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Oh yes, the Superbar is available in Windows 7 Build 6801

Frank Owen   on 03 November 2008 - 00:19 · 45 comments & 28669 views

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Wishing that the new "Superbar" was available for the PDC build of Windows 7? What about for your trusty copy of Vista? Well it isn't available for Vista yet (I am sure someone will whip up someway of porting it over) but it is available to all users who have a copy of Windows 7 Build 6801.

Rafael, the well known Ux theme patcher, from withinwindows.com, has uncovered how to bring this breakthrough feature available to anyone who is lucky enough to have Windows 7 build 6801. It does take some changing to the OS to enable this hidden feature but it is well worth it.

Windows 7's "Superbar" was demonstrated heavily at Microsoft's PDC. For more information and full demonstrations checkout our PDC section.

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#1 s3n4te on 03 Nov 2008 - 00:28
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(2 replies) #2 vetSHoTTa35 on 03 Nov 2008 - 00:28
Sweet, works good. Playing with it now.
#2.1 SerbInside on 03 Nov 2008 - 08:19
Excuse my obnoxious ignorance, but... what's Superbar?
#2.2 offroadaaron on 04 Nov 2008 - 02:46
SerbInside said,
Excuse my obnoxious ignorance, but... what's Superbar?


Its a taskbar and MS put super infront of it. Its totally revolutionary.... not!
(5 replies) #3 Ambroos on 03 Nov 2008 - 00:28

Not complete:
  • No aero peek
  • Has the old jump list arrow instead of rightclicking
  • Old startbutton
  • No jump lists in start menu
  • No window titles in the thumbnails
And personally I think thumbnails take too long to pop up to have a real use as window switcher.
#3.1 cJr. on 03 Nov 2008 - 00:34
Still better than how it was though, I imagine?
#3.2 Ambroos on 03 Nov 2008 - 00:38
I don't really know... With thumbnails popping up slow, no aero peek and a waittime before the window title shows up it kinda defeats all good things in it for me. I've set it to small icons and never group, and now it just looks like the old taskbar with some new fancy animations and quicklaunch spread randomly over the taskbar.
#3.3 Ambroos on 03 Nov 2008 - 00:41
Woops... Turns out window titles only don't show up when you have the grouping disabled.

So they do show up fine in the default settings.

Makes it a little better, just the thumbnail delay kinda breaks the functionality for me. I like to switch windows really fast.
#3.4 redeemed on 03 Nov 2008 - 01:51
Not complete:

* No aero peek
* Has the old jump list arrow instead of rightclicking
* Old startbutton
* No jump lists in start menu
* No window titles in the thumbnails

And personally I think thumbnails take too long to pop up to have a real use as window switcher.

Are there pics comparing the two start buttons? I saw the PDC video but I couldn't see anything significant
#3.5 Wanderermy on 03 Nov 2008 - 05:06
redeemed said,
Not complete:

* No aero peek
* Has the old jump list arrow instead of rightclicking
* Old startbutton
* No jump lists in start menu
* No window titles in the thumbnails

And personally I think thumbnails take too long to pop up to have a real use as window switcher.

Are there pics comparing the two start buttons? I saw the PDC video but I couldn't see anything significant


#4 cJr. on 03 Nov 2008 - 00:30
I've seen this on WithinWindows... now I'm even more jealous I don't have any copies of Windows 7...
(2 replies) #5 ChrisJ1968 on 03 Nov 2008 - 00:49
I'll be glad to see what the pricing will be. so far I'm sold on Windows7
#5.1 skynetXrules on 03 Nov 2008 - 05:54
if you ask me it should cost about the same as vista
#5.2 theyarecomingforyou on 03 Nov 2008 - 06:05
Indeed. The OEM pricing for Vista was alright but a bit of the steep side, while retail prices were a complete joke. It the top-tier version of Win7 is the same price as Vista Home Premium and the feature set continues to progress in the positive way we've seen so far then I'll be happy.

Still, it's far too early to make any reasonable judgment.
(1 reply) #6 s3n4te on 03 Nov 2008 - 01:10
To those complaining that the task bar was too fat, there is an option to use small icons which makes the taskbar much smaller.

Also to those complaining that you like the old taskbar with text and stuff, there's an option for you to ungroup the task windows and unveil the text again.
#6.1 theyarecomingforyou on 03 Nov 2008 - 06:11
That's good to hear. That's not to say the current system is bad - I haven't used it - but the increased size of the taskbar isn't a positive thing in my book. When I eventually use it it's possible I'll think differently.
#7 Airlink on 03 Nov 2008 - 02:30
Pffff.... superbar.
(1 reply) #8 ChrisJ1968 on 03 Nov 2008 - 02:47
is there any chance of something like rocket dock in windows 7?
#8.1 jtherrien on 03 Nov 2008 - 02:50
Yeah, any dock program.
#9 SharpGreen on 03 Nov 2008 - 03:29
The Article said,
Well it isn't available for Vista yet (I am sure someone will whip up someway of porting it over)...


Just for kicks (and to see if I could do it), I decided to clone some of the Superbar, using WPF.

Knowing this, I want 6801 even more (wish UT would hurry up).
#10 Soldiers33 on 03 Nov 2008 - 07:34
omg im gonna download windows 7 now.
#11 Dogward on 03 Nov 2008 - 08:49
I truely like the new taskbar, should have been implemented since Vista. Just tested it, it fulfills my dock needs ! At last !
(3 replies) #12 +Reeve on 03 Nov 2008 - 11:34
I prefer the stuck-out orb in vista's taskbar, I wish they would still have this option in Windows 7
#12.1 vetneufuse on 03 Nov 2008 - 12:12
Reeve said,
I prefer the stuck-out orb in vista's taskbar, I wish they would still have this option in Windows 7

That's one of the things I wish would die *LOL*
#12.2 Gamerhomie on 03 Nov 2008 - 14:38
They do. You can make the superbar smaller and that way it reduces the height of the bar making the orb stick out.
#12.3 +Reeve on 03 Nov 2008 - 22:01
Gamerhomie said,
They do. You can make the superbar smaller and that way it reduces the height of the bar making the orb stick out.


Phew, I am not a fan of the huge taskbars. And watching Windows7 demonstration videos, I actually dislike the taskbar (now Superbar) size. But knowing I can still have my normal height with the Orb stuck out, yay!
(2 replies) #13 vetneufuse on 03 Nov 2008 - 12:11
When I first saw the PDC demo's I thought, dont ruin the taskbar... now that I spent a week with W7 and now tried the new taskbar, all I have to say is wow... windows works SO much faster... apps load a lot faster, and the new taskbar is great! was kinda shocked by how good it was working with it.. expecially with ALPHA! code.. Windows7 is definatly turning into what Vista should of been
#13.1 Matthewmarc on 03 Nov 2008 - 19:30
neufuse said,
When I first saw the PDC demo's I thought, dont ruin the taskbar... now that I spent a week with W7 and now tried the new taskbar, all I have to say is wow... windows works SO much faster... apps load a lot faster, and the new taskbar is great! was kinda shocked by how good it was working with it.. expecially with ALPHA! code.. Windows7 is definatly turning into what Vista should of been


I am stunned at the stability that W7 6801 offers. My Vista runs fine since SP1 with just a few minor annoyances. I've been using Google SketchUp 3D modeling software on it for a couple days and it runs smoother than it does with Vista.
#13.2 Vakerorokero on 04 Nov 2008 - 07:19
what kind of software have you tested? I'm kind of nervous installing mine until I backup everything...

What about drivers? has it crashed on you more than Vista SP1?
(2 replies) #14 eliaztheone on 03 Nov 2008 - 15:40
Windows 7 is the best thing from Microsoft Ever, It beats the hell out of XP and Vista
#14.1 offroadaaron on 04 Nov 2008 - 02:28
eliaztheone said,
Windows 7 is the best thing from Microsoft Ever, It beats the hell out of XP and Vista


wow your easy to win over.
#14.2 eliaztheone on 04 Nov 2008 - 09:22
actually no.. i'v been using windows vista since Januari 2007 and I have tested multiply longhorn pre betas before that.

I have installed 7 on my laptop with 1 gig RAM and the performance beats my previious installations of Vista and xp on the same computer
#15 +Shadrack on 03 Nov 2008 - 16:44
I don't think I like the superbar. At least not from the videos I've seen. Most program icons are not definitive enough.
(2 replies) #16 nero78 on 03 Nov 2008 - 20:38
The reason the Windows 7 alfa is working so good is that it is based on the vista code. The havent rewritten everything like they did when converting from xp to vista.
#16.1 euroka on 04 Nov 2008 - 06:28
they are not rewriting the code, dummy! .. 2000's predecessor was XP.... Vista's predecessor is Win7 .. Microsoft made Vista in order to have people "get ready" for Windows 7.. so there will no longer be incompatibilities.. only thing they changed in Win7 was the UI and accessibility ease, w/ upgraded windows programs & protection
#16.2 spinning_quirK on 04 Nov 2008 - 15:58
better go check the dictionary for the definition of 'predecessor'.
(1 reply) #17 Foub on 03 Nov 2008 - 22:43
In other words it is like Vista where the primary difference is in appearances and many promised features are left out....
#17.1 unknownsoldierX on 04 Nov 2008 - 18:02
Foub said,
In other words it is like Vista where the primary difference is in appearances and many promised features are left out....


It is like Vista, in that, morons like you only notice/understand the visual changes. Win7, even as an alpha build, outperforms XP and Vista. And what promised features are being left out?
#18 offroadaaron on 04 Nov 2008 - 02:16
pppfffftttt superbar, looks like a normal bar to me, nothing special about it.... build in some freaking multitasking features you morons at MS. currently if you want to get to a window behind you have to go to the taskbar or alt tab and not every one like this method, its also not very scalable. I mean I dunno what other features there actually are but if this superbar is the new awesome thing they have, I'm not buying it.

EDIT: does it still have the crappy network diagram thing instead of going to connect settings?

Last edited by offroadaaron on 04 Nov 2008 - 02:42
#19 Mohan Ram on 04 Nov 2008 - 02:45
Still need to get myself a copy and try it out, been too busy with school working. Plan on it this weekend.
(2 replies) #20 KeR on 04 Nov 2008 - 04:29
Got it to work on my MacBook Air...everything works, but no sound
#20.1 edgarf28 on 04 Nov 2008 - 09:58
KeR said,
Got it to work on my MacBook Air...everything works, but no sound


install the Realtek HD audio drivers and it works... ;-)
#20.2 KeR on 04 Nov 2008 - 20:09
edgarf28 said,
install the Realtek HD audio drivers and it works... ;-)


I did to no avail.
(1 reply) #21 jznomoney on 04 Nov 2008 - 14:06
I keep getting this error when I do certain things:

Runtime Error!

Program: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\DllHost.exe

This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusal way.
#21.1 l33txp on 08 Nov 2008 - 20:11
then stop doing those things.. LoL.. what are you trying to do when you get the error???

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