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AMD pushes triple-core processors

Daniel Fleshbourne   on 09 September 2008 - 09:52 · 24 comments & 8368 views

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AMD has announced three new triple-core processors and improved support for Microsoft's Hyper-V virtualisation technology. The new chips include the Phenom X3 8750 Black Edition, with a Clock Multiplier Control and tuneable performance, and the energy-efficient Phenom X3 8450e and Phenom X3 8250e.

AMD is aiming the new chips at digital content creators and the high-end gaming market. Meanwhile, the company has also announced that it is working more closely with Microsoft on virtualisation technology.

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(6 replies) #1 ahhell on 09 Sep 2008 - 10:50
Sorry AMD but "high-end" gamers are going to get true quad core processors not broken....er..triple core ones
#1.1 buletov on 09 Sep 2008 - 13:59
And pay extra for an additional working core that they basically won't utilize.
#1.2 Xenomorph on 09 Sep 2008 - 14:04
(ahhell said @ #1)
Sorry AMD but "high-end" gamers are going to get true quad core processors not broken....er..triple core ones


I believe the biggest issue AMD has against them with their Triple Core CPUs is the opinion of someone that they are getting a "broken" chip.

Do you not realize Intel sells "broken" chips ALL THE TIME as down-clocked CPUs?

What do you think the E7200 is? A broken E8400. Then E5200? An E8400 so broken, it couldn't even be sold as an E7200. People don't look at those as "broken" though. They just look at the E7200 and E5200 as a lower cost CPU with less cache and lower BUS speed.

Even Intel's popular quad-core CPUs they sell are just "broken" versions of the "Extreme" line that either had faulty cache or failed tests at the higher BUS speeds.

Intel does this all the time, and has always done this. Intel disables a broken function and just sells it as a lower-end CPU.

If AMD can sell a Triple Core CPU for the price of a Dual Core, what is the problem?

#1.3 TruckWEB on 09 Sep 2008 - 14:41
(Xenomorph said @ #1.2)
Intel does this all the time, and has always done this. Intel disables a broken function and just sells it as a lower-end CPU.

If AMD can sell a Triple Core CPU for the price of a Dual Core, what is the problem?


Intel never said they where selling broken CPU (even if they do all the time). AMD did, and I guess that's the problem.

Funny how people change minds so quickly. I remember when the Athlon64 came out and Intel was failing with the P4, everybody was praising AMD, they where the BEST. Now, today, AMD is trash. Wow....
#1.4 RAID 0 on 09 Sep 2008 - 14:53
(TruckWEB said @ #1.3)
(Xenomorph said @ #1.2)
Intel does this all the time, and has always done this. Intel disables a broken function and just sells it as a lower-end CPU.

If AMD can sell a Triple Core CPU for the price of a Dual Core, what is the problem?


Intel never said they where selling broken CPU (even if they do all the time). AMD did, and I guess that's the problem.

Funny how people change minds so quickly. I remember when the Athlon 64 came out and Intel was failing with the P4, everybody was praising AMD, they where the BEST. Now, today, AMD is trash. Wow....


Actually, it was a fact Intel did this dating back to the 386 and 486 days. A chip didn't meet expectations, clock it lower and sell it at a lower cost. The built in math co-processor didn't work? Sell what was supposed to be a 486 DX as a 486 SX.

Intel did say they do this... just not this decade.
#1.5 +Dakkaroth on 09 Sep 2008 - 16:42
I believe that would qualify as "old news" to them.
#1.6 Airlink on 09 Sep 2008 - 21:28
(buletov said @ #1.1)
And pay extra for an additional working core that they basically won't utilize.

I use all four cores in games like Crysis, SupCom FA, COD4, Stalker, and M2TW Kingdoms. And In SupCom FA, sometimes I even max out all four cores. Your idea that games don't utilize the fourth core is rooted firmly inside 2006. Welcome to 2008, hope you like it and all the Intel Quad-Cores that kick so much ass.
(2 replies) #2 TruckWEB on 09 Sep 2008 - 11:23
Gamers does not always mean kids with lots of money.

You can get very good performance from a X3 CPU using a good video card, like the ATI 4870 and enough memory.

#2.1 Airlink on 09 Sep 2008 - 21:30
Yeah, and you can get better performance from a Intel Core 2 Quad. You won't even pay to much more for it.
#2.2 David3k on 10 Sep 2008 - 08:43
Hey, a Phenom x3 and 4850 make a great combo.
#3 RPDL on 09 Sep 2008 - 12:25
The 8750 scores better in benchmarks than the well known 8400 and costs less, whats not to love? I'd definitely consider it.
(5 replies) #4 Lasker on 09 Sep 2008 - 13:49
I hope that AMD never go bankrupt, because this will make Intel the only one and make this increase their price in all his processor products. Intel will became the new Apple computer.
#4.1 mel00 on 09 Sep 2008 - 17:19
(Lasker said @ #4)
I hope that AMD never go bankrupt, because this will make Intel the only one and make this increase their price in all his processor products. Intel will became the new Apple computer.


I agree..
I still have hope for AMD. Intel took AMD grown in 2006 so only been 2 1/2 year...
#4.2 Airlink on 09 Sep 2008 - 21:32
It's either AMD stays alive or Intel becomes a monopoly. So...

Attention stupid and/or poor people: Buy AMD processors so us smart and/or rich people can keep enjoying the benifits of the competetion between Intel and AMD. Thank you, that is all.

#4.3 nonick on 10 Sep 2008 - 06:52
(Airlink said @ #4.2)
It's either AMD stays alive or Intel becomes a monopoly. So...

Attention stupid and/or poor people: Buy AMD processors so us smart and/or rich people can keep enjoying the benifits of the competetion between Intel and AMD. Thank you, that is all.



Gotta love short sighted people...

If you think the only difference will be the price, then you are severely mistaken.
#4.4 Skynetfuture on 10 Sep 2008 - 11:22
(nonick said @ #4.3)
(Airlink said @ #4.2)
It's either AMD stays alive or Intel becomes a monopoly. So...

Attention stupid and/or poor people: Buy AMD processors so us smart and/or rich people can keep enjoying the benifits of the competetion between Intel and AMD. Thank you, that is all.



Gotta love short sighted people...

If you think the only difference will be the price, then you are severely mistaken.


cpu spec ...

they will sell you

a cpu which perform 5% better then the current

and it will cost you 100% more !
#4.5 nmesisca on 11 Sep 2008 - 09:05
(Airlink said @ #4.2)
It's either AMD stays alive or Intel becomes a monopoly. So...

Attention stupid and/or poor people: Buy AMD processors so us smart and/or rich people can keep enjoying the benifits of the competetion between Intel and AMD. Thank you, that is all.




Attention idiots that like to spend twice as much for a 5%speed increase... recession is here. Wish I was there to see your face when you have to sell your quad core to buy food.
(4 replies) #5 hardgiant on 11 Sep 2008 - 10:12
Right now the Phenom is just not worth it.
#5.1 nmesisca on 11 Sep 2008 - 11:54
(hardgiant said @ #5)
Right now the Phenom is just not worth it.


I would say, right now, anything ABOVE a Phenom is not worth it.
I would be interested in hearing exact names of softwares that you CANNOT run on a phenom (either X3 or X4)... anyone please?
#5.2 hardgiant on 12 Sep 2008 - 01:47
(nmesisca said @ #5.1)
(hardgiant said @ #5)
Right now the Phenom is just not worth it.


I would say, right now, anything ABOVE a Phenom is not worth it.
I would be interested in hearing exact names of software that you CANNOT run on a phenom (either X3 or X4)... anyone please?


Looking at the prices for mobo + cpu it's just better to get a Intel right now.

$100 for the mobo and $80 for e5200 = $180 for an awesome overclock to 4Ghz.

or

$100 for the mobo and $190 for Q6600 = $290 for an awesome quad overclock to 3.2Ghz.

Both are great investments that will outlast any Phenom machine.
#5.3 nmesisca on 12 Sep 2008 - 08:34
(hardgiant said @ #5.2)
(nmesisca said @ #5.1)
(hardgiant said @ #5)
Right now the Phenom is just not worth it.


I would say, right now, anything ABOVE a Phenom is not worth it.
I would be interested in hearing exact names of software that you CANNOT run on a phenom (either X3 or X4)... anyone please?


Looking at the prices for mobo + cpu it's just better to get a Intel right now.

$100 for the mobo and $80 for e5200 = $180 for an awesome overclock to 4Ghz.

or

$100 for the mobo and $190 for Q6600 = $290 for an awesome quad overclock to 3.2Ghz.

Both are great investments that will outlast any Phenom machine.


as every American does, you forget not all of us are living in the US.
Its not that cheap here. And if their X3 is in the same price range as the intel C2D (top) then I have no clue WTF you're talking about.
#5.4 hardgiant on 12 Sep 2008 - 10:20
(nmesisca said @ #5.3)
(hardgiant said @ #5.2)
(nmesisca said @ #5.1)
(hardgiant said @ #5)
Right now the Phenom is just not worth it.


I would say, right now, anything ABOVE a Phenom is not worth it.
I would be interested in hearing exact names of software that you CANNOT run on a phenom (either X3 or X4)... anyone please?


Looking at the prices for mobo + cpu it's just better to get a Intel right now.

$100 for the mobo and $80 for e5200 = $180 for an awesome overclock to 4Ghz.

or

$100 for the mobo and $190 for Q6600 = $290 for an awesome quad overclock to 3.2Ghz.

Both are great investments that will outlast any Phenom machine.


as every American does, you forget not all of us are living in the US.
Its not that cheap here. And if their X3 is in the same price range as the intel C2D (top) then I have no clue WTF you're talking about.


Most software will run faster on an e5200 dual core then on a Phenom x3 especially when you overclock. The C2D just has a lot more horsepower then the current AMD offerings. One extra core just doesn't make enough difference.

(1 reply) #6 Max Packer on 11 Sep 2008 - 11:29
I have a Phenom X4 @ 2.8ghz and a 4850 and I'm happy as a clam with it. Zero problems and smokes everything I throw at it. Why all the AMD hate?

Yeah Intels EXTREME EDITION Procs are alot faster, but just one costs as much as my whole system.

And no I don't hate Intel they make some top notch CPUS right now, but so is my Phenom.
#6.1 hardgiant on 12 Sep 2008 - 10:27
The Q6600 is pretty cheap at $180, that's about the same amount the Phenom X4 sells for here.

Looking at the benchmarks it pretty much cooks the Phenom x4 right now.

Hopefully the new 45nm Phenoms will compete better but I'm not going to hold my breath.

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