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Nokia launches N97, an advanced mobile computer

Andrew Lyle   on 02 December 2008 - 18:14 · 47 comments & 9099 views

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Nokia showed off its latest piece of hardware to the market today, the Nokia N97. Nokia calls this smartphone an advanced mobile computer, with 32GB of memory, supporting up to a maximum of 48GB of storage, a 5.0 megapixel camera attached to it, including a full QWERTY keyboard, running Symbian S60 Operating System, and also a touchscreen for users alike to enjoy.

The phone is filled with features from both 2G and 3G network, to its Wi-fi 802.11 b/g UPnP technology, to its 16M colour 3.5 inch (360 x 640 pixels) touch screen. The phone also supports microSD (TransFlash) memory cards, with a maximum of 16GB added storage, Bluetooth and USB support. The phone also supports social location software, to allow people who use Facebook, Myspace, and other social networks a chance to stay up to date on the go.

The release of the phone comes after Nokia planned to stop focusing on the Japanese market, and move its operations and focus on the European and North American markets.

This phone is planned to rival the Apple iPhone which currently ranks number 1, beating the Motorola Razr out of the top spot last quarter. The Nokia N97 plans to launch in the first half of 2009.



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(1 reply) #1 Raa on 02 Dec 2008 - 23:26
It doesn't run Windows Mobile you twats!!!!! How many more times, gah!
I would've so bought one of these, but after using the 9200 -> 9500, there's no way i'm going back to Symbian. Oh man.
#1.1 kizzaaa on 03 Dec 2008 - 07:47
+1
(14 replies) #2 LTD on 02 Dec 2008 - 23:48
Zzzzzz . . . . .
#2.1 Danrarbc on 03 Dec 2008 - 01:03
LTD said,
Zzzzzz . . . . .

How predictable.
#2.2 Recon415 on 03 Dec 2008 - 01:20
Danrarbc said,
How predictable.


x2
#2.3 Sacha on 03 Dec 2008 - 01:36
LTD doesn't care cause he's still stuck on his 24-month lock-in for his iPhone.
#2.4 LTD on 03 Dec 2008 - 01:43
Lousy OS, no App Store, no iPod, no sale. Most notably, lousy OS. Simply put, Apple has unmercifully and utterly outclassed an entire industry. And in two years the industry still hasn't caught up.

Of course, YMMV.

Last edited by LTD on 03 Dec 2008 - 01:52
#2.5 Esvandiary on 03 Dec 2008 - 01:45
Danrarbc said,
How predictable.

I concur.
#2.6 LTD on 03 Dec 2008 - 01:47
Sacha said,
LTD doesn't care cause he's still stuck on his 24-month lock-in for his iPhone.


Why would that be a problem when I'm happy with my choice? I loved it in August when I got it and still love it now. And it keeps getting better thanks to the App Store.
#2.7 Sacha on 03 Dec 2008 - 02:22
Seems you put it all down to the lousy OS (that you haven't tried yet -- touch symbian).

Every platform keeps getting 'better and better' due to more applications being developed for it. Has nothing to do with an App Store where you must pay for ridiculously necessary applications that didn't come with the phone.

No iPod, no sale? Huh? You need help.

Edit: By no iPod I assume you mean it wasn't made by Apple as it does have a great music player in it. Then it is as I suspected, you saw the name 'Nokia' instead of 'Apple' and instantly dismissed it.
#2.8 LTD on 03 Dec 2008 - 02:53
Sacha said,
Seems you put it all down to the lousy OS (that you haven't tried yet -- touch symbian).

Every platform keeps getting 'better and better' due to more applications being developed for it. Has nothing to do with an App Store where you must pay for ridiculously necessary applications that didn't come with the phone.

No iPod, no sale? Huh? You need help.

Edit: By no iPod I assume you mean it wasn't made by Apple as it does have a great music player in it. Then it is as I suspected, you saw the name 'Nokia' instead of 'Apple' and instantly dismissed it.


Yup, I put it all down to a lousy OS. It's Symbian, and Symbian aint great. At all.

I have no problem with it as a smartphone in and of itself. But as something being marketed to rival the iPhone?? It seems like an also-ran at this point.

And Palm is proof that not all platforms "keep getting better and better." Some companies out there put out absolute garbage. Nothing compelling, nothing interesting or captivating. Just more of the same. Most platforms suck. And since the iPhone was introduced, even more have that ignominious honour. It takes something like that to show just how far behind the industry is in terms of the nitty gritty, absolute fundmental USER EXPERIENCE. That's really all that matters. And when that isn't up to snuff, it affects and overshadows every other aspect of the device. You can shove an 8mp camera into a Palm or Motorola Q and make it 3G and give it WiFi, and it'll still be utter crap.

"Oh but LTD, these companies will come up with something entirely new and shake things up!!" The iPod has shown us that they *can* come up with something new . . . that will still suck.

The only saving grace here is that unlike the mp3 player industry earlier in this decade, the smartphone industry is relatively mature and has far greater ability to impress. I just think this latest Nokia attempt, like a lot of others, will be a swing and a miss. If I'm wrong, feel free to have your field day.
#2.9 CCRATA on 03 Dec 2008 - 03:06
You're right. The iPhone OS is great. How are those apps that can run in the background? Oh wait you can't. The only thing the iPhone OS has is a good browser. Other than that it is outclassed by Blackberry OS or Symbian in almost all respects.
#2.10 brent3000 on 03 Dec 2008 - 08:31
LTD said,
Lousy OS, no App Store, no iPod, no sale. Most notably, lousy OS. Simply put, Apple has unmercifully and utterly outclassed an entire industry. And in two years the industry still hasn't caught up.

Of course, YMMV.

Do u ever listen to your self... No ipod... NO **** its a phone... Im sure its got some form of media player on it... and i bet you the battery is replaceable

Question is... Can you replace your battery...
#2.11 /- Razorfold on 03 Dec 2008 - 08:38
How is the iphone OS good? It doesn't even have copy and paste or true background task (the only one that can run in the background is music).

Symbian is used on the majority of phones btw.

Who gives a crap about the app store? Windows mobile and symbian both support easy installation of files...all it requires is a google search and drag and drop.

It takes something like that to show just how far behind the industry is in terms of the nitty gritty, absolute fundmental USER EXPERIENCE.


User experience? Or great marketing team. People seem to think that the iphone has revolutionized the phone and no other phone in the world has anything similar. Sadly the iphone does nothing new, or nothing different. Infact many phones have what the iphone does, and a good majority have better.

#2.12 brent3000 on 03 Dec 2008 - 08:51
iPod, iPhone or apple in general... Its just a name... Nothing more nothiing new...

Apple is just another company with a massive marketing budget and insane markups.... Thats about it...

Though i though they were the 1st phone with multi touch??? correct me if im wrong... Yet again i like to use 1 hand to support the phone and the other to use the phone... Thats just me though
#2.13 QuarterSwede on 03 Dec 2008 - 23:40
brent3000 said,
iPod, iPhone or apple in general... Its just a name... Nothing more nothiing new...

Apple is just another company with a massive marketing budget and insane markups.... Thats about it...

Though i though they were the 1st phone with multi touch??? correct me if im wrong... Yet again i like to use 1 hand to support the phone and the other to use the phone... Thats just me though

The best thing about multi-touch is that it's bloody accurate and fast, at least in my use. I have to use a regular touch screen Windows mobile OS at work ALL DAY and it's pure and utter garbage. The system itself is nice (thanks to my companies devs NOT Microsoft), it's just that it doesn't work half the time because it has a crappy wifi driver and the touch screen is pathetic. It constantly misreads what I, and most of the employees using it, intend to do (tap vs select, etc.).

I'm gonna have to agree with LTD on this one. I LOVE my iPhone. Every other phone I've used in the past has had a crap interface that was powerful but confusing and difficult to use. The only phone that has come close is my old SE. It's interface was very easy to use and navigate but it was sluggish thanks to it being written in java (my wife's new SE speeds things up). The iPhone ups it one and is quite quick to use and has apps that I actually use daily.

People constantly forget that Apple writes software and OS's that are easy to use and powerful under the hood just not on the surface. Jailbreak an iPhone and tell me it can't do what any other phone does (including background processes).

Also, I have yet to buy a replacement battery for any phone I've owned*. Why? because by the time the battery doesn't hold a charge my contract has expired and I just re-up with a new subsidized phone. The next time I fully plan on doing this with whatever current iPhone is out. It's really been that great an experience for me.

One more thing. As far as I know there is no integration with a PC counterpart (or hardware) like the iPhone has with iTunes and it's dock connector. One of my favorite things about the iPhone is that I don't have to carry CD's or another mp3 player in the car with me anymore. I get in and connect it to my Pioneer head unit via dock connector so I can listen to music off of the iPhone and control it from my remote. I LOVE that integration. I also love how I can control my home stereo (theater) with the remote app on the iPhone through iTunes and an Airport Express.

I'll deal with it's current shortcomings (mostly solvable through firmware [OS] updates) because it's simplified my tech life so much.

*I understand that some people really do need extra batteries. They're just in a small minority.


Last edited by QuarterSwede on 03 Dec 2008 - 23:52
#2.14 /- Razorfold on 04 Dec 2008 - 04:35
QuarterSwede said,
The best thing about multi-touch is that it's bloody accurate and fast, at least in my use. I have to use a regular touch screen Windows mobile OS at work ALL DAY and it's pure and utter garbage. The system itself is nice (thanks to my companies devs NOT Microsoft), it's just that it doesn't work half the time because it has a crappy wifi driver and the touch screen is pathetic. It constantly misreads what I, and most of the employees using it, intend to do (tap vs select, etc.).

I'm gonna have to agree with LTD on this one. I LOVE my iPhone. Every other phone I've used in the past has had a crap interface that was powerful but confusing and difficult to use. The only phone that has come close is my old SE. It's interface was very easy to use and navigate but it was sluggish thanks to it being written in java (my wife's new SE speeds things up). The iPhone ups it one and is quite quick to use and has apps that I actually use daily.

People constantly forget that Apple writes software and OS's that are easy to use and powerful under the hood just not on the surface. Jailbreak an iPhone and tell me it can't do what any other phone does (including background processes).

Also, I have yet to buy a replacement battery for any phone I've owned*. Why? because by the time the battery doesn't hold a charge my contract has expired and I just re-up with a new subsidized phone. The next time I fully plan on doing this with whatever current iPhone is out. It's really been that great an experience for me.

One more thing. As far as I know there is no integration with a PC counterpart (or hardware) like the iPhone has with iTunes and it's dock connector. One of my favorite things about the iPhone is that I don't have to carry CD's or another mp3 player in the car with me anymore. I get in and connect it to my Pioneer head unit via dock connector so I can listen to music off of the iPhone and control it from my remote. I LOVE that integration. I also love how I can control my home stereo (theater) with the remote app on the iPhone through iTunes and an Airport Express.

I'll deal with it's current shortcomings (mostly solvable through firmware [OS] updates) because it's simplified my tech life so much.

*I understand that some people really do need extra batteries. They're just in a small minority.


Yes because wifi drivers and crappy touchscreen is the fault of microsoft or the windows os?

You do know its the responsibility of the phone manufacturer, NOT MICROSOFT, to make the drivers and the touchscreens yeh?
#3 Hidr0 on 03 Dec 2008 - 00:35
ill buy this one!... love it!
#4 The Tjalian on 03 Dec 2008 - 00:51
As long as it doesn't lag like the N95 does, I'll be happy.
(2 replies) #5 Archangel Tyrael on 03 Dec 2008 - 01:11
the UI looks very messy...
#5.1 Sacha on 03 Dec 2008 - 03:06
Checkout the interface in this video: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=U-6YcXoRDG0
It's different to the messy one in article.
They show the interface after 2:23 in the video.

Edit: She shows you can customise it to look like the one in article though. On second thought it is still messy but I guess it atleast shows useful information.

Last edited by Sacha on 03 Dec 2008 - 03:24
#5.2 brent3000 on 03 Dec 2008 - 10:22
Thx for that vid... was a good watch... Though i didnt like how the screen goes black when it changed from port to lan...
(5 replies) #6 +Futur1sm on 03 Dec 2008 - 01:35
I want Nokia to make with 8MP camera like most other manufacturers (Apple notably exc.) already
#6.1 Sacha on 03 Dec 2008 - 02:18
The 8MP cameras as seen by companies like Sony (C905) and Samsung's latest offerings are duds. Problem being they have the same sensor size as 5MP cameras and so only offer the same quality. You get a very noisy picture when taking 8MP shots.

You can search for image comparison reviews that show side by side images.

The increase from 5 to 8 is purely for marketing reasons and will not make your images any nicer.
#6.2 +Futur1sm on 03 Dec 2008 - 02:24
That's a shame, marketing gimmicks annoy me.
I wanted an N96 but maybe it's better to wait for the N97 now hmm
#6.3 XerXis on 03 Dec 2008 - 10:13
Futur1sm said,
That's a shame, marketing gimmicks annoy me.
I wanted an N96 but maybe it's better to wait for the N97 now hmm


why? What's the fascination with the megapixels, the lens those things have is horrible, that's all that matters.
#6.4 roadwarrior on 03 Dec 2008 - 16:37
More megapixels does not always make for better pictures, it simply makes BIGGER pictures. Why take a picture that is larger than the screen size of your computer, especially on a phone? Are you planning on making poster prints of your pictures?
#6.5 QuarterSwede on 03 Dec 2008 - 23:41
What we need is a phone with a Digic III (Canon) chip in it and a glass lens (no matter how small). THEN your pictures will look great.
(2 replies) #7 ThePitt on 03 Dec 2008 - 02:20
ugly and slow phone... A typical nokia.
#7.1 Sacha on 03 Dec 2008 - 02:30
Ugly sure but slow? How do you how fast it is? As far as I know they haven't told anyone the processor yet?

Edit: Nevermind I see that there are youtube videos!

Edit2: Though it seems you haven't seen these youtube videos. Check out http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=U-6YcXoRDG0 the black n97 shown at 2:23. It looks decent and has a nice interface (not the same as the one shown in article).

Last edited by Sacha on 03 Dec 2008 - 03:05
#7.2 Faisal Islam on 03 Dec 2008 - 03:57
+100

I agree with u.
Slow. Very Slow. Windows Mobile is far better.
(2 replies) #8 Amano on 03 Dec 2008 - 03:09
Nokia + Symbian = Rocks!
#8.1 Faisal Islam on 03 Dec 2008 - 03:57
Nokia + Symbian = Slow
#8.2 Amano on 03 Dec 2008 - 06:14
Faisal Islam said,
Nokia + Symbian = Slow

Stay away of it. Leave it for me!
#9 gianpan on 03 Dec 2008 - 06:50
looks cool, I won't compare it to the iPhone (i've got an iphone 3g factory unlocked) as iPhone was first realased like a year before this, so it's 1 year old tech now. I bet the new iPhone will be much better. All we need is a 4-5mp camera, copy-paste, some multi-tasking and more RAM (plus swap space).
(2 replies) #10 barteh on 03 Dec 2008 - 07:40
are you able to download/install your own apps like you can with the iphone?
#10.1 SVG on 03 Dec 2008 - 07:56
yes
#10.2 Unplugged on 03 Dec 2008 - 08:07
Yup you always have been able too.

Your free to buy them where you like as well and install what you like without having to Jailbreak the phone. This means the prices are not overinflated because someone is skimming off the top and application vendors can do what they like rather than being bitch slapped by apple for doing something "bad" and having the app pulled.
(1 reply) #11 Albert on 03 Dec 2008 - 07:48
hey, nokia, don't tell me about your so-called freaking flagship n97, if you can't even fix the current sinking "flagship" of n96. unless you can fix the ****ty problems on the n96, it is going to be my first and last piece of anything with the junky nokia brand on it, regardless of how good your marketing team are in lying to your customer.
#11.1 Unplugged on 03 Dec 2008 - 08:11
lol the N96 was nothing but a stop gap phone put out to shut people up why they worked on their touch ui.

The same as one of the reasons the 5800 is so cheap so they can identify problems with said ui before they release it in a model which will no doubt sell like the clappers. The ffat that the N97 is going to take 6 months to come to market and wont be mainstream and out on most networks until the end of July pretty much says this is its a poor timeline on Nokias part.

In 6 months time most people would have got bored waiting.
#12 SVG on 03 Dec 2008 - 08:02
I guess iPhones sell in US alone cuz ppl there buy anything.. I mean come on RAZR was at the top spot? That phone didn't even come with memory initially but just cuz it was sleek? iPhone doesn't have at least half the features even the average Nokia Smartphone has and touchscreen is just bull**** IMO.. Typing long text msgs or mails etc is plain horrible with the touchscreen.. For me Features > Looks (Flaunt value and other crap)
#13 badblood on 03 Dec 2008 - 08:43
I like the look of this, but cost and OS put me off it. I'll be honest, I've only ever used Winodws Mobile, so it's what I'm used to. I've always been tempted by the iPhone, but couldn't be bothered with it - my k800i is fine for me. I wouldn't be surprised if a Windows Mobile version popped up at some point. Or if someone is able to hack Windows Mobile to work on the phone!
#14 tiagosilva29 on 03 Dec 2008 - 10:43
Free Nokia N97, courtesy of lylesback2!
(3 replies) #15 mclaren05 on 03 Dec 2008 - 12:11
Now THIS could be the iPhone killer

Im gonna get this or wait till the price goes down.
#15.1 QuarterSwede on 03 Dec 2008 - 23:44
mclaren05 said,
Now THIS could be the iPhone killer

Im gonna get this or wait till the price goes down.

It won't be. In order to be you have to think outside of the box like Apple did with the iPhone. You can't create a killer that does similar things in a similar way unless you price is waaaaaay below the current market leader. Have you checked out how expensive the N97 is? It makes the iPhone look cheap.
#15.2 mclaren05 on 04 Dec 2008 - 01:18
QuarterSwede said,
mclaren05 said,
Now THIS could be the iPhone killer

Im gonna get this or wait till the price goes down.

It won't be. In order to be you have to think outside of the box like Apple did with the iPhone. You can't create a killer that does similar things in a similar way unless you price is waaaaaay below the current market leader. Have you checked out how expensive the N97 is? It makes the iPhone look cheap.

Oh my sorry.

Im not the type of guy that buys a cheap iPhone that does not send MMS.

N97 FTW.
#15.3 /- Razorfold on 04 Dec 2008 - 04:42
QuarterSwede said,
mclaren05 said,
Now THIS could be the iPhone killer

Im gonna get this or wait till the price goes down.

It won't be. In order to be you have to think outside of the box like Apple did with the iPhone. You can't create a killer that does similar things in a similar way unless you price is waaaaaay below the current market leader. Have you checked out how expensive the N97 is? It makes the iPhone look cheap.


N97 costs $695 without any plan. Iphone costs between $550-900 (depending on 2g/3g and where you get it from) without any plan.

So?

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