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Windows 7 pre-beta build is 6801

Tom Warren   on 24 October 2008 - 12:22 · 31 comments & 22212 views

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Microsoft announced the availability of a critical security patch yesterday affecting a variety of Windows operating systems.

Interestingly, the Windows 7 pre-beta build, which will be available to developers next Tuesday, also contains the bug. Microsoft stated "Customers running Windows 7 Pre-Beta are encouraged to download and apply the update to their systems. On Windows 7 Pre-Beta systems, the vulnerable code path is only accessible to authenticated users. This vulnerability is not liable to be triggered if the attacker is not authenticated, and therefore would be rated Important."

In a support article Microsoft details some Windows 7 Pre-Beta file information notes. The build string on the notes is 6.1.6801.4106, the same build string that has been screenshotted recently.

It is believed that the 6801 build is a milestone 3 (M3) build released to select customers and partners over the last few months.

Microsoft will be releasing the build to attendees at their professional developers conference next Tuesday.

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#1 +King Mustard on 24 Oct 2008 - 12:34
Nice
(4 replies) #2 .Joa on 24 Oct 2008 - 12:41
well not so nice.. means we won't get to see new exciting stuff...
#2.1 creamhackered on 24 Oct 2008 - 12:45
Yeah true...
#2.2 BigBoy on 24 Oct 2008 - 12:48
Depends on what you mean by "exciting" I guess...
#2.3 .Joa on 24 Oct 2008 - 13:44
BigBoy said,
Depends on what you mean by "exciting" I guess...


eg. new taskbar concept
#2.4 vetneufuse on 24 Oct 2008 - 14:42
.Joa said,
eg. new taskbar concept


What's wrong with the current one? It works great! I find it easier to use for the standard user then the alternatives out there
(2 replies) #3 ozzy76 on 24 Oct 2008 - 12:52
"Microsoft will be releasing the build .... next Tuesday."

And expect torrents on Wednesday. Just kidding.
#3.1 Cuppa on 24 Oct 2008 - 13:03
Naturally - it's not as if it will take an entire day for it to make its way to the internet
#3.2 Skynetfuture on 24 Oct 2008 - 13:14
no no no !

expect it on Tuesday 1 AM

released by Russians hackers group
#4 Mr. Dee on 24 Oct 2008 - 13:44
Well, I might as well review this build then for my website.
(2 replies) #5 Mr. Dee on 24 Oct 2008 - 15:05
Actually, I am hearing that attendees will get a more recent update of 6801, the 6801 on Winfuture.de is actually from an older branch.
#5.1 creamhackered on 24 Oct 2008 - 20:23
We'll see they always compile a special build but that doesn't mean it will be any different!
#5.2 Digitalfox on 24 Oct 2008 - 23:36
creamhackered said,
We'll see they always compile a special build but that doesn't mean it will be any different!


I honestly don't believe Microsoft would release a build compiled more than 7 weeks ago ( counting all the weeks until PDC ) has the pre-beta, it seems too much time for internal testing time and I'm sure they want to show stuff not yet availbale in screenshots, to make people more exited, I bet the build released will have 3 or 4 weeks of internal testing and a couple of new stuff, maybe minor or major but only people involved in 7 will know..

So will see what's going to be released next week, maybe I'm right maybe I'm wrong, but I would love to be right and play with a more recent build
(6 replies) #6 vetneufuse on 24 Oct 2008 - 15:26
Seriously people, why do you complain about the UI in a pre-beta? comon... look at vista... it took HOW long until they had the final UI in there? it was the near RC builds! sure it was partially hidden builds before, but the final one wasnt there till almost the end... and the same with XP it wasnt there until beta 2 i think it was? Even when Apple was making OSX, they didn't have aqua in it at first, it looked like OS9 for the longest time!

Last edited by neufuse on 24 Oct 2008 - 15:36
#6.1 Mr. Dee on 24 Oct 2008 - 17:04
neufuse said,
Seriously people, why do you complain about the UI in a pre-beta? comon... look at vista... it took HOW long until they had the final UI in there? it was the near RC builds! sure it was partially hidden builds before, but the final one wasnt there till almost the end... and the same with XP it wasnt there until beta 2 i think it was? Even when Apple was making OSX, they didn't have aqua in it at first, it looked like OS9 for the longest time!


Windows Vista's current UI was frozen as far back as build 5270, some would say 5259. There were only small tweaks overtime.
#6.2 Stoic33 on 25 Oct 2008 - 11:07
Connect the dots:
Ui = Vista (code) -----> Underlying OS = Mostly Vista -----> Win7 = services pack/ui??
#6.3 vetneufuse on 25 Oct 2008 - 11:57
Stoic33 said,
Connect the dots:
Ui = Vista (code) -----> Underlying OS = Mostly Vista -----> Win7 = services pack/ui??


With that logic I can say vista is still NT 4.... because its still mostly NT4 code... heck 70% of the OS code is still from NT4 just tweaked... So Vista is just SP20 to NT4? I think people are getting to use to Apple's versioning scheme... the whole we'll stay on version 10 for years and just make minor or even major updates to it and just increment it a minor build number...
#6.4 +Frazell Thomas on 25 Oct 2008 - 21:42
neufuse said,
Stoic33 said,
Connect the dots:
Ui = Vista (code) -----> Underlying OS = Mostly Vista -----> Win7 = services pack/ui??


With that logic I can say vista is still NT 4.... because its still mostly NT4 code... heck 70% of the OS code is still from NT4 just tweaked... So Vista is just SP20 to NT4? I think people are getting to use to Apple's versioning scheme... the whole we'll stay on version 10 for years and just make minor or even major updates to it and just increment it a minor build number...


Windows Vista is on the Windows 2000 code base... Windows 2000 (NT5) was a complete rewrite from the ground up.

But I agree with your post... People are falling into an Apple way of thinking.
#6.5 Raa on 26 Oct 2008 - 02:12
Actually, Windows Vista was written on the Windows 2003 codebase.

Too bad it doesn't work as well as 2003 does.
#6.6 J_R_G on 26 Oct 2008 - 04:19
Raa said,
Actually, Windows Vista was written on the Windows 2003 codebase.

Too bad it doesn't work as well as 2003 does.


Works better ime.
#7 JonathanMarston on 24 Oct 2008 - 19:22
I'm not quite understanding something here...how does the above indicate that 6801 is the build that will be released to PDC attendees on Tuesday? All I see is a page stating the MS released a patch for 6801...
(5 replies) #8 Stoic33 on 24 Oct 2008 - 19:51
Looks more like ‘Vista SP2’ not ‘Windows 7’!
MS Paint + a ribbon bar = boring.. Talk about a one hit wonder, also what’s the use of adding tabs to the ribbon bar, when there’s only one tab (talk about wasted space). If that’s the best MS can do they better fire their Ui team.

Nb. Given Vista Ultimate users got screwed, I wonder if they get Windows 7 for free?
#8.1 blu3f1sh on 24 Oct 2008 - 21:48
And why should MS change the whole interface of a new OS? Sure it looks like Vista, but most important is what's under the hood.
#8.2 Glendi on 24 Oct 2008 - 21:51
Maybe YOU got screwed. Cuz the rest of the users never actually said that.
#8.3 TruckWEB on 24 Oct 2008 - 22:40
If you got Ultimate only for the Extra, well, you're screwed. I got the Ultimate because it had everything inside, not because of the Extra.

I'm more scared of being screwed with Win7 being nothing more than a better Vista with some UI changes.
#8.4 rage710 on 25 Oct 2008 - 02:40
I hope you know that the LAST thing that they work on is the UI....
#8.5 Stoic33 on 25 Oct 2008 - 10:55
> I'm more scared of being screwed with Win7 being nothing more than a better Vista with some UI changes.

Thats exactly my concern, I’m quite happy with Vista. But doshing out another few hundred for a Ui update and what may seem like a service pack may not be worth it. but maybe time will prove otherwise.

Last edited by Stoic33 on 25 Oct 2008 - 11:03
(1 reply) #9 schwit on 25 Oct 2008 - 01:50
Isn't another word for a pre-beta an alpha?
#9.1 Atlonite on 26 Oct 2008 - 07:42
schwit said,
Isn't another word for a pre-beta an alpha?


+1 thats what i thought too
(1 reply) #10 LoquaciousOne on 25 Oct 2008 - 05:20
There had better be something different under the hood because you have to look mighty hard to see much difference between Vista and the screen shots. If it is much better than Vista, Microsoft should at least offer it to those they forced to buy systems with it installed in the last year, if not free, a greatly reduced upgrade price. I'd be pleased if IE8 would at least not crash constantly like IE7 does.

#10.1 Stoic33 on 25 Oct 2008 - 11:02
I wonder? all the official news from Microsoft point to Windows 7 being built ontop of Vista to maintain compatibility. Which un-officially points to multi-touch drivers, a possible updated ribbon ui and a thrown in service pack being all that different.

Worth an update? maybe
Worth Paying for (i.e. vista users)? possibly not

again only time will prove otherwise..

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