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Can Windows 7 overcome Vista driver woes?

Chaks   on 10 November 2008 - 09:12 · 21 comments & 11356 views

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Windows Vista's biggest problem during its release was that most of the devices didn't work due to the lack of driver support from many OEMs/vendors (at that time) . ApcMag reports that Microsoft is hoping for zero hardware install problems when Windows 7 finally hits the market. Getting third-party hardware to work is, as Microsoft recognizes, perhaps the most crucial factor in making Windows 7 a success.Below is a chart that shows the success and failure rates of device drivers in Vista SP1 (September 2008)



The chart above clearly shows that the hardware support certainly needs to be addressed well with Windows 7!

Another major challenge for Microsoft is getting more 64-bit drivers released. 64-bit versions of Vista now account for 25% of new system sales in the US, though the global figures are much lower. Microsoft recently urged hardware engineers, at its annual WinHEC conference, to ensure 64-bit drivers are ready for Windows 7.

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(1 reply) #1 Relativity_17 on 10 Nov 2008 - 09:45
Yet another reason to retire XP. Certain companies just are not willing to develop drivers for newer operating systems, because what they have now works for so many people that there isn't incentive to make newer drivers.
#1.1 +Xerxes on 10 Nov 2008 - 23:45
Yep, exactly. Why should they make Vista drivers if most of their customers still use XP? that is the attitude of some of the hardware manufacturers out there. Plus I've noticed with some manufacturers, that it doesn't take long for something to be declared a "legacy" device and therefore, they won't make new drivers for it (or even support it at all).

It was a bit of a Catch-22 situation really, manufacturers wouldn't write new drivers for Vista till more customers started using Vista, but the customers wouldn't start using Vista till new drivers were written for it.

Apparently Vista drivers work fine in 7, so hopefully this is more incentive for the manufacturers to get busy making drivers for 7 now.
(3 replies) #2 FloatingFatMan on 10 Nov 2008 - 09:58
Let's look at the start of that article again...

Windows Vista's biggest problem during its release was that most of the devices didn't work due to the lack of driver support from many OEMs/vendors (at that time)


OK, fair enough.. Now lets go back in time 5 or 6 years, and look at what some articles were saying then.

Windows XP's biggest problem during its release was that most of the devices didn't work due to the lack of driver support from many OEMs/vendors (at that time)


Anyone seeing parallels here?

Windows 7 is using the same driver model as Vista, therefore it won't suffer the same driver problems that both Vista AND XP suffered from at launch. Hell... XP x64 is STILL plagued with driver problems...
#2.1 Baked on 10 Nov 2008 - 10:09
Yep XP x64 has got to be the worst OS for drivers.

Having said that tho......I never had issues with drivers for Vista x64 and I was using it from the early early betas. Nvidia had performance issues with there driver but it still installed and worked fine.
#2.2 REM2000 on 10 Nov 2008 - 11:12
like Windows XP, Windows 7 will not have as many problems with drivers, as the OS to have the biggest problem with Drivers was Windows 2000. However after a few years a lot of vendors had win2k drivers which of course worked on XP. A similar situation for Windows 7 which will rely on Vista drivers to push forward. I can't see there being a problem with drivers for Windows 7.
#2.3 FloatingFatMan on 10 Nov 2008 - 13:29
Actually, XP had plenty of driver problems. Don't forget, the vast majority of people who ugraded to it, did so from Windows 98, no Windows 2000.
(1 reply) #3 Trauma on 10 Nov 2008 - 10:11
can't find x64 drivers for my new sony vaio laptop with centrino2 chipset. no bluetooth drivers, no w-lan drivers from intel (only for x86) and no ethernet controller driver. Situation is ****ed. Had to revert to vista x86, all drivers run flawlessly.
#3.1 kaiwai on 10 Nov 2008 - 21:44
Trauma said,
can't find x64 drivers for my new sony vaio laptop with centrino2 chipset. no bluetooth drivers, no w-lan drivers from intel (only for x86) and no ethernet controller driver. Situation is ****ed. Had to revert to vista x86, all drivers run flawlessly.


What the hell are you on about; Firstly, why the hell did you purchase a Sony laptop in the first place knowing that they didn't put out x64 drivers (not only that, but Sony products are crap).

As for your wan:

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Des...s&DwnldID=16618

Windows Vista* Business, 32-bit version, Windows Vista* Business, 64-bit version, Windows Vista* Enterprise, 32-bit version, Windows Vista* Enterprise, 64-bit version, Windows Vista* Home Basic, 32-bit version, Windows Vista* Home Basic, 64-bit version, Windows Vista* Home Premium, 32-bit version, Windows Vista* Home Premium, 64-bit version, Windows Vista* Starter, 32-bit version, Windows Vista* Ultimate, 32-bit version, Windows Vista* Ultimate, 64-bit version

Notice that it supports 64bit?
#4 +Vykranth on 10 Nov 2008 - 10:13
Microsoft provides plenty of tools for OEM and hardware manufacturers to write new drivers. What Microsoft cannot provide to these companies is a good kick is the **** to write drivers.
#5 devHead on 10 Nov 2008 - 10:28
Hopefully, with better education to the end consumer about the superiority of 64-bit operating systems and with the availability of motherboards supporting 4 gb of ram and more, more and more people will be clamoring for a 64-bit OS and that will motivate some of these OEMs and hardware manufacturers to start writing drivers for x64 platform.
(2 replies) #6 mocax on 10 Nov 2008 - 10:54
i think Microsoft should buy over every company that's too lazy to provide up to date drivers.


For a dollar.
#6.1 Vezineth on 10 Nov 2008 - 11:09
Yea I would love that , but the anti-monopoly **** will start barking and wont stop until they have bit some million out of Microsoft.
#6.2 kaiwai on 10 Nov 2008 - 21:45
Vezineth said,
Yea I would love that , but the anti-monopoly **** will start barking and wont stop until they have bit some million out of Microsoft.


Easier way, refuse to give the compatibility sticker - launch an advertisement with the 'look for the logo - you know it is the seal of quality and compatibility'. Basically consumers will end up avoiding those products without the logo - and thus, the crap hardware vendors will be purged.
#7 DSLJay on 10 Nov 2008 - 12:36
If people buy a x64 Windows Vista system and all the drivers work on that system, then they should have no issues with those drivers in x64 Windows 7 as MS stated that drivers that work in Vista will work in Windows 7.

The majority of issues with drivers are from hardware that was not designed for Vista but for Windows XP. I just hope people will not use Hardware that was made for XP.
#8 ajua on 10 Nov 2008 - 12:43
OEM's lack of support amd poor driver design for Vista when it was launched really turned down many people, but its not Microsoft's fault.

OEM/Vendors instead of supporting old (relatively) devices, just let users down and left them with no choice to get Vista and stick with XP because of this.

Hopefully, we won't see any of those problems when Windows 7 comes out because it will support most on the recent hardware.
(1 reply) #9 +primortal on 10 Nov 2008 - 12:54
Microsoft should take a hard stand with the manufactures and tell them if you do not develop drivers for x64 than your Windows Logo Program license will be revoked.
#9.1 ricknl on 10 Nov 2008 - 19:58
Well, Wundows Logo Program also covers x64 and to get it you need to write drivers for x64 too.
(1 reply) #10 Shannon on 10 Nov 2008 - 13:42
Why am I not surprised to see that printers have the highest install failures? (Canon, I'm looking at you...)
#10.1 kaiwai on 10 Nov 2008 - 21:46
Shannon said,
Why am I not surprised to see that printers have the highest install failures? (Canon, I'm looking at you...)


What do you expect? these are the same scumbags who have 50MB+ printer drivers + shovelware.
#11 Airlink on 10 Nov 2008 - 15:21
That's an average hardware install fail rate of just a little over 6.1 percent. That's not too bad for a OS that's a little over two years old, especialy when you consider that it's the hardware vendors that write the drivers and not Microsoft (well, unless it's Microsoft hardware.)

I don't like Vista and I don't use Vista, but you have to admit that Vista's driver support base has improved steadily since RTM.
#12 ikaru on 10 Nov 2008 - 16:41
Vista did have way better hardware support than Windows XP at launch date.

Knowing that Windows 7 uses Windows Vista driver model, it's easy to expect better compatibility at launch.

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