Windows 7 *is* MinWin

Windows 7 is MinWin

Owen Williams on 03 December 2008 - 21:27 · 21 comments & 10772 views

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A lot of people assume that MinWin is a Microsoft effort to completely rewrite the Windows Kernel from scratch. That may be based on earlier (limited) explanations about what it does, or it may have a lot to do with people assuming, due to people's efforts with open source software, that rewriting the kernel will solve all of Windows problems. Well, Mark Russinovich, Microsoft Technical Fellow and guru of all things NT Kernel, attempts to set the record straight in a 45 minute video from Channel 9. Microsoft also explains that "it *is* indeed in Windows 7."

News source: Windows-Now

Video: Microsoft Explains MinWin

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(3 replies) #1 markjensen on 03 Dec 2008 - 21:30

Ugh. "rewrite the kernel". Good way to set yourself back 7 years trying to patch the broken apps. Or, funnier yet, try to say "use emulation to provide backward compatibility".

From what I have seen as a Linux user, I like what I am hearing coming out of Microsoft on this new Windows 7's improved modularity.

#1.1 Owenw on 03 Dec 2008 - 22:38

markjensen said,

This has already been done. And it's not a rewrite!
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=705764&st=15 for further info

#1.2 markjensen on 03 Dec 2008 - 23:23

I was complaining about people that scream to "rewrite the kernel". I wasn't claiming they ought to. A total rewrite is a bad idea, in my opinion.

#1.3 smooth_criminal1990 on 04 Dec 2008 - 20:31

OK... we know Win 7 is based on Vista... read this from May

(14 replies) #2 theyarecomingforyou on 03 Dec 2008 - 21:39

Install Silverlight? No thanks.

#2.1 thealexweb on 03 Dec 2008 - 21:47

theyarecomingforyou said,

Install Silverlight? No thanks.

Well your gonna start missing out on things, flashs days really are numbered.

#2.2 Owenw on 03 Dec 2008 - 21:50

thealexweb said,

Well your gonna start missing out on things, flashs days really are numbered.

agreed. Silverlight's actually pretty good..

#2.3 felipecn on 03 Dec 2008 - 22:13

Owenw said,

agreed. Silverlight's actually pretty good..

True, but it's yet another bloatware installed. I even browse with Flash turned off on Opera and use FlashBlock on FireFox.
And there's no Silverlight for Linux. [Ok, there is Moonlight, but it is not usable yet]

#2.4 +TCLN Ryster on 03 Dec 2008 - 22:33

You obviously have no clue what the term "bloatware" actually means. Bloatware is a product that has grown very large and accumlated many features that most people dont want or need. Nero, the CD-writing app, is a great example of this. However the term doesn't apply to Silverlight.

Why do you browse with Flash turned off? You scared that that RAM and CPU of yours might actually be used?

#2.5 Owenw on 03 Dec 2008 - 22:38

TCLN Ryster said,

haha...Nero, so true. another good example is AVG 8.

Seriously though...what're you scared of?
Please don't tell me you're running 98

Last edited by Owenw on 03 Dec 2008 - 22:48

#2.6 Jaysteddy on 03 Dec 2008 - 23:26

TCLN Ryster said,

Bloatware is a product that has grown very large and accumlated many features that most people dont want or need. Nero, the CD-writing app, is a great example of this.

Nero burns CD's? Damn I use it to pick my socks in the morning with Nero Sock Chooser Deluxe.

#2.7 redeemed on 03 Dec 2008 - 23:43

Jaysteddy said,

Nero burns CD's? Damn I use it to pick my socks in the morning with Nero Sock Chooser Deluxe.

Pure gold right here!

#2.8 cyberdrone2000 on 04 Dec 2008 - 00:08

Jaysteddy said,

Nero burns CD's? Damn I use it to pick my socks in the morning with Nero Sock Chooser Deluxe.

Are you using version 7 or 8?
Nero has a free update for version 7 because the sock pattern randomizer tends to prefer socks with stripes rather than socks without.

Also, if you like using Nero Sock Chooser 7, you might be interested to know that version 8 includes Nero Outfit Catalog Pro that connects to an online database to ensure you never choose what your friends are wearing.

Me, personally, I only really use Nero Xpert Chef Express, for the tasty, tasty dinners. I wish it was a stand alone product.... *sigh*

#2.9 plastikaa on 04 Dec 2008 - 05:49

Last time I used Nero... either I made a mistake, or Nero accidentally ran Coffee Coaster Creater instead of the cd burner.

#2.10 markjensen on 04 Dec 2008 - 11:55

TCLN Ryster said,

Why do you browse with Flash turned off? You scared that that RAM and CPU of yours might actually be used?

I use flash block when I browse because of the obnoxious visuals of dumb ads. And the really asinine ads use sound.

Not sure why the person you were asking blocks flash, but that's my reason.

#2.11 felipecn on 04 Dec 2008 - 13:01

TCLN Ryster said,

For me, anything that's not needed is a bloatware. And almost everything that uses Flash this days can be done with JavaScript, and JS is way faster than Flash. And Silverlight isn't too different.
And the Linux version of Flash eats a lot of CPU. Flash 10 improved a lot, but not enough.

#2.12 qdr on 04 Dec 2008 - 15:35

felipecn said,

You don't watch Por.. I mean YouTube?

I use FlashBlock too. I don't have good PC, and mostly I use Linux. BTW I have noticed that Flash is faster on Windows than it's on Linux.(?)

Last edited by qdr on 04 Dec 2008 - 15:42

#2.13 felipecn on 05 Dec 2008 - 18:24

qdr said,

You don't watch Por.. I mean YouTube?

I use FlashBlock too. I don't have good PC, and mostly I use Linux. BTW I have noticed that Flash is faster on Windows than it's on Linux.(?)

I can watch RedYouTube videos with FlashBlock, i just click on the play button and it loads Flash [And that's the only use for Flash that i don't have anything against]

And the Windows version of Flash Player is way better than the Linux one, for sure.

#2.14 Skwerl on 08 Dec 2008 - 18:21

felipecn said,

Bloat! Bloaty! Bloat! Bloat! Parrots repeat whatever they hear, but they don't know what they're saying. Bloat!

#3 Owenw on 04 Dec 2008 - 00:22

bahaha

#4 sorlag on 05 Dec 2008 - 13:33

"It is fully bootable, 25-40MB of disk space"
Wow... if i look at the current size and that i'l never use most of the components/features/drivers included.

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