It would seem that President-Elect Barack Obama has already started to usher in change. Today marks the launch of a new website which seems to have the goal of merging the gap between citizen and government. The website contains a newsroom, blog, and even a section entitled 'agenda', under which lists several sections to browse through the various issues of importance. Selecting one will show what the government of Obama/Biden intend to do and how they intend to do it. There is also a section of the website called the 'American Moment' where visitors may post their concerns, opinions, and hopes for the future.
Change.gov offers a unique way of having citizens become involved in the political system of their country, it is still fairly new and thus we'll have to wait to measure its success.
















I wouldn't expect anyone to built a new site so quickly.
Some of the files on the site have 24 October as the last modified date.
I wouldn't expect anyone to built a new site so quickly.
Some of the files on the site have 24 October as the last modified date.
Oh yeh, I'm sure they've been working on it for quite some time
Nope, he ignored you for the last 8 years. Why mess with an improvement?
he ignores the ppl who vote for bush and mccain
those ppl that are stuck in the early 1900's
I see no whining or crying in this post, so maybe you should get your head out of your arse and mind your p's and q's
More tears? Go take a nap, you'll feel better.
Is it hard going through life an ignorant hillbilly racist?
I'm not sticking up for rdburker, but calling others ignorant hillbillies is a slur. To criticize others as racists when your own comments reflect a deep form of bigotry is the basest form of hypocrisy.
Heck, like I heard recently, September 11th was a pretty big change. It just wasn't a "good" change.
I'll always be proud I voted for McCain. I have a great feeling that those who voted for Obama will (eventually) see they've been sorely deceived by who this man says he is and the change he acts like he's bringing that's "good".
Heck, like I heard recently, September 11th was a pretty big change. It just wasn't a "good" change.
I'll always be proud I voted for McCain. I have a great feeling that those who voted for Obama will (eventually) see they've been sorely deceived by who this man says he is and the change he acts like he's bringing that's "good".
mccain and sarah palin sure are winners
i mean..palin didnt know africa was a country...cmon
incompetent team right there..if they cant communicate and run a campaign..how are they gonna run a country
and mccain..losing his temper and looking like hes gonna explode during that last debate..lol..yeah real good vote
no wonder he lost SO BAD
I agree with her. Africa is not a country (and never was a country)!
Despite what Neoauld said, she thought Africa is a country - she was unaware it is a continent.
Last edited by asmodeus on 07 Nov 2008 - 12:35
Yea the conservatives vote for people "dumb like me" and people they can "have a beer with."
In terms of morale and the dream of the Civil Rights movement, this was a watershed moment. But the fundamental attitudes which for over 30 years have cost America innumerable lives and money (costs which ultimately trickle down to the taxpayer) will likely remain. The American public needs to realize that the United States is a Colonial and Imperial power, the aims of which, have already and will continue to prove destructive and untenable.
Read this:
http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Chessboard-Ame...s/dp/0465027261
This is what your leaders actually believe. It's nothing new, though. This plan and others like it have been in play for over 30 years.
So how about you stick to your always pro-Mac posts? You're WAY out of your depth in this pond.
So how about you stick to your always pro-Mac posts? You're WAY out of your depth in this pond.
Wait until the next elections to render your judgments.
Obama hasn't done anything yet. And one of his top advisers is the individual who wrote that book. Also, Rahm Emmanuel, one of Obama's top aides-to-be, is fairly militant in his views. I've love to see what this administration has to offer Palestine.
There have really been no "fundamental movements" in American Politics apart from what's been the standard fare for over 30 years. The attitudes are the same.
The United States invaded Iraq to gain control of one of the major sources of the world’s energy, right in the heart of the world’s energy producing regions, to create, if they can, a dependent client state, to have permanent military bases, and to gain what’s called “critical leverage” I’m quoting Zbigniew Brzezinski here, to gain "critical leverage over rivals", the European and Asian economies.
This sort of international adventurism is nothing new. And it would otherwise be really no cause for complete if we choose to remove the moral issues from the equation - except that the fruits of this adventurism end up costing American lives, burden American taxpayers, and actually create the very sort of terrorism that America is trying to fight.
If we take Brzezinski's ideas (and advice to the State) as a real roadmap of American policy, then we see that very little has changed with respect to the attitudes of political leaders in the US, and with respect to a general population that is very easily led.
Last edited by LTD on 07 Nov 2008 - 12:15
Again, to lump Carter and Clinton's policies in with Nixon, Reagan, Bush 1 & 2 is to miss the actual causes and effects of the problems you are citing.
And to put Obama in the same category as Bush is to compare "a great Canadian politician of your choice" with that moron Mulroney.
I agree with Obama that our country needs a change - its when he talks about "fundamental change" that I get worried. What is it that is fundamentally wrong with our country? Fundamentally, we are still the same country that our fore-fathers imagined, the same country that has come through hardship and adversity, through good and bad economic times, through war and peace, and through everything has shown a resilience and resolve beyond that of any country in recent history.
Stuff like that.
Stuff like that.
First off, how about you look at how much money and man-power our country spends on medical, financial, and physical aid around the world. Hardly a bully. And if you're referring to Iraq, the people there were being murdered by the hundreds of thousands by a dictatorship that we removed. Are you saying they would have been better off if we had left them alone?
Besides, changing diplomatic policy is a policy change, not a fundamental change to the country. Changing the US from a capitalist society to a socialist one - where more faith is put in the power of our country's government than the strength of its citizens - that's the kind of change I'm afraid Obama means.
I'm trying to be optimistic, but I'm just not sure how our country's problems can be fixed by turning it into an Obama-nation...
Be careful US with this things... communism is not a game! we're fighting for about 10 years against it but is not that easy once is installed. If Obama becomes too friendly with Chavez you know whats next. (sorry bout my really crappy English)...
wish him the best. world leaders are betting on it too.
http://www.google.com/search?q=gun+sales+u...ex=&startPage=1
Florida Gun Sales up Because of Fear of an Obama Presidency
http://mpinkeyes.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/...ama-presidency/
I'm not surprised Obama won, not mad, just scared for the future.
Living like any other person out there that don't have guns... Oh the horror! It must be almost as bad as living without Neowin
Living like any other person out there that don't have guns... Oh the horror! It must be almost as bad as living without Neowin
People are buying guns because prices will skyrocket, and those that will have them will be literally sitting on a goldmine. People want to gobble them up in case they are banned, that's the only 'fear' involved in any of this. But this will only be for the more typically restricted types of weapons, such as the AR-15 which was mentioned above. Get it?
Florida residents, who understand that Barack Obama is against the second amendment, are buying guns before it becomes a crime under an Obama administration.
http://mpinkeyes.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/...ama-presidency/
Get it?
http://mpinkeyes.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/...ama-presidency/
Get it?
And Mr. Pinkeye is such a reliable source for information...
http://mpinkeyes.wordpress.com/about/
I've to add it to the "compatibility view" list
I guess some things never change.
You do realize that Clinton created a surplus, right? Bush was the one that completely obliterated that surplus with his ridiculous spending.
Yep, and his father went on a spending spree before him. I don't see where people get the idea that Republicans are financially conservative. All they have done in the past 30yrs is spend money on going to war.
I forget the figures of how many Space Shuttles I read NASA could launch yearly for the cost of that.
I forget the figures of how many Space Shuttles I read NASA could launch yearly for the cost of that.
uhhh? the shuttle does go up more than once a year.
http://www.nasa.gov/missions/highlights/schedule.html
That being said, until I see actual progress, it's all rhetoric by just another politician.
http://www.change.gov/page/signup
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OMG he's speaking in tongues!!
This page is funny too: http://www.change.gov/americaserves/plan
"The Obama National Service Plan: Need Content".
The only reason people are scared is because he's a young senator, and dare I even suggest this, who's black. He made a good point in his campaign that judgement is sometimes better than experience. With him being younger, he's got a better opportunity to be able to build America for the future, as he'll be able to communicate with people like me (I'm 28 ) who want to know where they are going to stand in 10 years time (are they going to be debt ridden with a ridiculously high mortgage, is their career going to progress under his policy changes, what standard of living/education will their children have etc).
Last edited by badblood on 07 Nov 2008 - 09:20
Check out this incredibly scary radio interview with Obama from 2001:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOtdbqjDHJI
This may be hard for some of the Kool Aid drinkers to comprehend but basically he says he hates the way our forefathers structured our government. He hates the checks and balances. The interview will shed some light on what Obama considers "Fundamental Change".
Last edited by ermax on 07 Nov 2008 - 15:28
Check out this incredibly scary radio interview with Obama from 2001:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOtdbqjDHJI
This may be hard for some of the Kool Aid drinkers to comprehend but basically he says he hates the way our forefathers structured our government. He hates the checks and balances. The interview will shed some light on what Obama considers "Fundamental Change".
WOW... bigotry at its best (worst).
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Last edited by TRC on 08 Nov 2008 - 00:05
Sure, referring to "Kool Aid drinkers" is "code" for African Americans and therefore bigotry. Hope that's clear enough.
WTF, no it's not. Where did you come up with that nonsense?
Here, this is where the phrase originates:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kool-Aid#.22D...the_Kool-Aid.22
/facepalm
Here, this is where the phrase originates:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kool-Aid#.22D...the_Kool-Aid.22
/facepalm
I haven't heard that phrase used in that manner before. I don't think its too hard to understand why I thought he was being a bigot. If you can't see that then I pity you. I do apologize to the OP if he was using the term to refer to liberal democrats.
Oh, I see. You pity me because unlike you I didn't automatically think of something racist when someone mentions Kool-aid.
Yeah...I think I'll just walk away now.
Yeah...I think I'll just walk away now.
Usually people just walk away and dont incite more responses by leaving another comment... but anyway given the topic and previous comments its not a stretch for someone to react like I did. Especially not being aware of the terms other usage. So yea sorry for the BS.
l8r
Give him a chance and remember that you can't please all of the people all of the time.
PS I'm not saying the UK is better or worse than the USA. We all have our good and bad points.
I hope I'm right.
It couldn't ever be because we disagreed with his policies. That's impossible.
I guess disagreement = fear?
I personally did not vote for Obama but now that it's over I'm relieved. I just think that people who are saying change is in the air are jumping the gun a bit. Only time will tell if he lives up to his word or not. In the end he's still a politician.
Yes, that's precisely what I mean. There is a fear that any action which does not maintain the status quo will have negative repercussions, without taking heed of the tremendously difficult problems we face at the moment, many of which have arisen due to the current adminsitration's follies. In dire times like this (also taking into account that the last Democratic administration left us with a budget surplus) it is my belief that seeking change, rather than similar policy, is the way forward.
In the 'primarily'? Interesting. In any event, I can't see how the alternative of McCain and Palin was much better. The previous lack of change aside, Sarah Palin's significantly short and shockingly poor track record as regards most policy (and simple geographic knowledge) didn't exactly inspire confidence.
In the end, the American people spoke, and I'm glad that many of them voted with their slightly more analytical brains, despite your attempts to belittle their reasoning.
Anyways, change can be good but the change Obama wants isn't. I am not just talking about his tax policies. You ether have difficulty thinking "analytically" or you haven't done the slightest bit of research. BTW, watching the boob tube isn't research. I guess you are saying the voting for "hope" is analytical?
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