This coming Thursday, the Copyright Royalty Board is expected to rule on a request by the National Music Publisher's Association to increase royalty rates paid to its members for online purchases as much as 66% (from 9 to 15 cents a track). Apple, however, stands adamantly opposed to the decision, as it neither wants to absorb the rate hike nor raise prices from 99 cents on its popular iTunes Music Store. Although it has made no official statement on the matter as of yet, past statements indicate that, should the hike go through, the company may shut down the store, rather than risk going into the red.Fortune reports that in a statement submitted to the board last year, iTunes vice president Eddy Cue suggested simply closing down the music store, should no alternatives present themself. "If the [iTunes music store] was forced to absorb any increase in the ... royalty rate, the result would be to significantly increase the likelihood of the store operating at a financial loss - which is no alternative at all," Cue wrote. "Apple has repeatedly made it clear that it is in this business to make money, and most likely would not continue to operate [the iTunes music store] if it were no longer possible to do so profitably."
Although the exact figures are not certain, estimates on the digital music store's profitability range from 10% to 30%. Of every dollar it makes, Apple pays roughly 70 cents to the record companies, and, currently, the record companies pay 9 cents to the music publishers.

I think I have to say the same thing to you!
ya, cause the the thing close to an ipod is a cassette player, no other mp3 players exists, everything else is crap unless apple makes it and charges a ridiculous amount for it.
Agree with you there, but steady on there!
Good work apple.
hell no..portable 8-track player is retro man
Same here... Don't care for iTunes or the store... eMusic and Amazon do it for me...
Same here... Don't care for iTunes or the store... eMusic and Amazon do it for me...
I agree, I either buy CDs or get my goods from Amazon.
paying for poor quality music(when you can buy a CD quality for the same price) is not a good deal is it ?
I'd be glad to see iTunes go as it leaves space for better services.
Same here... Don't care for iTunes or the store... eMusic and Amazon do it for me...
What are you going to do when THEIR rates go up?
And when it comes, there's going to be a lot of ****ed off people.
I just made up a name on a fly
For me it's not about if iTunes will close, it's more about those scumbags getting our money
sue apple for being so **** imho
sue apple for being so **** imho
sue apple for being so **** imho
lol exactly.
its neither.
Getting charged for firmware on the Touch inspired me to do this and I coulnd't be happier. My 16GB Zune is just as easy to use, far lighter and compact and the Zune software is so far ahead of iTunes it's not funny. And it's not bloated, comes in 64 bit and doesn't install a bunch of garbage services on my system.
It took me a couple days to clean up my iTMS purchases, a few hours to fix some tags, etc... but a handful of CD-RWs made it cheap and fast to do. Now I only buy non-DRMd MP3s from the Zune store or Amazon.
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And he was responding to the "hard media" comment.
LOL ...
AND allow the record labels and RIAA to charge whatever they damn well please, until your oh so favourite services are dead also.
The Apple bashers amuse me. iTunes closing would possibly serve to end all online distribution services, as in the long run, no one would be able to profit off of a song - and keep customers.
LOL ...
AND allow the record labels and RIAA to charge whatever they damn well please, until your oh so favourite services are dead also.
The Apple bashers amuse me. iTunes closing would possibly serve to end all online distribution services, as in the long run, no one would be able to profit off of a song - and keep customers.
LOL...
EVEN funnier are those who think Apple is the only way the music industry can continue to exist. Step away from the Look Aid.
LOL ...
AND allow the record labels and RIAA to charge whatever they damn well please, until your oh so favourite services are dead also.
The Apple bashers amuse me. iTunes closing would possibly serve to end all online distribution services, as in the long run, no one would be able to profit off of a song - and keep customers.
LOL...
EVEN funnier are those who think Apple is the only way the music industry can continue to exist. Step away from the Look Aid.
I didn't say that.
Look at the facts, Apple is the biggest online music retailer. If they can't manage to stop unfair pricing, or manage to even make a profit, how can anyone else once the labels start charging even more?
LOL ...
AND allow the record labels and RIAA to charge whatever they damn well please, until your oh so favourite services are dead also.
The Apple bashers amuse me. iTunes closing would possibly serve to end all online distribution services, as in the long run, no one would be able to profit off of a song - and keep customers.
LOL...
EVEN funnier are those who think Apple is the only way the music industry can continue to exist. Step away from the Look Aid.
I didn't say that.
Look at the facts, Apple is the biggest online music retailer. If they can't manage to stop unfair pricing, or manage to even make a profit, how can anyone else once the labels start charging even more?
Do you really think you are only going to pay $.99 forever?
This does seem like a bluff from Apple but I am a bit shocked so many people who have commented want Apple to fail.
If Apple goes downhill then Microsoft will sit on the fat wads of cash and go back to the innovation-less company that they were. We have at least got Apple to thank for igniting maybe just a small rocket up Microsoft's rear.
Sorry to break the news to you but Microsoft's innovations are not "ignited" by Apple. Give credit where it is DUE, not the other way around.
I'm sorry but 'Microsoft' and 'innovation' in the same sentence is not really acceptable
Wow, Apple sure thinks people are stupid. Of the 90 cents a song, only 9 cents is paid on royalties? Apple is making a lot of money from iTunes and increasing the royalty 6 cents will NOT be enough to make them operate at or below cost. They could still rake in a pile of money if they paid more royalties and maintained 99 cents a song.
The iPod/iTunes consumer lockdown is one of Jobs' greatest legacies. It put Apple back on the map. It won't be shut down unless it is forced to operate at a loss and a 6 cent raise in royalties won't come close to making that happen.
Apple sure has done a good job drawing attention to itself with this bluff and guess what that means? More iTunes revenue.
60 cents for the RIAA
20 cents for server upkeep
10 cents profit
60 cents for the RIAA
20 cents for server upkeep
10 cents profit
I have a friend that sells his albums through iTunes... he says he gets about 60% of the track price.
60 cents for the RIAA
20 cents for server upkeep
10 cents profit
I have a friend that sells his albums through iTunes... he says he gets about 60% of the track price.
Wouldn't that account for the "60 cents for the RIAA". I'm not au fait with exactly how it works, but you don't have to go via RIAA?
60 cents for the RIAA
20 cents for server upkeep
10 cents profit
I have a friend that sells his albums through iTunes... he says he gets about 60% of the track price.
Wouldn't that account for the "60 cents for the RIAA". I'm not au fait with exactly how it works, but you don't have to go via RIAA?
but 90% of the music on Itunes is RIAA
60 cents for the RIAA
20 cents for server upkeep
10 cents profit
I have a friend that sells his albums through iTunes... he says he gets about 60% of the track price.
Wouldn't that account for the "60 cents for the RIAA". I'm not au fait with exactly how it works, but you don't have to go via RIAA?
Absolutely not! The RIAA doesn't own the right to publish music.
Apple made this comment 18 months ago.
Apple made this comment 18 months ago.
read the article It was just updated
By Devin Leonard, senior writer
Last Updated: September 30, 2008: 3:21 PM ET
By Devin Leonard, senior writer
Last Updated: September 30, 2008: 3:21 PM ET
I see no mention of "18 months ago" in the article here. I see a "last year", but it appears most of the people in this thread are skipping it over.
I saw the news here first: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7645537.stm ... it's in the lead paragraph, hence why I noticed the lack of it here. It's an important fact.
OH NOES! The music is going to cost $1.05 now!
The iTunes store is so big, it'll just never close. It can change a little bit, but not close.
All of you idiots who want it to close have no idea of what the iTunes store is, seriously. Use it and come tell me it sucks, but most importantly, tell me what's wrong with it.
Admit it, it's a great service
The iTunes store is so big, it'll just never close. It can change a little bit, but not close.
All of you idiots who want it to close have no idea of what the iTunes store is, seriously. Use it and come tell me it sucks, but most importantly, tell me what's wrong with it.
Admit it, it's a great service
I admit that it is a great service, and that I think the Podcast Directory is amazing.
*BUT*
I think that it is just plain wrong to pay for firmware updates, I had to pay to update my iPod Touch to 2.0. That is the problem that I myself have with iTunes.
I mean, I have an iPod Touch myself and never wanted to pay for these (quite necessary) updates. The thing though is, to be legal, Apple has to charge you for the update on the iPod Touch, because it adds features and you didn't pay for them when you bought it. It's a 1 fee purchase and you don't have any contract for the product, thus you need to pay. It's really annoying, I don't really understand this law, because we don't even know where all this money goes... it's a free 10 bucks for Apple, and it's probably going right into their pockets, but it's the law.
But this is not really related to the iTunes Store itself. I know what you mean, but I think it has to do with podcasts, movies, music and whatnot. Not firmware updates.
Wait, Apple writes the law now?
I don't own any Apple devices and I have never had to pay for any firmware updates that add features -- they are all absolutely free. Think: Windows Mobile 6.1 on an old Windows Mobile 6.0 device.
If the company left something out of the firmware, I believe it's their responsibility to fix/add the feature. Otherwise they will get bad reviews about not updating software or responding to customers not to mention the feature that was missing/broken.
If any other company charged for firmware, no one would buy it.
its just that some people prefer CD quality to whatever crap itunes are offering, especially when it costs the same(which means you're getting ripped off, or you could argue people buying cd's are getting ripped off too but that would mean using itunes is even more costly when you compare the quality to the price)
the iTunes store will not CLOSE ...
The fallout of them doing something that stupid would
cause people to drop the iPhone and go to others ..
Hey .. they might even start buying CDs from stories
again ...
I like using iTunes for buying some songs, but I still
prefer the CD.
Of course!! The record companies have to package and distribute all that music! Oh wait... Apple does all that on iTunes... and even promotes certain releases/bands in their commercials and on the iTMS start page... what are the record companies doing in this case again?