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Microsoft set to unveil MobileMe competitor next month

Tom Warren   on 19 January 2009 - 14:24 · 61 comments & 56801 views

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Microsoft is planning to unveil three new mobile services at the Mobile World Congress (MWC) in Barcelona next month. The software giant is aiming to move your mobile data into the cloud and rival Apple's MobileMe service.

Microsoft announced the Windows Azure platform in October at its professional developers conference and will be expanding its software + services platform with several new products. According to sources close to Microsoft, the company has been working on products codenamed SkyBox, SkyLine and SkyMarket. The final offerings are likely to be named under the Windows Live branding.

"SkyBox" is a service for users to sync a phones information with the web. Microsoft will be offering automatic backup and restore services, access and management of phone data and provide easy communication and sharing with others. The service will also allow syncing of contacts, email/SMS, calendar items and pictures into the cloud, similar to Apple's MobileMe. The difference from Apple's offering is Microsoft could be set to offer this out to non Windows Mobile devices.

"SkyLine" will be aimed at small businesses. Offering similar functionality to SkyBox, businesses will be able to setup their phones with Microsoft's Exchange hosting with their own domain names.

"SkyMarket" was originally discovered in September 2008 when Microsoft advertised several external job positions. SkyMarket is the codename for Microsoft's mobile marketplace, a competitor to Apple's AppStore and RIM's Blackberry application center. This service will only be available on Windows Mobile devices and will showcase the 1000s of Windows Mobile applications available today.

Microsoft is also expected to unveil Windows Mobile 6.5 at the MWC. Neowin revealed in November that 6.5 was being tested by device partners and would be unveiled in 2009 Q1. Little details are available on the 6.5 upgrade but we can confirm that those leaked 6.5 screenshots are genuine concept shots for the honeycomb web start menu.



Neowin will be live from the Mobile World Congress next month, stay tuned for more information.

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(5 replies) #1 +TCLN Ryster on 19 Jan 2009 - 15:16
Where's SkyNet?
#1.1 creamhackered on 19 Jan 2009 - 15:18
That's coming but humans aren't ready for it yet...
#1.2 Xero on 19 Jan 2009 - 15:49
Should have figured SkyNet was a Microsoft project. No wonder they went on a murderous rampage, they got the BSOD error
#1.3 vetSHoTTa35 on 19 Jan 2009 - 20:25
Xero said,
Should have figured SkyNet was a Microsoft project. No wonder they went on a murderous rampage, they got the BSOD error


LOL - good one!
#1.4 Nexus- on 20 Jan 2009 - 06:11
So if the honeycomb is the startmenu then its safe to say this is conceptual for WM standard and not Pro? They better not pull another '6.1' incident and give the goodie(s) (in that case the sliding today panels) to just Standard (WM Professional user here)
#1.5 apotik online on 07 Oct 2009 - 05:31
Interesting to read new gadgets introduce in the market :-)
(1 reply) #2 Titoist on 19 Jan 2009 - 15:22
Huh? 0.o... I thought the competitor to MobileMe was Mesh! What the hell is this crap?
#2.1 jamiet on 19 Jan 2009 - 19:22
Titoist said,
Huh? 0.o... I thought the competitor to MobileMe was Mesh! What the hell is this crap?


No, Mesh is not a competitor to MobileMe and no-one with any semblance of sense or knowledge on the matter has ever said that it was. You've just listened to all the other braindead idiots who assumed that was the case when Mesh and MobileMe came out.
(1 reply) #3 LTD on 19 Jan 2009 - 15:37
Doesn't MS already have a MobileMe-type service??
#3.1 jamiet on 19 Jan 2009 - 19:23
LTD said,
Doesn't MS already have a MobileMe-type service??

They have an offering for WinMo phones only at http://wl.windowsmobile.com which syncs email and contacts. Its buggy though - I uninstalled it.
(6 replies) #4 Nauge on 19 Jan 2009 - 16:02
I hope they just drop skydrive and integrate it into live mesh.
So many products coming from microsoft its easy to get confused...

mesh calendar, mesh contacts, mesh drive etc...
#4.1 jamiet on 19 Jan 2009 - 19:24
Nauge said,
mesh calendar, mesh contacts, mesh drive etc...


None of those actually exist. You've made them up.
#4.2 GP007 on 19 Jan 2009 - 20:24
It's not clear what Mesh will be like later on, but Mesh is more of a sync app between PC/Mac and mobile phones. Though the big difference here is that Mesh is also a platform of sorts, and developers can write apps for Mesh if they want.

The above Windows Mobile "services" are just that, services. But I do expect MS to tie these into the rest of the Windows Live services on the PC side in some form. Like using Skybox to backup you videos/photos to Skydrive works imo.

As it is right now Mesh just uses a shared Mesh specific folder that's like 5GB, but you can only use that through Mesh itself which makes it different from Skydrive as well.
#4.3 Nauge on 19 Jan 2009 - 20:44
jamiet said,
None of those actually exist. You've made them up.

What I meant to say was that they should simplify the product line.
Skydrive and Mesh both offering 5GB of storage. Why not combine both and offer the user 10GB of unified storage.

Those other products i mentioned would be easier to understand... I know that they dont exist.
#4.4 Nauge on 19 Jan 2009 - 20:46
GP007 said,
It's not clear what Mesh will be like later on, but Mesh is more of a sync app between PC/Mac and mobile phones. Though the big difference here is that Mesh is also a platform of sorts, and developers can write apps for Mesh if they want.

The above Windows Mobile "services" are just that, services. But I do expect MS to tie these into the rest of the Windows Live services on the PC side in some form. Like using Skybox to backup you videos/photos to Skydrive works imo.

As it is right now Mesh just uses a shared Mesh specific folder that's like 5GB, but you can only use that through Mesh itself which makes it different from Skydrive as well.


I thought Azure was the cloud platform... ?
#4.5 jamiet on 19 Jan 2009 - 22:36
Nauge said,
What I meant to say was that they should simplify the product line.
Skydrive and Mesh both offering 5GB of storage. Why not combine both and offer the user 10GB of unified storage.

Those other products i mentioned would be easier to understand... I know that they dont exist.


Fair point, but remember that Mesh is still in beta whereas Skydrive is a released product. Maybe they will combine them but Mesh is in beta for a reason - its not finished yet.
By the way, Skydrive offers 25GB these days.
#4.6 GP007 on 19 Jan 2009 - 22:56
Azure is it's own "services platform" you use it to make your own service that runs on either MS's datacenters for you or your own if you so choose to.

Mesh is more of a app platform in that you still have to install Mesh on your PCs, macs and WinMo phones and then use it.
(3 replies) #5 dhan on 19 Jan 2009 - 16:13
I thought Live Mesh does a lot of this stuff already, all it needs is a good integration with WinMo.
#5.1 GP007 on 19 Jan 2009 - 20:27
But Mesh also covers PC and Mac sync with mobile phones etc. What if you just want to do it for phones only? You still should have a WinMo only service AND these services can be used on Blackberry as well it sounds like.
#5.2 MioTheGreat on 19 Jan 2009 - 22:26
GP007 said,
But Mesh also covers PC and Mac sync with mobile phones etc. What if you just want to do it for phones only? You still should have a WinMo only service AND these services can be used on Blackberry as well it sounds like.


That's a pretty lousy way of looking at it. Why have a duplicate service if you can tailor one to handle both well?
#5.3 GP007 on 19 Jan 2009 - 22:59
Maybe, but SkyBox is just for mobile phone backup really. And less about syncing information between your phone and your PC.

Again, if you don't want or keep this info on your PC why bother with Mesh? Way more people have mobile phones and keep all there contact info there etc. So why not offer them a basic backup for their lists/SMS to the cloud, so then if they lose their phone or it breaks they don't have to worry.
(1 reply) #6 Kinderellazero on 19 Jan 2009 - 16:15
#6.1 em_te on 20 Jan 2009 - 05:40
Yeah baby yeah!
(6 replies) #7 +CrimsonRedMk on 19 Jan 2009 - 16:24
I know MS makes some new ideas and innovations - but it seems to me that while innovating, they also strictly copy Apple.
#7.1 Quikboy on 19 Jan 2009 - 17:56
How so?

Microsoft had Live Mesh before MobileMe. Even though it's still not finished, it can accomplish much more.

A centralized app store has existed before on Palm and Nokia devices, if I recall correctly.

If being more consumer-friendly is copying, then maybe we should stick with only one company to make everything for us.
#7.2 C_Guy on 19 Jan 2009 - 18:40
"while innovating, they copy Apple"

So, which is it? Because we all know who has the hottest non-stop photocopiers in their office. I think they were "borrowed" from XEROX...
#7.3 LTD on 19 Jan 2009 - 19:00
Mobile me used to be .mac, which Apple has had for quite a while now (since 2002), but in a form slightly more limited than MobileMe - but for all intents and purposes it was cloud computing. I'm not sure what .mac was before, but I know Apple has had iDisk service for years now.
#7.4 fota on 19 Jan 2009 - 20:06
"MobileMe...for all intents and purposes it was cloud computing"

LOL. Calling MobileMe "cloud computing" is proof positive that the term has become an overused buzzword. Congratulations.
#7.5 Julius Caro on 19 Jan 2009 - 22:30
wasn't mobileMe's tagline something like "exchange for the rest of us"? exchange being microsoft exchange?
#7.6 rm20010 on 19 Jan 2009 - 23:47
C_Guy said,
I think they were "borrowed" from XEROX...


So funny that Xerox happens to make photocopiers.
#8 vetSHoTTa35 on 19 Jan 2009 - 16:28
Nice - hopefully i can get something like that for cheap(er) too. I love Exchange servers and having the newest with backed support from MS would be sweet!

Oooh looks like we got a nod from Engadget!
#9 DomZ on 19 Jan 2009 - 16:39
Hopefully this means Apple will revamp and improve mobileme. I'd like all my photo's on my iPhone auto syncing with mobileme.
(1 reply) #10 thealexweb on 19 Jan 2009 - 16:39
As much as I like the honeycone interface I still prefer a Android look.
#10.1 Kenny Roger on 30 Sep 2009 - 02:19
I like Android look but, still prefer Sony Ericsson Phones.
#11 Aeden on 19 Jan 2009 - 17:12
No doubt, it'll be branded with Windows Live...
#12 +majortom1981 on 19 Jan 2009 - 17:13
Hmm BEtween syncing up with outlook via bluetooth, and live mesh running on my htc fuze i dont need this.

Also CrimsonRedMK so apple Strictly copies microsoft also so what does it matter.
#13 Quikboy on 19 Jan 2009 - 18:05
I'm think 6.5 will be more of a catch-up to make WinMo more consumer-friendly and more refined (on its own merits). WinMo 7 will most likely where all the more innovative stuff will be.
(2 replies) #14 archer75 on 19 Jan 2009 - 18:10
They already have Live Mesh. Hmmm...

Well with the current state of mobile me it won't be hard to surpass it.
#14.1 GP007 on 19 Jan 2009 - 20:32
But Mesh itself is a app you install and run on your mobile device right? These are just simple services and can run on non WinMo phones as well.

Plus they're phone only, while Mesh covers the PC and Mac sync of data as well.

Sure using Mesh does this, but what if you don't want to sync/backup stuff on your phone with a PC/Mac?

In the end Mesh is a step above these "services".
#14.2 LTD on 20 Jan 2009 - 12:54
GP007 said,
But Mesh itself is a app you install and run on your mobile device right? These are just simple services and can run on non WinMo phones as well.

Plus they're phone only, while Mesh covers the PC and Mac sync of data as well.


As does MobileMe.
(4 replies) #15 seebaran on 19 Jan 2009 - 18:29
Another horrid naming theme. Who the heck gets paid big $$ to ruin it all?!
#15.1 C_Guy on 19 Jan 2009 - 18:41
And what would your cheaper alternative names be?
#15.2 thealexweb on 19 Jan 2009 - 18:50
C_Guy said,
And what would your cheaper alternative names be?


The Sky idea wasn't clever, I keep thinking of skydrive when I read it.
#15.3 jamiet on 19 Jan 2009 - 19:25
thealexweb said,
The Sky idea wasn't clever, I keep thinking of skydrive when I read it.

Isn't that a good thing? They're all services in the cloud - why not make 'em sound the same?
#15.4 GP007 on 19 Jan 2009 - 20:33
Maybe when you use Skybox to backup your data online it goes into your Skydrive?

That would make sense imo, and I hope MS does it like that. The best thing about the Live services is they interoperability between each and so on.
#16 roadwarrior on 19 Jan 2009 - 20:31
All I can say is that I hope they release a 6.5 update for my AT&T Tilt. I like that honeycomb start page concept.
#17 offroadaaron on 19 Jan 2009 - 22:35
This is what happens:

MS: Hey guys lets make more random services, we only have like 100 and half of them are double ups.
People: yay MS more services I love MS.

2 weeks later.
People: you remember that MS service that came out last week, I never use it, I only use hotmail or live mail.
MS: damn noone uses this stuff, lets make more.
People: I cant even find that service MS made now, sites so hard to get around!
(3 replies) #18 jamiet on 19 Jan 2009 - 22:40
Mesh is getting mentioned a lot here even though it wasn't mentioned in the original article. Realise something about Mesh, its still in beta (i.e. its not finished) and everything that is available today at www.mesh.com is the proverbial tip of the iceberg. At its core Mesh is a syncronisation platform, the ability to share files at www.mesh.com is simply one application built on top of that platform. We should expect that some of the existing Windows Live services will also be built atop that platform.
#18.1 offroadaaron on 19 Jan 2009 - 23:08
I don't think they will, we've been saying that about other MS services. They are all so disjointed and separated from each other. Seems like they don't want people to have 1 automated service that does a whole bunch of useful stuff, but would rather for 100 apps that do the same thing and have nothing to do with each other.
#18.2 jamiet on 19 Jan 2009 - 23:40
offroadaaron said,
I don't think they will, we've been saying that about other MS services. They are all so disjointed and separated from each other. Seems like they don't want people to have 1 automated service that does a whole bunch of useful stuff, but would rather for 100 apps that do the same thing and have nothing to do with each other.

Given that the Windows Live team have already publicly stated that they will be doing I think we can safely say that you are wrong.
#18.3 offroadaaron on 20 Jan 2009 - 01:54
jamiet said,
Given that the Windows Live team have already publicly stated that they will be doing I think we can safely say that you are wrong.


MS can say whatever they like, Ill believe it when i see it.
#19 +chrismaddern on 20 Jan 2009 - 01:18
Exchange, right?! :p
#20 Digix on 20 Jan 2009 - 02:51
buy livedrive.com further advance development and stuff with mobile sector and win.
#21 Vercetti on 20 Jan 2009 - 03:50
google is gonna jump on this cloud bandwagon too & then as usual microbois go KAPUT !
#22 em_te on 20 Jan 2009 - 05:42
What about .Net My Services?
#23 Hydrocodone Addict on 11 Oct 2009 - 13:53
I have a skybox addiction now. Can't live without it
#24 Janessa on 15 Oct 2009 - 01:50
I feel like I am in the middle of a Terminator movie with all this "Sky" talk in computers. When will the "SkyNet" computers take over the world? I think I will just keep running my work at home business from my regular computer.
#25 kim.pamela on 07 Nov 2009 - 07:24
They could just update Windows Live for Mobile in order to do all this, but they release one more service that nobody will understand.

They could just take viigo and build an RSS-based "AppStore", but they're putting lots of effort into creating a totally new "AppStore" thing.

Let's see: We got Windows Live, we got Live Mesh, we got Skydrive, we got Zune services, we get SkyBox. What's next?

How many redundant services and applications will they release until they understand that none of the services is close to perfect, nobody understands the services and thus nobody's going to use them and they just waste their time developing thousands of redundand services.

So typically Microsoft!

Can't the make just ONE PERFECT SERVICE? Can't they finally understand that people like Apple because everyone understands their products?

I wonder how much developers at Microsoft get paid for wasting their time on developing redundant services instead of working together on ONE PERFECT SERVICE.

I even wonder how much employees get paid for thinking of new ideas and new ways to confuse the customer.


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