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Google shuts off anti-phishing feature in Firefox 2.0

Chaks   on 21 January 2009 - 09:34 · 16 comments & 4681 views

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Mozilla had announced earlier that it is not planning to do any further security & stability updates for Firefox 2 and the phishing protection service will no longer be available for Firefox 2 users from January 20, 2009. As announced the phishing protection service has been turned off for Firefox 2.

The phishing sites list (also known as black list) is generated by the Google Search in Firefox 2 using the initial version of the SafeBrowsing Protocol. Google and Mozilla have updated the SafeBrowsing protocol to version 2.2 now. Google has requested Mozilla to turn off the phishing filter in Firefox 2 to encourage users switch to latest versions of Firefox and discontinue using the old browser so that Google can stop using the old protocol.

Firefox 2.0.0.19 and 2.0.0.20, the final 2 versions of Firefox 2.0.0.X series were released without this built-in security mechanism while further earlier versions of Firefox continued to provide the service.

Mozilla has advised users of Firefox 2 to disable the setting Tell me if the site I'm visiting is a suspected forgery in the Security preferences under Options Menu. Mozilla has also recommended users to upgrade to Firefox 3 as it offers a free Phishing and Malware Protection service.

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(1 reply) #1 +dead.cell on 21 Jan 2009 - 10:17
I know some people are absolutely stubborn about change, but 3.x is so much better anyhow. Can't really see someone arguing against this.
#1.1 theyarecomingforyou on 21 Jan 2009 - 12:52
Indeed. I upgraded as soon as my extensions were supported or I could find replacements for them. The new bookmark system alone is worth upgrading for.
(4 replies) #2 addc182 on 21 Jan 2009 - 10:26
the uninformed aren't going to know they need to change, and theyre the ones more likely to get pwnt by phishing
#2.1 +Smigit on 21 Jan 2009 - 11:07
The uninformed would have had the browser attemp to update anyway telling them they should hit ok to get the newest version. I'd imagine most users would have just followed those default recommendations.


#2.2 agreenbhm on 21 Jan 2009 - 14:12
Smigit said,
The uninformed would have had the browser attemp to update anyway telling them they should hit ok to get the newest version. I'd imagine most users would have just followed those default recommendations.


Agreed. The people who haven't upgraded are the ones who deliberately chose not to (due to extension incompatibilities and the like. The people that didn't upgrade are probably aware that FF2 is no longer supported, and are probably going to be upgrading soon.
#2.3 C_Guy on 21 Jan 2009 - 16:13
The "uninformed" have to take responsibility for themselves. You can't rely on a phishing filter to do all the thinking for you. If you don't know what you're doing on the Internet take some responsibility and LEARN about it first. Web browsers are for BROWSING, not hand holding.
#2.4 Cryton on 22 Jan 2009 - 02:15
C_Guy said,
The "uninformed" have to take responsibility for themselves. You can't rely on a phishing filter to do all the thinking for you. If you don't know what you're doing on the Internet take some responsibility and LEARN about it first. Web browsers are for BROWSING, not hand holding.

You're wrong, and stop being so elitist. The internet should be able to be enjoyed by everyone irregardless of their technical background. Having some kind of anti-phishing feature is a big step to protect tens of millions of people from nefarious websites that otherwise only an internet expert could consciously avoid.

The web is a big and awesome place, but also sometimes nasty - but it's for everyone, and making it a safer place for everyone is always a good thing. People shouldn't need to understand how something works in great detail to be able to use it, and if the software can do something to make their experience safer then it should.
(1 reply) #3 ozgeek on 21 Jan 2009 - 14:12
This is exactly why programs should have self-updating mechanisms like Windows Update, to proceed unless there are problems such as too low hardware requirements.
#3.1 +Kirkburn on 21 Jan 2009 - 16:05
ozgeek said,
This is exactly why programs should have self-updating mechanisms like Windows Update, to proceed unless there are problems such as too low hardware requirements.

And that is exactly what Firefox has.
(2 replies) #4 LaP on 21 Jan 2009 - 14:45
The first thing i do when i install a new browser in turn off anti-phishing crap.

Btw ugrade to Firefox 3 it's better.
#4.1 +Kirkburn on 21 Jan 2009 - 16:05
LaP said,
The first thing i do when i install a new browser in turn off anti-phishing crap.

Uh, why?
#4.2 KavazovAngel on 22 Jan 2009 - 00:22
Seriously, why would you do that?
#5 _dandy_ on 21 Jan 2009 - 17:56
How old is Firefox 2?

I wonder how the rest of the world would react if MS dropped support for one of its products that had that age.

That's what I don't get about the freeware alternatives' double standard...whether it's a browser or a Linux kernel...MS would never be allowed such short support windows (pardon the pun). I mean, they're still producing updates and hotfixes for OSes and browsers I was using at the same time I was developing software that was intended for RedHat 6.x...when did the last RedHat 6.x update come out?
(1 reply) #6 Bioran23 on 21 Jan 2009 - 23:38
Why does the title read Google...?

Mozilla =/= Google the last time I checked.
#6.1 Cryton on 22 Jan 2009 - 02:05
Bioran23 said,
Why does the title read Google...?

Mozilla =/= Google the last time I checked.

Because Google supply the data and infrastructure for Mozilla's anti-phishing system. The way the anti-phishing protocol works has changed to be much more efficient for Google to run, and so they've now stopped Firefox2's inefficient anti-phishing from working by turning the servers that support it off. Firefox3 and beyond are of course uneffected as they use the newer, more efficient anti-phishing protocol.

Although Fx 2.0.0.19 and 2.0.0.20 had the anti-phishing system turned off in the browser, users on 2.0.0.18 and earlier were still protected because Google's fx2 anti-phishing servers were still active. But no longer.

Last edited by Cryton on 22 Jan 2009 - 02:27
#7 Nashy on 22 Jan 2009 - 14:27
Why not just release an update to change Fx2 to the new protocol?

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