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Windows Vista & Server 2008 SP2 Beta released to testers

Neowin Staff   on 30 October 2008 - 09:46 · 35 comments & 13263 views

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Microsoft have made available build v6002-16497 of Service Pack 2 for both Windows Vista and Server 2008 to testers late last night. The bits show a compile date of October 17th and weigh in on average around the 3 Gigabyte mark.

Early reports show that the build has a smaller memory footprint, you can find more discussion here on our forums, we'll update this post when more information becomes available.

So far, x86 & x64 versions of English, German, Japanese, Spanish and French language have been made available for testing. If you were lucky enough to be selected, head on over to Microsoft Connect to pick up your flavor of the test build.

Link: Microsoft Connect (Registration required)

For people without a Connect account, you can register here with your Windows Live ID (required) for consideration to test current and future products on offer from Microsoft.

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(2 replies) #1 Sacha on 30 Oct 2008 - 10:09
3 Gigabyte service pack? Is that the streamlined version? That's huge!

Just want to check if this helps with performance at all. Should I be worried about installing this beta (ability to uninstall/update)?

Edit: OK just checked. 3 version for x86, 3 versions for x86-64. All between 2.3GB and 2.6GB. Also, I see no reason to believe these are streamlined. Seems like it's just one hell of a service pack?

Last edited by Sacha on 30 Oct 2008 - 10:14
#1.1 Neobond on 30 Oct 2008 - 10:24
It's probably not the streamlined version that requires SP1
#1.2 +TCLN Ryster on 30 Oct 2008 - 14:07
The 3gb file is NOT the service pack. It's a Vista install disc with the Service Pack slipstreamed. There is no standalone update package for SP2. It's either fresh slipstreamed install OR Windows Update.

Correction: There is a standalone updater, but it involves downloading an ISO then either burning it to get to the installer, or using an ISO drive mounting tool.

Last edited by TCLN Ryster on 30 Oct 2008 - 18:55
(1 reply) #2 KavazovAngel on 30 Oct 2008 - 10:21
I read earlier today that the Ribbon will be coming to Vista applications. Is it included in SP2?
#2.1 vetneufuse on 30 Oct 2008 - 13:11
I believe you read that it will be coming to Windows 7, not vista
(2 replies) #3 NightmarE D on 30 Oct 2008 - 10:22
I'd say it's an image. That just sounds too big for a service pack. Didn't they also say it wouldn't include the SP1 files and that you'd need SP1 to install it?
#3.1 GP007 on 30 Oct 2008 - 18:10
It's already been said but that's the whole Vista ISO image with SP2 already in there.
#3.2 NightmarE D on 30 Oct 2008 - 19:20
GP007 said,
It's already been said but that's the whole Vista ISO image with SP2 already in there.


And if you look at the time that I posted, you'll see I posted that before anyone actually confirmed it
(2 replies) #4 The Guardian on 30 Oct 2008 - 11:11
How do you apply to get an invite?
#4.1 Neobond on 30 Oct 2008 - 11:12
First step is to register at Microsoft Connect with your Windows Live ID and when you are accepted as a tester you will see a lost of available betas in your "dashboard". The SP2 beta isn't a closed beta and I believe Microsoft want as many testers possible on it. So try that way first!
#4.2 +TCLN Ryster on 30 Oct 2008 - 14:11
Neobond, are you sure? I'm in the SP2 techbeta and had to be invited. It's not a public beta, at least not at this stage.
(5 replies) #5 The Guardian on 30 Oct 2008 - 11:31
Ive been a member on the Connect site for ages! But I have never seen an option to apply for Windows Vista, its service packs, etc.
#5.1 Neobond on 30 Oct 2008 - 11:34
Try here: https://connect.microsoft.com/directory/ it might be listed in all the available betas you aren't included in yet.
#5.2 The Guardian on 30 Oct 2008 - 11:38
Nope, I had already checked that earlier today, checked it again just now, nothing of this sort is available...
#5.3 Neobond on 30 Oct 2008 - 11:41
Strange, I couldn't find a contact address either so you could request it
#5.4 The Guardian on 30 Oct 2008 - 11:43
Ok...well, never mind, thanks anyways...
#5.5 thexfile on 31 Oct 2008 - 22:31
10/31/2008 Still not listed on connect.
#6 -Hiroshi- on 30 Oct 2008 - 12:24
Alrighty, I'm guessing the bigger .iso are images of Vista slipstreamed with SP2?
(3 replies) #7 M. Seth on 30 Oct 2008 - 13:20
Anyone know why as a tester for vista/server rtm and sp1 I I wasn't asked to do this one?
#7.1 ZombieFly on 30 Oct 2008 - 13:55
M. Seth said,
Anyone know why as a tester for vista/server rtm and sp1 I I wasn't asked to do this one?


your opinion obviously doesn't matter to MS
#7.2 +TCLN Ryster on 30 Oct 2008 - 18:58
I was in the XP, XP SP2, Vista and Vista SP1 update (amongst others) and I was initially overlooked too. I just asked nicely to a great guy on the end of the Connect general email address, and a few hours later my invite arrived.

Still, I know some of my beta tester buddies for Vista and SP1 are not in this yet. Dunno if they were just overlooked, or wether Microsoft have shaken up the list a bit.
#7.3 The Guardian on 31 Oct 2008 - 00:45
Could you tell me who you asked? Because I also want to get an invite for this badly! Is it possible for regular Connect users to invite other new members for beta programmes?
(4 replies) #8 qfc00123 on 30 Oct 2008 - 13:54
Anyone know why as a tester for vista/server rtm and sp1 I I wasn't asked to do this one?
#8.1 excalpius on 30 Oct 2008 - 13:56
Cause they don't like you. 8P
#8.2 +ispamforfood on 30 Oct 2008 - 13:57
*shrugs* did u do a lot of surveys? submit a lot of bugs? They're really looking for active testers.
#8.3 GreyWolfSC on 30 Oct 2008 - 18:29
Anyone know why two different users posted the exact same message including the "I I" typo?
#8.4 +TCLN Ryster on 30 Oct 2008 - 18:59
GreyWolfSC said,
Anyone know why two different users posted the exact same message including the "I I" typo?

Was wondering the same
(2 replies) #9 Neoauld on 30 Oct 2008 - 14:23
its good to see that MS is jumping on sp2 so fast and getting it out there
im really hyped for it
#9.1 badblood on 30 Oct 2008 - 15:05
+1
#9.2 GP007 on 30 Oct 2008 - 18:12
They're just going back to the older more frequent SP release schedule they had with NT4 and win2k it seems.

There should be a SP every year or 1 1/2 years imo.
(3 replies) #10 cork1958 on 30 Oct 2008 - 18:16
Of course MS is jumping on SP2 so fast.
SP1 didn't do a dang thing except hog space!!

Vista is STILL a POS!!

But, yeah, good to see MS try and fix their crap as quickly as possible, and it probably WILL take a 3gb SP to do it!!
#10.1 RealFduch on 30 Oct 2008 - 18:21
Fix you cork as quickly as possible, Mr.Linux. Cause the sh!t is coming out of you and hogs space.
#10.2 +TCLN Ryster on 30 Oct 2008 - 18:59
RealFduch said,
Fix you cork as quickly as possible, Mr.Linux. Cause the sh!t is coming out of you and hogs space.

LOL

Seriously though, RealFduch is right. Theres nothing wrong with Vista. Anyone saying otherwise is just spreading fud, or is trying to run it on a peice of tin thats as old as Windows XP is. If you try to run Windows XP on a machine that was low to average spec when Windows 98 was released, it will have trouble too!!

- Driver issues you say? Nothing to do with Vista... go harrass the hardware makers.
- Eats too much memory you say? That just shows your ignorance. Vista just makes use of unused memory to cache software so they load quicker. It releases the memory if it becomes needed.
- Its slower than XP you say? Of course it is on the same hardware!. Just as XP was slower than Windows 98 and Windows 2000 on the same hardware. On higher spec hardware, the difference between XP and Vista in terms of speed is negligable now.

Last edited by TCLN Ryster on 30 Oct 2008 - 19:09
#10.3 kaiwai on 02 Nov 2008 - 22:24
TCLN Ryster said,
LOL

Seriously though, RealFduch is right. Theres nothing wrong with Vista. Anyone saying otherwise is just spreading fud, or is trying to run it on a peice of tin thats as old as Windows XP is. If you try to run Windows XP on a machine that was low to average spec when Windows 98 was released, it will have trouble too!!

- Driver issues you say? Nothing to do with Vista... go harrass the hardware makers.
- Eats too much memory you say? That just shows your ignorance. Vista just makes use of unused memory to cache software so they load quicker. It releases the memory if it becomes needed.
- Its slower than XP you say? Of course it is on the same hardware!. Just as XP was slower than Windows 98 and Windows 2000 on the same hardware. On higher spec hardware, the difference between XP and Vista in terms of speed is negligable now.


Just look at the latest releases of Linux - speed is going backwards.

Mac OS X? ever try 10.0 on that current generation of hardware? good luck with that!
#11 Mikeparkie on 31 Oct 2008 - 09:27
i have been registered on connect for a couple of years but i never seem to get invites to the stuff im interested in. is there some special way you need to apply or something?

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