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Sean Bradford   on 14 January 2009 - 05:43, updated 15 January 2009 - 16:26 · 92 comments & 36455 views

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So now that we've all recovered from the CES 2009, everyone is back to business including the folks up in Redmond, WA. It has been confirmed that Microsoft has started rolling out another major update of Windows Live Hotmail, which includes POP access as discussed in my interview with Ryan Gavin and Dharmesh Mehta.

Last week we reported a rumour that Microsoft was about to offer POP3 access to Hotmail users at no extra charge.

Microsoft has confirmed the rumour via its Windows Live Wire blog today. POP3 access is now available to Hotmail users in the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, France, Japan, Spain, Germany, Italy, and the Netherlands. Microsoft plans to roll out POP3 access to more parts of the world later this year. You can find the settings below:
  • POP server: pop3.live.com
  • POP SSL required? Yes
  • User name: Your Windows Live ID, for example yourname@hotmail.com
  • Password: The password you usually use to sign in to Hotmail or Windows Live
  • SMTP server: smtp.live.com
  • Authentication required? Yes (this matches your POP username and password)
  • TLS/SSL required? Yes
Another new feature that is rolling out is "Quick Add". During Steve Ballmer's keynote, there was a short demo showing this new feature. So in case you missed the live stream, here we go.

Lets say that you're on vacation or a business trip and you just arrived to your destination. Your friends and family want to meet up later that night for dinner, but not everyone is familiar with the city. So you open Windows Live Hotmail and start preparing your e-mail with the time and place of your dinner affair, but you want to include the address and a link for directions. So you open up Quick Add while creating a new message (Screenshot).

Now you start your search for some nice restaurants for your affair. Once you've found your destination, you can either click "Insert" or "More Info". When you click "More Info" (Screenshot), you are brought to a Windows Live Search page. Once you've entered that page you will see a mapped location and some reviews if anyone has posted them. So now that you've picked your destination, you're ready to insert it into your e-mail by simply clicking "Insert" (Screenshot). So now you have the name, address, and more information ready for your friends and family.

That is only one scenario that this new feature will be able to do. Consumers will also be able to search for business listings, videos, and images. The beauty of QuickAdd is that it's automatically loaded when you open a New Message, located on the right side of the message pane.

Images courtesy of Jamie Thompson

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(2 replies) #1 PureLegend on 14 Jan 2009 - 06:35
I know someone who paid for Hotmail Plus for this functionality alone. Guess they'll be a bit ****ed now.

I also know someone who had to reluctantly switch to Gmail to get their email on their iPhone for free, which they weren't too pleased about. This is great news, but it should've happened a long time ago. And where's the IMAP?
#1.1 RebelSean on 14 Jan 2009 - 06:36
PureLegend said,
I know someone who paid for Hotmail Plus for this functionality alone. Guess they'll be a bit ****ed now.

I also know someone who had to reluctantly switch to Gmail to get their email on their iPhone for free, which they weren't too pleased about. This is great news, but it should've happened a long time ago. And where's the IMAP?


I agree, this is a day to rejoice for those avid Hotmail users. One thing at a time though, you know the routine .

Last edited by RebelSean on 14 Jan 2009 - 06:45
#1.2 Typhon on 14 Jan 2009 - 11:17
Yea a lot of the people I work for use msn hotmail and messenger. They will be happy about this.
#2 sn00pie on 14 Jan 2009 - 06:35
So no POP access for NA users yet?
(2 replies) #3 sn00pie on 14 Jan 2009 - 06:55
UK, Canada, Australia, France, Japan, Spain, Germany, Italy, and the Netherlands.

POP is live in these countries
#3.1 RebelSean on 14 Jan 2009 - 07:12
sn00pie said,
UK, Canada, Australia, France, Japan, Spain, Germany, Italy, and the Netherlands.

POP is live in these countries


Thanks for the information, article update .
#3.2 +Techno_Funky on 16 Jan 2009 - 08:37
RebelSean said,
sn00pie said,
UK, Canada, Australia, France, Japan, Spain, Germany, Italy, and the Netherlands.

POP is live in these countries


Thanks for the information, article update .


No India
(3 replies) #4 Deathray on 14 Jan 2009 - 07:04
If we setup POP access on our computer, will the messages still exist online as well?

I know with my ISP that this isn't the case, but I am hoping it is with Hotmail...
#4.1 RebelSean on 14 Jan 2009 - 07:11
Deathray said,
If we setup POP access on our computer, will the messages still exist online as well?

I know with my ISP that this isn't the case, but I am hoping it is with Hotmail...


As far as I know they will, as long as you don't delete them out of your inbox (I know this is the case when using Windows Live Mail Desktop, but then again that uses Delta Sync). You probably should test first before doing any major deleting.
#4.2 simsie on 14 Jan 2009 - 10:28
The deleting is because you've got "delete mail on server" checked as well in the account settings. The 'leave on server yet download' thing you're probably referring to is IMAP although it can be done with POP3 as well.

Having said that Hotmail may do what Gmail does which is move it to some sort of archive when you download/delete with POP3, I wouldn't know.
#4.3 bmaher on 14 Jan 2009 - 11:04
Yep, providing you tick the "leave a copy of message on server" box, it'll still be there.

It's not ideal though, as you end up with out of sync messageboxes, as deleting a message online wont change your mail client's copy.
(3 replies) #5 +M2Ys4U on 14 Jan 2009 - 07:12
IMAP > POP
#5.1 Memnochxx on 14 Jan 2009 - 07:39
Yeah really. "Hey guys, we support this outdated method of email access everybody else has for years now!"
#5.2 Jugalator on 14 Jan 2009 - 08:55
Memnochxx said,
Yeah really. "Hey guys, we support this outdated method of email access everybody else has for years now!"

... in select countries!
#5.3 +Shadrack on 15 Jan 2009 - 19:16
IMAP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> POP

Oh well. GMail ftw.
#6 thealexweb on 14 Jan 2009 - 08:06
Can I use this in Thunderbird without installing the Webmail add-on now? Guess it would work in Windows Mail now.
#7 sibot on 14 Jan 2009 - 08:16
My account's registered with US as my country of residence. When can I expect the services to be available to me? Is it possible to change the country and avail the benefit?
#8 stylemessiah on 14 Jan 2009 - 08:25
In Australia here, i dont have the POP Access button in my hotmail nav bar referenced in the story, but just tried it via thunderbird and it works, and well.

Found the server settings at:

http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com/blog/...ry?sa=946825847

At last i can run all my accounts through spamato
#9 MrChuang on 14 Jan 2009 - 08:52
Mac Mail now works perfectly without any programs like Macfreepops. Just open Mail and add a new account, choose Pop and enter the settings. Works for incoming and outgoing emails, finally!
(1 reply) #10 undu on 14 Jan 2009 - 08:52
Still no google chrome support?
#10.1 cJr. on 14 Jan 2009 - 13:38
The new version hasn't rolled out yet. It's only POP access at the moment.
#11 kiwi89 on 14 Jan 2009 - 09:56
Just tried it on my iphone... works like a charm. I live in aus btw.
(1 reply) #12 lylesback2 on 14 Jan 2009 - 10:28
very good news! been waiting to get mail on my iPhone forever
#12.1 PsykX on 15 Jan 2009 - 01:08
You just made me think about it. Argg it'll be so nice!!!
(7 replies) #13 Soldiers33 on 14 Jan 2009 - 10:46
so wot is the pop3 address? tryin to setup windows mail, and dont know wot tp type in for the pop3 server.
#13.1 jamesVault on 14 Jan 2009 - 12:50
in Windows Mail's wizard put a fake domain yourname@fake.com, then edit the new account with yourname@hotmail.com
#13.2 +Anarkii on 14 Jan 2009 - 12:51
pop3.live.com
#13.3 jamesVault on 14 Jan 2009 - 12:54
and smtp.live.com for smtp server
#13.4 vetMarshalus on 14 Jan 2009 - 14:41
Why use Windows Mail, when Windows Live Mail will work native with Hotmail?
#13.5 iamwhoiam on 15 Jan 2009 - 17:10
^ Outlook connects natively with Hotmail as well.
#13.6 Hani on 15 Jan 2009 - 19:58
should we change th default port numbers in windows mail?
#13.7 jamesVault on 16 Jan 2009 - 07:52
Hani said,
should we change th default port numbers in windows mail?


just select the 2 checkboxes "SSL" and the port numbers are changed automatically.
#14 Garf ! on 14 Jan 2009 - 11:41
A complete iPhone user now.

Just create a mail account, tap in your hotmail address and password. Then it warns you about being a Windows Live Plus subscriber. Click Save and it just works. Keeps the mail on the server by default.

The iPhone works out your server details automatically.

Also, I can still access my hotmail in Outlook. As my account goes back to 1998! I dont pay for this service too. Always a free user.
#15 leesmithg on 14 Jan 2009 - 13:12
Hopefully Microsoft made enough profit on restricting users like me (before) Microsoft purchased hotmail from using the full whack of services.

One question will this also include, msn, live, hotmail.co.uk and other non .com country suffix's?
#16 NPGMBR on 14 Jan 2009 - 13:58
This isn't Earth-shattering but it shows MS being a little more innovative than normal and thats a good thing. But there are lot of other changes I would like to see them make to Live Mail.
#17 zeke009 on 14 Jan 2009 - 14:32
So what features does POP access offer me over using Outlook Connector?
(1 reply) #18 +chorpeac on 14 Jan 2009 - 14:35
Can't wait for this service to be available in the US. It will bring Microsoft and Apple together a little closer, which benefits all of us with iPhones.
#18.1 robertwnielsen on 14 Jan 2009 - 17:24
I'm in Des Moines, IA USA, and have been accessing Hotmail through POP access for a couple of days!
(3 replies) #19 vetMarshalus on 14 Jan 2009 - 14:42
I'm still at a loss as to why they chose to roll out POP access but NOT secure IMAP!?
#19.1 Intelman on 14 Jan 2009 - 15:53
Because no Microsoft client works well with IMAP. The performance of outlook and IMAP is lame, as is Live Mail (which is better).

It'd be kind of embarassing for their own employees to prefer Thunderbird to their apps because IMAP blows on theirs.
#19.2 +Shadrack on 16 Jan 2009 - 07:11
Intelman said,
Because no Microsoft client works well with IMAP. The performance of outlook and IMAP is lame, as is Live Mail (which is better).

It'd be kind of embarassing for their own employees to prefer Thunderbird to their apps because IMAP blows on theirs.


I left Thunderbird for Windows Live Mail for my IMAP accounts. Seems to perform pretty well, and I like the layout a lot more than Thunderbird or Opera. I tried setting up IMAP on Outlook 2003 and Outlook 2007, and both were horribly laggy.
#19.3 +Brandon Live on 16 Jan 2009 - 07:44
Intelman said,
Because no Microsoft client works well with IMAP. The performance of outlook and IMAP is lame, as is Live Mail (which is better).

It'd be kind of embarassing for their own employees to prefer Thunderbird to their apps because IMAP blows on theirs.


Umm, they already have the Hotmail Connector for Outlook that works way better than POP or IMAP.
#20 Tamilboy86 on 14 Jan 2009 - 15:17
Doesn't work on my ipod touch 2nd gen. Im from Denmark, so I think I have to wait
#21 sn00pie on 14 Jan 2009 - 22:11
Works great with Mac Mail now! Thank you Microsoft!
#22 PsykX on 15 Jan 2009 - 01:07
It was about time!!!!!!!

That news made my day. I'm currently downloading 6326 emails from my two email accounts

I'll finally be able to create folders, delete stuff live, etc. etc. I guess, in Mail.app

Thumbs up!
(3 replies) #23 vetbangbang023 on 15 Jan 2009 - 16:39
No support in the US? Odd.
#23.1 creamhackered on 15 Jan 2009 - 16:55
Very odd.
#23.2 robertwnielsen on 15 Jan 2009 - 18:33
bangbang023 and creamhackered,

Don't know where you guys are, but I'm in Urbandale, IA USA, and I've used POP3 access on 3 Hotmail accounts for the past couple days....works like a charm!
#23.3 simon360 on 15 Jan 2009 - 20:42
How does it feel to know Canada got something before you?

Only fair tbh.
(1 reply) #24 +Mercellus on 15 Jan 2009 - 16:43
Ooh, all of the people who paid for Windows Live Hotmail Plus must be steaming right now.
#24.1 Steven77 on 15 Jan 2009 - 18:05
I'd be furious!
#25 Rudy on 15 Jan 2009 - 16:48
can't wait to try it out in mac mail
(2 replies) #26 SH3K0 on 15 Jan 2009 - 16:53
Oh I am not happy at all. I just got the bloody Plus subscription the other month!
#26.1 leesmithg on 16 Jan 2009 - 07:29
Ask for a refund, I am sure they will give it to you.

It works fine on hotmail.co.uk
#26.2 Quikboy on 16 Jan 2009 - 21:19
They probably have plans for IMAP for Plus users, or even more upgrades.
#27 Kevin. on 15 Jan 2009 - 17:14
Hooray! It's about time hotmail offers POP3 access!
#28 kainashi on 15 Jan 2009 - 17:27
shame my hotmail is my junk email account now.
#29 +Ely on 15 Jan 2009 - 17:27
I've had pop3 in HotMail for years with the Plus package but still this is good news.
(1 reply) #30 tripleXit on 15 Jan 2009 - 17:31
Guys, hotmail had pop3 access in the past for free. Then M$ took it away simply so they could charge people for it as an extra feature. I used to check my hotmail using outlook, it was pretty convenient. I may start using it again, but I don't use hotmail as much anymore cause it's gotten slower over the years (accessing the actual mailbox through the web browser that is).
#30.1 +Brandon Live on 16 Jan 2009 - 07:42
No, hotmail never had POP3 access for free. For a short time a 3rd party offered it, but that didn't last long.
(2 replies) #31 _dandy_ on 15 Jan 2009 - 17:38
Come on, Yahoo, now do the same to show you have as much value.

Or, at the very least, let us multi-select messages for forwarding...
#31.1 Steven77 on 15 Jan 2009 - 18:06
Unfortunately i dont think yahoo has that much value. In 5 years the namesake will still be around, but yahoo as we know it i believe will be long gone.
#31.2 opensuse on 15 Jan 2009 - 20:54
You can do all that and a lot more using Zimbra for your yahoo account.
(2 replies) #32 warwagon on 15 Jan 2009 - 17:48
I love pop3 access over IMAP. This way I have a backup of all my emails on my pc and in the cloud. With IMAP if the server takes a crap for some unknown reason your screwed. With Pop3 in the same scenario you would still have a backup on your pc.
#32.1 +Brandon Live on 16 Jan 2009 - 07:43
warwagon said,
I love pop3 access over IMAP. This way I have a backup of all my emails on my pc and in the cloud. With IMAP if the server takes a crap for some unknown reason your screwed. With Pop3 in the same scenario you would still have a backup on your pc.


Err, you can do that with IMAP too... I'm pretty sure Outlook's default works that way (it certainly does for me).
#32.2 +Shadrack on 16 Jan 2009 - 16:01
Brandon Live said,
Err, you can do that with IMAP too... I'm pretty sure Outlook's default works that way (it certainly does for me).


Most email clients allow you to copy the messages in a local folder that is not sync. with the server. You bring up a good point...and...Gmail offers POP3 AND IMAP access (2 stones, 1 bird lol?)...ah well... I may backup my messages right now .
(2 replies) #33 M. Seth on 15 Jan 2009 - 17:53
Does this pop3 access finally allow me to forward my live account to my gmail? This would allow me to consolidate all my email addresses into one spot.
#33.1 semifamous on 15 Jan 2009 - 18:04
You can set up Gmail to check your Hotmail account now. so that it shows up in your Gmail inbox.
#33.2 Silverskull on 15 Jan 2009 - 21:10
Yeah, email forwarding has been in Hotmail for as long as I can remember.
(1 reply) #34 +shift. on 15 Jan 2009 - 17:54
I would love to have IMAP as well though. I don't use POP3
#34.1 Mohan Ram on 15 Jan 2009 - 18:54
Same here.
#35 tiagosilva29 on 15 Jan 2009 - 18:56
I think that Ballmer is on crack or something. What the **** is happening to Microsoft?
(1 reply) #36 technikal on 15 Jan 2009 - 21:21
/plugs into outlook
#36.1 +Brandon Live on 16 Jan 2009 - 07:44
The Hotmail Connector is a way better option for Outlook users. It goes through MAPI and basically has the same features as Exchange.
(2 replies) #37 keybcoder on 15 Jan 2009 - 21:31
It does not work with iPhone. I was trying both of my accounts and it said that i need Hotmail Plus. Does anyone here got it to work with iPhone or iPod touch?!?!?
#37.1 creamhackered on 15 Jan 2009 - 23:13
I got it working on iPhone u sure you are not using a US account?
#37.2 BeerBro on 16 Jan 2009 - 00:38
creamhackered said,
I got it working on iPhone u sure you are not using a US account?


even when it says it needs Hotmail Plus, just ignore it and continue. then go and open the Mail app, and it'll try connect and verify your account, which will then work.
#38 Lord Zog on 15 Jan 2009 - 22:12
Works great on the Blackberry! Woot!
(1 reply) #39 Titoist on 15 Jan 2009 - 22:36
Unfortunately this does not work on Windows Mail.
#39.1 Quikboy on 16 Jan 2009 - 20:15
Use Windows Live Mail? It's much better than Windows Mail...
#40 Aaron44126 on 16 Jan 2009 - 01:35
Anyone know how this deals with Junk mail? Does mail classified as junk by Hotmail come down POP3? I'd hate to have to remember to check the Hotmail web interface to see if it misclassified anything...
#41 mayamaniac on 16 Jan 2009 - 04:22
come on yahoo, free pop3 please.
#42 sibot on 16 Jan 2009 - 08:32
#43 MrA on 16 Jan 2009 - 09:57
Yawn... 1999 called, they want their protocol back. I'll say something nice when they implement IMAP.
#44 psreloaded on 16 Jan 2009 - 20:15
Actually yahoo offers free POP3 access in India and some other countries. I use it without any hassle but its not available in most countries...
#45 HalcyonX12 on 17 Jan 2009 - 17:21
Bah, they'll just remove it again later on anyway. The first hit's free kids!
#46 starless.bible.black on 17 Jan 2009 - 19:45
trying to set this up in The Bat. no luck so far. it connects, goes through tls handshake, connects to pop3 and then reports an error:
FETCH - Server reports error. The response is: -ERR user does not have POP3 access
is there a setting in my hm account in which I have to enable this?

edit1: arrgh, just tried another email client and get the same error. apparently not available in all parts of the US yet, certainly not in the part of flat Ohio I am trying from...

Last edited by starless.bible.black on 18 Jan 2009 - 19:13
#47 NeoSigma on 17 Jan 2009 - 20:22
Not to impressed. I like that I can check my email with my iPhone now like others, that's about it. I'm going to stick with using office outlook connector which uses IMAP in Outlook for your hotmail accounts. When they allow IMAP in Outlook without having to install that add-in, then I'll be happy.
#48 jamester64 on 18 Jan 2009 - 19:49
cant get this to work on iphone with usa account
#49 IGx89 on 19 Jan 2009 - 16:27
I have an old Hotmail account, and get "ERR user does not have pop3 access" when I try to do this :/
#50 reech on 19 Jan 2009 - 21:22
Am I being naughty by using my Gmail account to pull in my Hotmail mails? Somehow I feel... dirty
#51 LumpyCustard on 20 Jan 2009 - 10:59
You can only check mail every 15 minutes.... So not ultra great, but still better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

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