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Microsoft releases Silverlight 2

Tom Warren   on 13 October 2008 - 16:52 · 53 comments & 7786 views

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Microsoft today announced the availability of Silverlight 2.

Silverlight is a cross-browser, cross-platform, and cross-device plug-in to rival Adobe's Flash. It allows for developers to build interactive applications for the Web.

Microsoft also announced further support of open source communities by funding advanced Silverlight development capabilities with the Eclipse Foundation’s integrated development environment (IDE) and by providing new controls to developers with the Silverlight Control Pack (SCP) under the Microsoft Permissive License.

“We launched Silverlight just over a year ago, and already one in four consumers worldwide has access to a computer with Silverlight already installed,” said Scott Guthrie, corporate vice president of the .NET Developer Division at Microsoft.

Silverlight 2 features include:
  • Support for Mac, Windows and Linux in Firefox, Safari and Windows Internet Explorer
  • Improved server scalability and expanded advertiser support
  • Advanced content protection
  • Deep zoom, for zooming and navigation of ultrahigh resolution imagery
  • Advanced skinning and templating support
Silverlight 2 will be available to download tomorrow at http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight

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(6 replies) #1 ripgut on 13 Oct 2008 - 16:55
That's nice and all, but what is it?
#1.1 Fanon on 13 Oct 2008 - 17:51
Microsoft's product that competes with Flash.
#1.2 rev23dev on 13 Oct 2008 - 19:18
(Fanon said @ #2)
Microsoft's product that competes with Flash.


As a developer, I have to say that's not quite true. It is a plugin, like flash, and in some cases will replace flash, that allows developers to target WPF like user interfaces in a browser. Silverlight will be more apparent in web applications.
#1.3 HalcyonX12 on 14 Oct 2008 - 02:03
You might as well use AJAX or Flash to make your interface, WPF doesn't work across all the platforms that Silverlight runs on.
#1.4 Fanon on 14 Oct 2008 - 04:54
(rev23dev said @ #1.2)
(Fanon said @ #2)
Microsoft's product that competes with Flash.


As a developer, I have to say that's not quite true. It is a plugin, like flash, and in some cases will replace flash, that allows developers to target WPF like user interfaces in a browser. Silverlight will be more apparent in web applications.


Advertisements aside, Flash isn't apparent in Web apps?

I am a developer, and my statement is true; Silverlight directly competes with Flash. Both products are designed to bring rich experiences to the Web.
#1.5 Magallanes on 14 Oct 2008 - 17:06
Fanon said,
(rev23dev said @ #1.2)

(Fanon said @ #2)
Microsoft's product that competes with Flash.


As a developer, I have to say that's not quite true. It is a plugin, like flash, and in some cases will replace flash, that allows developers to target WPF like user interfaces in a browser. Silverlight will be more apparent in web applications.


Advertisements aside, Flash isn't apparent in Web apps?

I am a developer, and my statement is true; Silverlight directly competes with Flash. Both products are designed to bring rich experiences to the Web.


But flash is widely used, so there aren't much justification to switch from flash to switch, even if you are a visual studio developer.


#1.6 Fanon on 14 Oct 2008 - 18:00
Magallanes said,
Fanon said,

(rev23dev said @ #1.2)

(Fanon said @ #2)
Microsoft's product that competes with Flash.


As a developer, I have to say that's not quite true. It is a plugin, like flash, and in some cases will replace flash, that allows developers to target WPF like user interfaces in a browser. Silverlight will be more apparent in web applications.


Advertisements aside, Flash isn't apparent in Web apps?

I am a developer, and my statement is true; Silverlight directly competes with Flash. Both products are designed to bring rich experiences to the Web.


But flash is widely used, so there aren't much justification to switch from flash to switch, even if you are a visual studio developer.


I disagree. The tools used to develop Silverlight apps are far, far, far better than anything Adobe has released for Flash. Existing .NET developers looking to enter this type of platform, or Flash developers who prefer using a .NET language as opposed to ActionScript, would take up Silverlight in a heartbeat. More developers using the technology means more users viewing apps written for Silverlight.
(4 replies) #2 vetmarkjensen on 13 Oct 2008 - 17:05
Support for ... Linux

I'm in shock. Is this from Microsoft? Or they support it in Linux by not supporting it at all, but allowing moonlight to exist?
#2.1 Lasker on 13 Oct 2008 - 17:30
I am in shock too, but is pretty cool that they are supporting Linux finally.
#2.2 vetmarkjensen on 13 Oct 2008 - 19:57
Getting a little bit more information now...
Silverlight will run in Firefox, Safari, and Internet Explorer on Windows and Mac OS, and Novell is working on a version for Linux.
(source)

Seems that Microsoft isn't supporting it, but allowing Novell (who has Miguel de Icaza, founder of mono) to use the Linux emulation of .Net functionality to run it.

It is nothing more than the same "moonlight" we have already heard about.
#2.3 tiagosilva29 on 13 Oct 2008 - 21:52
I'm in shock too, but I just plugged a fork into an electrical socket.
#2.4 The_Decryptor on 14 Oct 2008 - 02:08
Moonlight isn't that far along, it's a 1.1 plugin with alpha support for 2.0.

Personally I prefer Flash, for example Flash is actually available for my platform.
#3 thealexweb on 13 Oct 2008 - 17:10
RTM?
#4 +Smigit on 13 Oct 2008 - 17:15
It's due tomorrow. I read the title and figured it was there now but only Beta 2 on the site.
(3 replies) #5 thealexweb on 13 Oct 2008 - 17:48
I hope there's support for Firefox 3.1 otherwise Microsoft will soon be months behind, again.
#5.1 Fanon on 13 Oct 2008 - 17:54
It's cross browser and cross platform. The only browser to have problems, that I've seen, is Chrome.
#5.2 eilegz on 13 Oct 2008 - 18:03
and opera which it dont work at all
#5.3 Dakkaroth on 13 Oct 2008 - 19:04
Opera seems to have other problems than just Silverlight...
#6 2Cold Scorpio on 13 Oct 2008 - 17:58
Cool, looks like it'll be a part of Patch Tuesday tomorrow.. Convenient.
(3 replies) #7 TRC on 13 Oct 2008 - 18:14
Yeah it's not released, this is still Beta 2.
#7.1 thealexweb on 13 Oct 2008 - 18:25
Read the article before making comments please.
#7.2 TRC on 13 Oct 2008 - 23:57
Did you ever stop to think that maybe they changed the article since I posted? Consider that next time before smarting off, please.

The title is still incorrect regardless of what the article now says.
#7.3 +TCLN Ryster on 15 Oct 2008 - 17:40
TRC said,
Did you ever stop to think that maybe they changed the article since I posted? Consider that next time before smarting off, please.

The title is still incorrect regardless of what the article now says.

The title wasn't incorrect because "Released" does not necessarily mean "Available To Download". Adobe have "released" the CS4 product line, but it's still not available to download.

Also I read this article within about 15 minutes of it being posted, and I'm fairly sure the "available to download tomorrow" bit was on it then.
(3 replies) #8 PowerOutageBaby on 13 Oct 2008 - 18:25

I quite like Silverlight, for some reason very smooth compared to flash like videos. Is it better ? technically no idea but to my eyes seems to be. I wonder how they expect to beat Adobe's flash which pretty much has everything stitched up, must be 90% +
#8.1 Dakkaroth on 13 Oct 2008 - 19:05
Got to start somewhere, right?
#8.2 Juan4Ever on 13 Oct 2008 - 19:36
i think it will be truly better when it have a 64 bit version
#8.3 +TCLN Ryster on 15 Oct 2008 - 17:42
Juan4Ever said,
i think it will be truly better when it have a 64 bit version

They start to offer serious competition to Flash after they include Silverlight in all future browser and OS releases. Also it needs to do what Flash does and offer to auto-download the plug-in when you try to view a Silverlight based web page.
#9 +macf13nd on 13 Oct 2008 - 18:28
Install failed
#10 Fonze on 13 Oct 2008 - 19:26
Support for Mac, Windows and Linux in Firefox, Safari and Windows Internet Explorer

#11 Smethead on 13 Oct 2008 - 19:32
I wonder if there will ever be an iPhone Safari plug-in for it. If so, and Flash doesn't make it in time, this could be a good thing for MS
(1 reply) #12 Relativity_17 on 13 Oct 2008 - 19:35
x64 support?
#12.1 thealexweb on 13 Oct 2008 - 21:14
XP no, Vista possibly.
#13 The2 on 13 Oct 2008 - 19:39
I had an assignment at college to make something like Paint in Silverlight - so from a developer view - this is awesome.
Believed or not - Microsoft made a good job with this
(2 replies) #14 tom01 on 13 Oct 2008 - 19:53
I really hope Silverlight can take over flash.
#14.1 Julius Caro on 13 Oct 2008 - 20:38
me too. Flash is a crap.
#14.2 2Cold Scorpio on 13 Oct 2008 - 21:23
(Julius Caro said @ #15.1)
me too. Flash is a crap.


Agreed. I like Silverlight better too.
#15 zape on 13 Oct 2008 - 20:05
Support for Mac, Windows and Linux in Firefox, Safari and Windows Internet Explorer




This could be big.
#16 Xenomorph on 13 Oct 2008 - 21:36
The biggest issues I have with Flash:

- The super-old Flash 7 SDK is available, so that's what you get with software like Opera for Wii.

- Flash is poorly optimized on Linux and Mac platform.

Guess what. I really doubt you're going to get an open source / SDK version of Silverlight in Opera for Wii.
And I really doubt you're going to see an optimized Silverlight release for Linux and Mac. Especially not PowerPC optimized Mac.

The end result will be:

- Still no support for most sites on Wii.
- Still no optimized support on Linux and Mac.

It's nice that we're getting a Windows-optimized vector-based animation platform that is Silverlight. But we already have a Windows-optimized vector-based animation platform that is Flash.

#17 +DrunkenMaster on 13 Oct 2008 - 21:56
I wish Silverlight would replace Flash. Flash has terrible performance. Hogs the CPU and memory. One of the reasons You need more and more RAM and CPU just to surf the web. Sure there's Flash Block and all for Moz but it's really the only reason I use Flash Block to begin with. Adobe should get its act together.
#18 Glendi on 13 Oct 2008 - 22:10
Yeah the Microsoft Download Center is all Silverlight and it's teh sex.
#19 IntelliMoo on 13 Oct 2008 - 22:43
Still says Beta 2 at the silverlight site
#20 excalpius on 14 Oct 2008 - 04:11
It's just another advertising delivery method we'll need our browsers to block, right?
(2 replies) #21 Hak Foo on 14 Oct 2008 - 06:38
Why don't we have some sort of "language-independent" runtime?

It seems like both Flash and Silverlight are tied to specific programming languages. Java applets too.

Perhaps they could make something that compiled other languages into Flash and Silverlight units, but I've not noticed it.

If we had something like ".net CLR in an embed tag", that would allow developers to write in their favourite languages and run it in a browser.
#21.1 RealFduch on 14 Oct 2008 - 12:43
(Hak Foo said @ #22)
Why don't we have some sort of "language-independent" runtime?

It seems like both Flash and Silverlight are tied to specific programming languages. Java applets too.

Perhaps they could make something that compiled other languages into Flash and Silverlight units, but I've not noticed it.

If we had something like ".net CLR in an embed tag", that would allow developers to write in their favourite languages and run it in a browser.

.Net is language independent.
And you can run WPF apps in browser.
#21.2 The_Decryptor on 14 Oct 2008 - 16:38
What do you think Silverlight is? It's the .NET CLR in a plugin, takes any language that targets it.
#22 +Smigit on 14 Oct 2008 - 07:14
Version 2 is now up for dload.
(2 replies) #23 Relativity_17 on 14 Oct 2008 - 08:40
No x64 support. Oh well, not like anyone expected as much.
#23.1 ipodman715 on 14 Oct 2008 - 10:45
Installed just fine here on Vista x64.
#23.2 +Smigit on 14 Oct 2008 - 16:33
ipodman715 said,
Installed just fine here on Vista x64.

But does it work in x64 compiled browsers? I believe thats what Relativity meant by lack of x64 support.
(1 reply) #24 scratch42069 on 14 Oct 2008 - 10:20
Just installed the RTW.
#24.1 +TCLN Ryster on 15 Oct 2008 - 17:45
scratch42069 said,
Just installed the RTW.

Thanks for letting us all know, appreciate it.
(1 reply) #25 este on 14 Oct 2008 - 12:57
Any install\compatibility issues when installing this ?
#25.1 scratch42069 on 14 Oct 2008 - 13:51
I had to uninstall RC0 before installing the RTW, that was about it.

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