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Chaks   on 07 January 2009 - 22:31 · 53 comments & 14337 views

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Just as many are waiting for the Windows 7 beta to be announced at CES, we have a Microsoft blog saying its available on MSDN!

MSDN subscribers should get hold of Windows 7 beta shortly and keys are being posted to MSDN and TechNet accounts at the moment. Ballmer is expected to announce the availability initially to TechNet and MSDN customers only with a public beta to follow by the end of the week.

If you are a MSDN subscriber, can you see Windows 7 listed in there already?

Edit: The build is now available on MSDN and TechNet and will be available to the public on Friday 9th January.

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(1 reply) #1 timmmay on 07 Jan 2009 - 22:40
Not on my MSDN login (MSDN Pro)...yet
#1.1 _tux_ on 07 Jan 2009 - 22:43
timmmay said,
Not on my MSDN login (MSDN Pro)...yet


Removed.

Last edited by shockz on 08 Jan 2009 - 06:30
#2 +littleneutrino on 07 Jan 2009 - 22:42
neither mine
#3 acrophile on 07 Jan 2009 - 22:59
ditto... not on Pro or Team editions... maybe you need to be on French MSDN.
(1 reply) #4 iLinK on 07 Jan 2009 - 23:01
Actually it says: "La béta de Windows 7 disponible sur MSDN
C'est cette nuit!" == Win7 beta on MSDN, tonight.

It doesn't say it's already available, just saying it's expected tonight.
#4.1 acrophile on 07 Jan 2009 - 23:05
heh, I totally overlooked that... 4 years of French in high school... errr... I guess that was a looong time ago though.
#5 Gersson on 07 Jan 2009 - 23:13
ok, I was about to hyperventilate because I imaged other nerds everywhere getting theirs and not me :-P
Not on MSDN or Technet (yet)

I was tempted to get the new x64 torrent but I'll wait to get the official, fast x64 version.
#6 kiddingguy on 07 Jan 2009 - 23:20
any system requirements already known?
#7 +Fabian- on 07 Jan 2009 - 23:52
Not on my MSDN yet (Volume License)
#8 TruckWEB on 08 Jan 2009 - 00:26
Not on my MSDN....
#9 nDrg on 08 Jan 2009 - 00:28
The "Proper" 64bit torrent is out, reliable enough to install.
#10 Garak0410 on 08 Jan 2009 - 01:31
not on mine yet either...
#11 jasondefaoite on 08 Jan 2009 - 01:39
Not on mine (VL), and I also don't see the product keys there either.
#12 +Frazell Thomas on 08 Jan 2009 - 01:45
Easy way to check if it is on MSDN is to follow the MSDN New Downloads RSS Feed.

It is updated programatically with the site.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subscripti...n-downloads.rss
#13 C-Squarez on 08 Jan 2009 - 01:50
Damn it, hurry up! I have not touched it on torrent because I was waiting for it to hit MSDN.
#14 seb5150 on 08 Jan 2009 - 02:20
Nothing yet on my VL account. :-(
(1 reply) #15 +chorpeac on 08 Jan 2009 - 02:45
it is on my msdn now!
#15.1 Garak0410 on 08 Jan 2009 - 02:46
Under OSes?
#16 +chorpeac on 08 Jan 2009 - 02:47
Yeah it says windows 7, but when I click on it there is nothing listed yet
#17 brend_b on 08 Jan 2009 - 02:50
I have Windows 7 Beta downloads and Keys!!
#18 +chorpeac on 08 Jan 2009 - 02:52
got the keys, but still no download
#19 +Frazell Thomas on 08 Jan 2009 - 02:53
Downloading now! It is on MSDN!
#20 +chorpeac on 08 Jan 2009 - 02:55
Got it, downloading now
#21 timmmay on 08 Jan 2009 - 02:55
gogogogogo

*downloads now*
#22 Steven77 on 08 Jan 2009 - 03:02
Ok so is it still 7000???

No MSDN here Just have to wait till friday for a key i guess!
#23 Garak0410 on 08 Jan 2009 - 03:02
yep...downloading now! Technet!
(1 reply) #24 RealFduch on 08 Jan 2009 - 03:05
What's the exact size of the ISO?
#24.1 sweethip on 08 Jan 2009 - 03:12
x86 - en_windows_7_beta_dvd_x86_x15-29073.iso - 2,497.48 (MB)
x64 - en_windows_7_beta_dvd_x64_x15-29074.iso - 3,230.10 (MB)
#25 Skwerl on 08 Jan 2009 - 04:02
For those of you that are interested, here are the release notes from MSDN.

Accessibility
Microsoft Narrator does not read information from the command line properly. This issue may also affect non-Microsoft screen reader applications.
To correct this, always run the command prompt with administrator privileges.

Apple iTunes
This issue only applies to 64-bit editions of Windows 7.
If you attempt to download and install Apple iTunes, the 32-bit version will be installed instead of the 64-bit version. This will prevent syncing with iPhone.
To avoid this, install the 64-bit version from the following location: http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/itu...ndows64bit.html

Backup
� When you attempt to restore files backed up from a Windows 7 computer to a Windows Vista� computer using the Restore wizard on the Windows Vista computer, the restoration fails.
To work around this, in the location where the backup file is stored, locate the Mediaid.bin file, which is in inside a directory that has the same name as the computer. Move the Mediaid.bin file up one level, so that it is at the same level as the directory with the same name as the computer, but not inside it.
� If you attempt to use a system image backup as a restore point, System Restore will stop responding.
To avoid this, do not choose system image backup as a restore point. To ensure that you are not using a system image backup, in the System Restore wizard, check the Type column and confirm that the backup type is something other than Backup.
If this has already occurred, restart System Restore and attempt to restore from another restore point that is not a system image backup.
� If you create a system image backup using the Windows Backup wizard and then either change the disk layout on the system or add new hardware, you will not be able to re-image the computer using the system image backup.
To avoid this, use Create a system image in the Backup and Restore control panel (if available in the edition you are using) to create the system image backup instead of the Windows Backup wizard.
If this has already occurred, there is no workaround other than to mount a virtual hard disk for the latest backup and attempt to retrieve user data from it.

BitLocker Drive Encryption
BitLocker Drive Encryption is not supported on drives that use the extended file allocation table (exFAT) file system. Use BitLocker Drive Encryption with drives formatted with FAT or FAT32 instead.

DirectAccess
In certain editions of Windows 7, configuring the Name Resolution Policy Table for DirectAccess can cause the computer to stop responding and repeatedly restart.
If this occurs, delete the Name Resolution Policy table from the computer. There is no other workaround at this time.

Internet Explorer 8
� If you attempt to print a PDF document from the browser using the Adobe� Reader� plug-in, the operation fails.
To avoid this, save the PDF document to disk, and then open and print it using the standalone Adobe Reader, Adobe Acrobat, or any application capable of viewing and printing PDF files.
� Feeds (such as RSS or Atom) may not update properly in the background.
To correct this, open a command prompt and run the following commands:
msfeedssync disable
for /f "tokens=3" %i in ('reg query hkcusoftwaremicrosoftfeeds /v synctask') do schtasks /delete /tn "%i"(If you receive an error, you can safely ignore it and proceed to the next command.)
reg delete hkcusoftwaremicrosoftfeeds /v synctask
msfeedssync enable
You can then confirm that the issue has been fixed by running the following command and confirming a result of SUCCESS:
for /f "tokens=3" %i in ('reg query hkcusoftwaremicrosoftfeeds /v synctask') do schtasks /run /tn "%i"
�

Language packs
In some editions of this Beta release, Windows Update will not show any language packs as available for this Beta release.
If your edition is affected by this issue, there is no workaround at this time.
Mobile broadband software
Some mobile broadband software does not install correctly and some devices are not detected or cannot connect to the Internet.
For a current list of devices known to connect to the Internet with this Beta release, as well as simple workarounds for other devices and software, please refer to http://blogs.technet.com/teamdhcp/archive/...s-not-work.aspx.

MP3 files
When MP3 files are added (either manually or automatically) to either the Windows Media Player or the Windows Media Center library, or if the file metadata is edited, several seconds of content may be permanently removed from the start of the file. This issue occurs when files contain thumbnails or other metadata of significant size before importing or editing them.
To avoid this, ensure that all MP3 files that may be accessed by a computer running Windows 7 (including those on removable media or network shares) are set to read-only. To do this, in Windows Explorer, find the files, right-click them, click the General tab, and then select the Read-only check box. Then back up all of the MP3 files prior to using Windows Media Player or Windows Media Center.
If some of your files have already been affected, you may be able to recover the data by using the Previous Versions feature. To do this, right-click the file name, click Properties, click the Previous Versions tab, and in the File Versions pane select the most recent previous version.

Power Management
In some editions, the computer is not configured by default to require a password upon resuming from the sleep state.
To correct this, use the Power Options control panel to enable the Prompt for Password on Resume setting.

Routing and remote access
� Only 64-bit Connection Manager profiles are supported; these profiles will not work with 32-bit operating systems. To create a 32-bit profile on a 32-bit client computer, use the Connection Manager Administration Kit.
� Users connected through a Virtual Private Network (VPN) that uses Internet Key Exchange version 2 will not be able to seamlessly switch the VPN connection from one network to another when they restart the computer. To correct this, the user should manually start the Routing and Remote Access (RRAS) Mobility Manager task before attempting to switch networks.
� The status of dialup multilink VPN connections shown in the View All Networks window is not accurate. To check the status of dialup multilink VPN connections, use the Network Connections control panel (ncpa.cpl) instead.
� If you use international characters for authentication credentials in a username for Password Authentication Protocol (PAP), Challenge-Handshake Authentication Protocol (CHAP), or Microsoft Challenge Handshake Authentication Protocol Version 2 (MS-CHAPv2), Network Policy Server (NPS) for Windows Server 2008 R2 is unable to authenticate the credentials. To avoid this issue, do not use international characters in a username for PAP, CHAP, or MS-CHAPv2. (Authentication works if you are using NPS for Windows Server 2008 R2).
Setup
The system will not prevent you from formatting the System partition. You will receive an error stating that the system partition cannot be formatted, but the operation will proceed anyway, with resulting data loss and the inability to boot the computer.
As you prepare your system, ensure that you do not format the System partition. If this has already occurred, use the Windows Recovery Environment.
Storage
If you upgrade to this Beta release, any favorite iSCSI target connections are not retained and the configuration information is lost, so that disks connected with the iSCSI initiator are no longer accessible.
To avoid this, note the configuration of your iSCSI-connected disks prior to upgrading to this Beta release, and then add the connections back to the iSCSI initiator once the upgrade is complete. If you use advanced connections with Challenge Handshake Authentication Protocol (CHAP) security, you should also note advanced setting information, including the CHAP secret.
If this has already occurred, reconnect to the iSCSI targets and mark them as favorite connections.

Video drivers
Systems which use XDDM drivers may completely stop responding in certain scenarios. The computer will not respond to CTRL+ALT+DELETE and you will have to cycle the power to restart the computer, with the attendant risk of loss of unsaved data.
Some activities which have been demonstrated to trigger this issue include, but are not limited to:
� Using Winsat.exe or using the Rate and improve your computer's performance tool.
� Changing multi-monitor configurations
� DVD or other video playback
To avoid this, do not use XDDM drivers, but find an appropriate WDDM driver instead. If your video chipset does not have a WDDM driver (such as the Intel 915), use a VGA driver or an GPU that supports WDDM drivers.
If this issue occurs at setup, either avoid unattended setup or uninstall the XDDM driver and use a VGA driver until setup is complete.

Windows Media Center
� Windows Media Center does not recognize certain ISDB-T or ISDB-S tuners because they lack the required Protected Broadcast Driver Architecture (PBDA) drivers.
Use only the tuners that are supplied with the computer by the original equipment manufacturer.
� Integrated Services Digital Broadcasting (ISDB) content does not play back on Windows Media Extender devices.
There is no workaround at this time.
� If you start a Windows Media Center session and do not press any keys, the screen saver will not activate.
To avoid this, select any item from the start screen.
� If you have recordings scheduled and the Windows Media Center enters the sleep state repeatedly, you may encounter a number of issues, such as a video overlay error when you attempt to watch live TV, no available disk space when you attempt to save files, and recordings deleted because of low disk space.
To avoid this, use Power Management to disable the sleep feature on the computer while Windows Media Center is running or if a recording is scheduled.
If this has already occurred, restart the computer and start live TV in Windows Media Center.
� If you have upgraded a Windows Vista computer to Windows 7, you may not be able to burn content to a DVD from Windows Media Center.
To correct this, use Regedit.exe to add the following registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionMedia CenterExtensibilityEntry Points{1beb699f-dc1e-41a7-a31a-d4b339d21f42} "AddIn"="SonicMCEPlugIn.SonicDiscWriter, SonicMCEBurnEngine,Culture=Neutral,Version=6.1.0.0,PublicKeyToken=31bf3856ad364e35"
� If you have upgraded either a Windows Media Center TV Pack 2008 computer or a computer running an earlier release of Windows 7 to this Beta release, using the Guide Search in Windows Media Center to search for Title, Keyword, Actor, or Director will return no results.
To correct this, reconfigure Task Scheduler.
To reconfigure Task Scheduler
1. Exit Windows Media Center and start Task Scheduler by clicking Start, clicking Administrative Tools, and then clicking Task Scheduler.
2. In the Task Scheduler Library, point to Microsoft, point to Windows, and then point to Media Center.
3. In the middle pane, scroll through the list of Windows Media Center tasks to find RegisterSearch.
4. Right-click RegisterSearch and click Run.
5. Close Task Scheduler and wait a few minutes before attempting to use the Guide Search.
� If you attempt to use Windows Media Center immediately after installing this Beta release, you may encounter setup errors or playback failure or Windows Media Center may stop responding.
To avoid this, install the following update (either with Windows Update or directly from these links) before you use Windows Media Center.
For 32-bit editions of Windows 7: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...ba-67b859a242b7
For 64-bit editions of Windows 7: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...c8-5dc63d55626d

Windows Media Services 2008
Streaming Media Services technologies are not available in this Beta release. This includes the Remote Server Administration tools for Windows Media Services.
You should not upgrade the operating system on a Windows Vista computer that is a critical component of your streaming network infrastructure
Windows Search indexing
If you use a computer that has Windows Search enabled (Windows 7, Windows Vista, or Windows XP with Windows Search installed) and have chosen a custom index location that has a path name longer than 128 characters, the indexer will not start after you have upgraded the computer to this Beta release. Search functionality and some library views are affected.
To avoid this, move the index to a different location that has a path name less than 128 characters long before you install this Beta release as an upgrade.
If this has already occurred, use the Restore Defaults button on the Advanced Options pane of the Indexing Options control panel to reset the indexer.

Last edited by Skwerl on 08 Jan 2009 - 04:08
(1 reply) #26 jelpesao on 08 Jan 2009 - 04:03
Is it the same built as the one that was leaked?
#26.1 DaveLegg on 08 Jan 2009 - 04:07
jelpesao said,
Is it the same built as the one that was leaked?

Yes
#27 timmmay on 08 Jan 2009 - 04:10
Don't forget to download the Update KB961367 as well which fixes the MP3 corruption issue
#28 jelpesao on 08 Jan 2009 - 04:10
Okay, so no need to reinstalled then. Just have to use my key to activate it.
#29 devHead on 08 Jan 2009 - 04:16
It's on Technet also, with the update. There's also Windows Server 2008 R2 Beta!!
#30 nozen09 on 08 Jan 2009 - 04:24
when they release Windows 7 beta 1 to the public will they also give out Windows 7 key to the public to activate it or does it work differently?
#31 jelpesao on 08 Jan 2009 - 04:38
One thing I wish they gave us with this beta is RSAT for Windows 7. How can us admins really test it with out all our admin tools? Does anyone know if Win Server 2008 R2 Beta has any admin tools many we can move to Win 7?
(1 reply) #32 audacioustrash on 08 Jan 2009 - 04:45
Well, its in my technet now.

I am downloading it now.

#32.1 jme621 on 08 Jan 2009 - 05:18
audacioustrash said,
Well, its in my technet now.

I am downloading it now.


same here
(4 replies) #33 Skwerl on 08 Jan 2009 - 06:28
WOW!
I've always liked Vista, but I have to say that I am impressed with Windows 7. For those of you waiting to finish downloading, or awaiting the public beta, here are some of my thoughts regarding my first few minutes with it.
[*] It took 21 minutes between booting from the DVD to when I could use the start menu.
[*] All of my devices were installed except for a Pinnacle ditigal TV tuner which was picked up by Windows Update immediately after. I had no issues adding the machine to my domain.
[*] I use this machine solely as my home theater PC, so I was happy to see that it's a bit easier to change the DPI settings.
[*] Logging on and logging off is VERY fast!
[*] One of the first things I noticed is how much polish has been put on this OS. The startup animation is no longer a crappy progress bar, but some swirling balls of light that turn into a pulsating Windows logo. Goodbye 1999.
[*] The start button is very attractive, and the rest of the UI has a very nice, finished look to it.
[*] The new device manager is a big improvement.
[*] UAC feels sort of...missing. I know this will make a lot of people happy, but it makes me feel a ill at ease now that I know where to expect the notices and none pop up.
#33.1 tom5 on 08 Jan 2009 - 06:39
Is the official beta still an "ultimate" edition just like the one that leaked earlier?
#33.2 Skwerl on 08 Jan 2009 - 07:47
tom5 said,
Is the official beta still an "ultimate" edition just like the one that leaked earlier?


Yes. It installs Ultimate.
#33.3 tom5 on 08 Jan 2009 - 08:29
So according to this: http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/01/08/w...ased-to-testers - are there different editions (Home Premium and Ultimate) being released for testing to different groups of people or you can just choose which version to download, having both of them available?
#33.4 Skwerl on 08 Jan 2009 - 16:33
tom5 said,
So according to this: http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/01/08/w...ased-to-testers - are there different editions (Home Premium and Ultimate) being released for testing to different groups of people or you can just choose which version to download, having both of them available?


Well, Ultimate is what I ended up with from MSDN.
#34 Skwerl on 08 Jan 2009 - 07:52
Unfortunately, as in other versions of Windows, funky, odd things happen when you go jacking around with the DPI settings. If I set the DPI scaling higher than 150%, for example, my mouse pointer disappears in Media Center and playback doesn't look quite right. It appears that the desktop gadgets don't scale, and so even the Media Center desktop gadget is useless on a home theater PC. Microsoft still doesn't seem to understand that a lot of us rip our DVDs to AVI files rather than keeping the DVD structure. The new movie browser feature in Media Center is only useful if you rip the entire DVD rather than transcoding.
#35 jasondefaoite on 08 Jan 2009 - 11:05
Is the downloads section of MSDN down? The download button is greyed out, and now I also cannot get the Product License key. Gives an error.

Anyone else seeing this?
(1 reply) #36 wahoospa on 08 Jan 2009 - 12:43
I found it on MSDN but the download options is grayed out. Probably waiting for the official time for downloading to begin. How did you people find with keys get the keys for it? Please let me know. as I need the keys also.
#36.1 jasondefaoite on 08 Jan 2009 - 12:55
wahoospa said,
I found it on MSDN but the download options is grayed out. Probably waiting for the official time for downloading to begin. How did you people find with keys get the keys for it? Please let me know. as I need the keys also.


The download button grayed out isn't waiting for the official time. I downloaded it about 9 hours ago when it went live. But just checking for the keys now I see the download option is now grayed out. Might be they are overloaded.
#37 Crash.Override on 08 Jan 2009 - 12:45
Its on my as is Server 2008 R2 Beta.
(1 reply) #38 Airlink on 08 Jan 2009 - 13:52
So, what's the build number, people? Is it still build 7000?
#38.1 jasondefaoite on 08 Jan 2009 - 14:39
Airlink said,
So, what's the build number, people? Is it still build 7000?

Yeah its the same as the one on the torrents. The patch for the mp3 corruption problem is also on MSDN as a seperate download.
(2 replies) #39 paratrupr on 08 Jan 2009 - 16:49
Downloading just fine...just not able to request a product key. Anyone else having that problem?
#39.1 Slimy on 08 Jan 2009 - 17:58
paratrupr said,
Downloading just fine...just not able to request a product key. Anyone else having that problem?

http://arstechnica.com/journals/microsoft....s-working-on-it
#39.2 paratrupr on 08 Jan 2009 - 18:25
That is trippy...my post was 11:49am (EST) and that article was posted 11:50am CT.

Good find Slimy - Thanks!

EDIT: I just made the connection (Slimy = Emil Protalinski) duh...lol

Last edited by paratrupr on 08 Jan 2009 - 18:39

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