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Get ready for next-gen mobile

Daniel Fleshbourne   on 13 October 2008 - 10:13 · 18 comments & 3264 views

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Apple iPhone, move over. At least, that's the hope of Google and Research in Motion as they ready the first serious competitors to the iPhone, in the "mobile 2.0" market that Apple invented.

Later this month, the first Google Android OS-based phone, HTC's G1, will come on the market through the carrier T-Mobile. And in November, RIM's first BlackBerry that supports real Web pages is scheduled to debut. While there have been many pathetic iPhone imitations to date, these two devices look to be the real deal, with hardware, software, and OS capabilities able to compete with Apple's carefully constructed, elegant platform.

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(7 replies) #1 Beastage on 13 Oct 2008 - 11:18
"While there have been many pathetic iPhone imitations to date, these two devices look to be the real deal, with hardware, software, and OS capabilities able to compete with Apple's carefully constructed, elegant platform."


Unbelievable , who wrote this load of crap?! Steve Jobs?!
#1.1 Gamerhomie on 13 Oct 2008 - 13:45
Was about to say the same thing...
#1.2 Frazell Thomas on 13 Oct 2008 - 17:04
Glad I'm not alone here...

I wonder if Apple pays for these stories or if the media in general really just sucks up Apple like a whale does water...

In all respects the iPhone didn't pioneer anything new in the mobile space... If anything it is causing a degredation back to the days before keyboards were included on PDAs/Smartphones...
#1.3 Coolme on 14 Oct 2008 - 00:39
ummm... How about multi-touch and unmatched usability? If you think a smart phone lacking a keyboard is a step backwards, why is nokia, and blackberry (both big fans of keyboards) both introducing full touch screen based phones in the near future?
#1.4 Frazell Thomas on 14 Oct 2008 - 03:00
(Coolme said @ #1.3)
ummm... How about multi-touch and unmatched usability? If you think a smart phone lacking a keyboard is a step backwards, why is nokia, and blackberry (both big fans of keyboards) both introducing full touch screen based phones in the near future?


I'm not an English major so I don't like to say reading is fundamental in this manner, but it has to be said

I said the iPhone is causing degradation back to the time before keyboards... That means that the iPhone is influencing companies to walk down that road.

I used the iPhone and personally I didn't find it more user friendly, but I'm not your average user either. I'm more technically oriented so I don't have trouble making my way around Blackberry OS or Windows Mobile.

Multi-Touch was something that was inevitable. It wasn't invented by Apple they just got to market with a device first. It was something that would have made it our irrespective of if Apple had hit the market.

With that said... RIM and Nokia and HTC etc. are rolling out touch phones because they want the same chance at headlines that Apple gets. In a media market where they claim Apple invented the smartphone...
#1.5 Coolme on 14 Oct 2008 - 03:48
I still don't see why you think a smart phone not having a keyboard is a degration.

No, multi-touch wasn't invented by Apple, but email/web browsing wasn't invented by nokia/blackberry/palm/microsoft either. See how ridiculus that statement is?
#1.6 Airlink on 14 Oct 2008 - 08:29
(Coolme said @ #1.5)
I still don't see why you think a smart phone not having a keyboard is a degration.

No, multi-touch wasn't invented by Apple, but email/web browsing wasn't invented by nokia/blackberry/palm/microsoft either. See how ridiculus that statement is?

Except we're not claiming (insert company name here) invented those things. And the apple-lovers are. See how ridiculous you are now?

(By the way, you misspelled ridiculous.)
#1.7 Coolme on 14 Oct 2008 - 18:56
I never said/claimed/implied apple invented multi-touch. I implied that they were the first ones to pioneer the technology onto a production mobile phone.

You claimed that Apple didn't invent multi touch, therefore Apple's introduction of the technology in a mobile couldn't be considered significant in the mobile space.

Yet, when you look at the impact blackberry has made in the mobile space by introducing email to their phones, it is quite significant and blackberry didn't invent email.

So your statement that significance implies invention is false.

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(2 replies) #2 +Antaris on 13 Oct 2008 - 11:28
Many Windows Mobile devices currently on the market match and exceed the iPhone in many ways already, why is nothing else considered "Mobile 2.0"?

I hate these modern Buzzword 2.0 terms
#2.1 Majesticmerc on 13 Oct 2008 - 12:03
I personally can't wait for buzzwords 2.0, it'll be all the current buzzwords, but you say them with a weird accent that makes you sound cool. In the end though, it's still just a locked down set of words that the company that invented them won't let you use for your own purposes!
#2.2 Xilo on 13 Oct 2008 - 15:35
Windows Mobile Devices aren't as pretty or as easy or as fluid to use.
(1 reply) #3 LTD on 13 Oct 2008 - 13:26
Good luck. They'll need all they can get.
#3.1 Scirwode on 13 Oct 2008 - 13:34
(LTD said @ #3)
Good luck. They'll need all they can get.


What do you mean? Burgers ?

That said, the iPhone has set a certain benchmark, but other companies are catching up, and quickly too I might add. Already Nokia has fired the first salvo with an affordable touch phone that doesn't break your wallet, which is just a precursor to next N series, which will almost certainly be touched based as well. HTC, though a bit too expensive for my liking, have done a great job with TouchFlo 3D, especially with its media player and weather widgets, which I have yet to see anyone top it, especially the wiping part when it's raining! However, they really need to improve the battery life for it to become a worthy challenger but the soon to be released HTC Touch HD might be that device to entice users away from the iPhone, with a 3.8 inch touch screen and 5 Megapixel autofocus camera, albeit without a flash.

Samsung is still there as well though so far their products have generally been bland for me but to each his own. There is also of course Windows Mobile 7 but since that is still a long way away, it will be a while until we see all of them duke it out on a level playing field.

Scirwode
#4 Gabe3 on 13 Oct 2008 - 17:51
It would be nice to see something better then the iphone, I love competition. still, the web browser and UI on my iphone is the best I've seen out there.
#5 BigBoy on 13 Oct 2008 - 21:04
Ummm... there is a web-based emulator of G1 on Tmobile site. Go look. Pathetic comes to mind, yeah. But it is a v1 of course, however - pulease... get a grip.
#6 offroadaaron on 13 Oct 2008 - 22:40
is the phone going to be beta for like 10 years?
(1 reply) #7 Airlink on 14 Oct 2008 - 08:32
Meanwhile, the HTC Touch Pro and Blackberry Storm are kicking the iPhone's ass six ways from Sunday and twice on Monday.
#7.1 LTD on 14 Oct 2008 - 18:01
Airlink said,
Meanwhile, the HTC Touch Pro and Blackberry Storm are kicking the iPhone's ass six ways from Sunday and twice on Monday.


Based on?? Currently the iPhone is best of breed. Even without copy/paste.

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