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Well, considering we barely know anything about what's being done with Windows 7 I don't see how anyone can come to that conclusion.

What is likely to happen, if you read between all the line out there, Vista will be shelved as soon as Win 7 is out. All the OEM will be delivered with Win 7 pre-installed and nobody in his right mind would go out and buy a Vista in a box.

Perhaps his wording of "its Vista" will be the culprit. People might think it will be just like Vista and they should wait until its at least SP1.

I think Windows 7 will be "Vista SP1" hopefully they can finally make it 64 only so we don't have that much trouble with drivers.

The problem with windows begins to be that MS needs more control over it, this is something that Apple understood... bad 3rd party software causes people to blame the OS.

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Actually the problem with Windows is that it's closed-source, and the vast majority of apps written for it are also closed. Why is that a big deal, you may ask? Because when MS tries to fix bugs or enhance the OS, some (most?) of the apps may break. Companies have no incentive to do the work of recompiling and packaging their software unless there's a significant financial return. That means alot of older but very useful apps get abandoned. It also ties Microsoft's hands when it comes to changing the OS.

Microsoft doesn't need more control over software. The reason Windows is so popular is mostly because of the established base of apps. If development were limited like on Apple's platforms, the pace of development would decline. Unfortunately M$ is already taking this approach, requiring OEMs to ship signed applications, much like signed drivers that are only allowed if they pass M$'s tests. Their "OEM Readiness" program goes into effect Jan 1 '09. Google it for details.

I agree. I used to be against vista before SP1. my compaq had all the necessary technology required to run vista but yet couldn't. with the release of SP1, and a bios upgrade from HP, Vista runs like a charm. SP2 could however include speed improvements as it still runs a bit slow. MS has changed my attitude towards vista now

Honestly, SP1 didn't bring much of an improvement in speed. Your drivers probably just weren't good yet.

If there is nothing wrong with Vista, then tell me why is it that 95% of the people out there want it off their PC.

I just did 2 again this week, a Dell and an Acer. Both were laptop with a Celeron D (single-core) and 1 Gig of RAM. And it was just the Home Basic version. They were so slow, it was unbelievable. In XP they look like little bomb. What the hell are they thinking about ?

I ran Vista Ultimate just fine on a P4 with 1GB RAM. The crap that is pre-installed on those machines is what slows them down.

I was under the impression that the GPU was the main factor as to if Vista ran fast or slow. Though I'd definately want 1GB of RAM - at least - if I ran Vista (which I don't).

I can make up statistics too, but I'm not going to bother.

Because most people I've encountered are too damn lazy to bother with learning the new interface. Normal people like to be stuck inside their comfort zone, and when things change on them they flip out. For example, my brother used Vista for 5 minutes, if that, before bitching about how he doesn't like it.

Also, it doesn't help with all the FUD floating around. When people come in (tech support at school) and request a reformat, I ask XP or Vista? They always say "XP, I've heard Vista is bad." That's it. No evidence to back it up.

Additionally, a lot of people's Vista experience has been crapped up with pre-loaded software from OEMs. This is a practice that REALLY needs to stop. No one likes it except the OEMs themselves, because they get paid.

That's why people request to go back.

95%? Really? And if it is that high, it's simply because those same people are listening to all the negative publicity about it and figuring that it must be true. Like a buddy of mine who bought a new Dell Desktop PC and had them install xp on it. Why? Because another friend of his who had never even touched Vista said it was junk and that he should make sure that he has them put XP on his computer instead. Now his new computer which could easily run Vista is running a 7 year old OS, and there's nothing he can do about it. People do stuff like this based on ignorance, not knowledge. And where do you get the figure 95%? From all the people getting their computers from OEMs that fill it with so much junk that it crawls right out of the gate, and everyone blames Vista for it!