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Ten years later, a “Third” Google founder is revealed?

Tom Warren   on 23 September 2008 - 22:06 · 19 comments & 8710 views

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Just as Google is celebrating its 10th anniversary, a man claiming to be the “third” founder of Google has come out to stake his claim to history. In the video above, a man calling himself Hubert Chang claims that as an NYU Ph.D student in 1997 he was introduced to Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin by Stanford professor Rajeev Motwani. He then helped the two come up with PageRank (the underlying algorithm that powers Google’s search engine), the name Google, and even the business plan.

So why wasn’t his name on the original PageRank paper? Because, he says, he decided to pursue his Ph.D instead. Then when he did finish his Ph.D n 2002 and contacted Google, he got the big brush off from Larry and Sergey’s handlers. (Surprise, surprise). Remember, boys and girls, always ask for a byline.

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#1 tiagosilva29 on 23 Sep 2008 - 22:09
Don't be evil, they said...
#2 +stifler6478 on 23 Sep 2008 - 22:15
I don't like Google, but this sounds just like what happened with Facebook not so long ago and it pretty much sounds like it's this guy's fault for not sticking with it. Good luck with that Ph.D. buddy, I'm sure it'll make you as much as sticking with Google would've...

-Spenser
#3 C++ on 23 Sep 2008 - 23:18
Some bets you keep, some bets you lose. Hope he's not expecting anything out of them.
#4 hotrod on 24 Sep 2008 - 01:50
OOOh BOOOHOOO pal. I'm sure Larry will be overnighting you a couple million since your PHd didn't pan out and you've had to resort to divulging to the world that your internal bleeding led to you not being able to be a part of one of the most succesful web companies ever. Please do hold your breath.
(3 replies) #5 Airlink on 24 Sep 2008 - 02:25
"By his own account, though, it sounds like Chang walked away from Google because he thought it wouldn’t amount to much. His mistake."

Even if this isn't all a hoax or a con, the idea that this guy deserves recognition for founding Google is lame at best.
#5.1 +majortom1981 on 24 Sep 2008 - 02:44
(Airlink said @ #5)
"By his own account, though, it sounds like Chang walked away from Google because he thought it wouldn’t amount to much. His mistake."

Even if this isn't all a hoax or a con, the idea that this guy deserves recognition for founding Google is lame at best.


IF he helped come up with the idea he should get something.

Heck google should get6 him something. Whom else to bring google down with a competing company then one of the people who came up with it. HEck if I was google id give him some money before somebody like microsoft comes along and hires him.
#5.2 hotrod on 24 Sep 2008 - 03:44
(majortom1981 said @ #5.1)
(Airlink said @ #5)
"By his own account, though, it sounds like Chang walked away from Google because he thought it wouldn’t amount to much. His mistake."

Even if this isn't all a hoax or a con, the idea that this guy deserves recognition for founding Google is lame at best.


IF he helped come up with the idea he should get something.

Heck google should get6 him something. Whom else to bring google down with a competing company then one of the people who came up with it. HEck if I was google id give him some money before somebody like microsoft comes along and hires him.


That makes no sense at all. Give him some money before MS hires him?? are you serious?
#5.3 +majortom1981 on 24 Sep 2008 - 15:30
(hotrod said @ #5.2)
(majortom1981 said @ #5.1)
(Airlink said @ #5)
"By his own account, though, it sounds like Chang walked away from Google because he thought it wouldn’t amount to much. His mistake."

Even if this isn't all a hoax or a con, the idea that this guy deserves recognition for founding Google is lame at best.


IF he helped come up with the idea he should get something.

Heck google should get6 him something. Whom else to bring google down with a competing company then one of the people who came up with it. HEck if I was google id give him some money before somebody like microsoft comes along and hires him.


That makes no sense at all. Give him some money before MS hires him?? are you serious?


So you are saying if You came up with an idea with other people and where a major player in that and they snubbed you out of your fair share you wouldnt want anything?

How does what I said not make any sense? IF they gave him his fair share then he would be less likely to start his own competing company or join a competing company.

The best eprson to help put a business out of business would be somebody who helped create it.
#6 +Xerxes on 24 Sep 2008 - 04:36
I'm the "fourth" founder of Google, where is my money?

Seriously, what this guy expect? even if it's true, he walked away!
(1 reply) #7 TokyoKiller on 24 Sep 2008 - 04:55
As much as I would like to see him get his share of the pie, I don't think it all relies on his invention and creation of PageRank and other aspects that he came up with.

The success and size of Google is not because of what he had created 10 years ago, but rather the road map and direction that the other two drove Google into, in a business, your starting line is not your success but your ability to keep that integrity and business model for as long as your business is operating which is what Sergey and Larry have done.

Unfortunately for him, listening to his father did not lead him to a successful pathway, but rather one filled with ongoing regrets. This is why I advise anyone I talk to about their life, I advised them to make their decisions based on what they think is the right choice, of course that is extending to a certain limit of what is right what is not

Sucks for you, Mr. Hubert.
#7.1 Swordnyx on 24 Sep 2008 - 15:21
Well said.
#8 JamesWeb on 24 Sep 2008 - 09:54
The Ph.D thing only holds up so far, why didn't he speak up in 2002?
#9 C_Guy on 24 Sep 2008 - 14:33
Someone get the guy a tissue to wipe away the tears.
(3 replies) #10 BigBoy on 24 Sep 2008 - 16:35
I think Al Gore was the 4th. Seriously!!!
#10.1 ermax on 24 Sep 2008 - 17:50
HAHAHAHA!!! He also invented Global Warming didn't he?
#10.2 Stealthy_Singh on 24 Sep 2008 - 23:16
(ermax said @ #10.1)
HAHAHAHA!!! He also invented Global Warming didn't he?


I thought he invented the world!
#10.3 Magallanes on 25 Sep 2008 - 14:46
No, Gore invented the worlds
#11 Magallanes on 25 Sep 2008 - 14:44
A similar situation succeeded with Facebook. Facebook "lose" the case and paid a unspecific amount of money.

May be Chang did spend some years recovering proves. Anyways, Google currently is evil (and who knowns, may be it was always evil).


Last edited by Magallanes on 25 Sep 2008 - 14:49
#12 C Wyatt on 20 Oct 2008 - 15:00
This is yet another example of how humanity's greed will be the ruin of all. The Google Project 10 x 100th is geared toward making the world a better place. Grant it...not necessarily for the whole of humanity, but at a minimum, for a specfic problem facing part of humanity (i.e., hunger, poverty, oil, etc..). But, why not for the whole of humanity? There is a solution...check out what other ideas are being discussed that fits into the "Other" category: http://www.kabbalahblog.info/2008/10/proje...the-100-google/

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