouldnt even be able to detect them, let alone communicate with them or shoot them down over and steal their technology.
Antigravity. This must be why NASA spends billions on propulsion systems and rocket fuel every year. If the US had technology as groundbreaking as true antigravity, it would be pretty obvious they were using it.
As for images and documents, anyone can create images and documents, it doesnt mean anything. There are thousands of pictures of "UFO's" on the internet, and almost as many conspiracy theories about the moon. Hell, noone has set foot on the moon in years, and noone has been to Mars, so how the hell could there be "bases" there? I dont exactly see the US sending resupply rockets to the Moon/Mars every few months.
Pull your head out of your a** and face reality. The guy is being extradited to the states so he can face the consequences of computer hacking. If someone hacked my PC, and I had the power to extradite them, I would, just so I could kick their a**.
Not only that, how does US law apply to someone not on US soil who's not a US citizen? It doesn't, that's how. The British government is submissive to the US on this issue. I mean, the brits could have charged him with a crime themselves, punished him, refused to extradite him, and that would have been the end of it. Sadly though, the White House has the British government for lap-dogs these days. Makes me sick.
He knowingly and willing broke into a foreign government network. Not only a foreign government network, but the United States' goverment network. Not only was it a foreign government network, it was a foreign MILITARY network. Not only *that*, but he did it as a script kiddie. He wasn't even creative or intelligent about how he did it. He just used some scripts he found on the internet.
Whatever his reasons (which makes him ten times as stupid if you believe his bull**** aliens excuse), it was a stupid, idiotic and moronic thing to do. Praising such stupidity just makes -you- stupid.
Maybe Bubba'll **** some sense into him.
I also like these people who say things like "aliens can't possibly exist". What are we then? If that were true, we wouldn't be here ourselves.
Clearly it was the wrong thing to do. However, a possible life sentence and Bubba's brand of justice for being an idiot? Seems a bit out of proportion to me.
He got caught, but if what we hear is true, he's mentally ill and was undiagnosed at the time he did the hack. Get him the right doctor the right kind of mental health treatment, he might turn out to be ****ing brilliant! I mean, if he can hack the pentagon while mental ill, imagine what he could do if they could get him stable, sober, and sane.
You ****ing right-wing Law & Order types thing jail is the answer to everything. You don't stop to consider what you're throwing away by just locking someone up and not even trying to see how his skills could be useful.
So by your logic, we should take a serial murderer who was mega efficient at carving bodies up, give him a free ride and put him in a butcher shop of some kind where he can use those skills?
So by your logic, we should take a serial murderer who was mega efficient at carving bodies up, give him a free ride and put him in a butcher shop of some kind where he can use those skills?
Where did I say anything about serial murderers? I think you're the one who needs to study logic a little more, buddy.
but of course we are all serving the US of A
poor guy, my son has Asperger's syndrome and I understand that he got a little carried away with his curiosity.
oh how i reaaaaly hope something bad happens to you.
Remember, the people defending him for *insert lame reason* would like to think that hacking is perfectly legal and that he did nothing wrong. Hello?? He hacked into a military computer system. It is 100% irrelevant *how* or *why* he did it (honestly, does his hunting for UFO/alien/conspiracy theories really change things?), scripts or otherwise. That does not change the fact that he still hacked into their system with no permission/authorization. I have yet hear of anyone in the US military who said, "Oh yeah, we gave him permission to hack into our systems or to breach our security to test for vulnerabilities." I guess those defending him have evidence of such. *shrug*
I guess I should hop on to the bandwagon too. You folks in Britain, any suggestions on a British target to hack (you know, for curiosity purposes and all, *cough* UFO's, aliens, British royal coverups or scandals *cough*), brag about then try to fight extradition?
so you think all hackers should be tried as terrorists and locked up for 70years?
The world is a scary place
For murder, yes, I can see that as an acceptable punishment. For curiosity? No. I'm not denying that he deserves punishment of some description, but an effective death sentence in an American prison is not it.
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