On 26 January, a new law will go in force in England, Wales, and Northern Ireland to make it a criminal offence to possess so-called "extreme" porn. But what is "extreme" porn?According to the UK government, porn must possess all three of the following characteristics to be considered "extreme" and so to incur criminal sanction:
- That the image is pornographic;
- That the image is grossly offensive, disgusting, or otherwise of an obscene character, and
- That the image portrays in an explicit and realistic way, one of the following extreme acts:
- An act which threatens a person's life;
- An act which results in or is likely to result in serious injury to a person's anus, breast or genitals;
- An act involving sexual interference with a human corpse,
- A person performing an act of intercourse or oral sex with an animal (whether dead or alive), and a reasonable person looking at the image would think that the people and animals portrayed were real."
The law includes many exemptions, including "extreme" images used in classified/rated films and art. Also, if people have a "good reason" for possessing such images--or if they unwittingly have them on their machines and have not looked at them, then they will not be charged if caught. Likewise, people who "accidentally" stumble upon such images on the internet or who receive them unsolicited via email will not be prosecuted.
People who participate in the making and distribution of such "extreme" images, however, can expect no such mercy.
The law was devised in response to the brutal murder of Brighton teacher Jane Longhurst whose convicted killer Graham Coutts had been a frequent visitor to the websites "Club Dead" and "Rape Action".
Had someone from heartbeatbabes.com run into a problem getting into the UK because of his site. He made it but not the equipment. So he gave up there and went back to Austrailia. Don't think I'd call that site extreme. Heck it's probably good for ones health
Those clauses are for when some of the high-court judges, police commissioners, and politicians inevitably get caught with such material on their computers.
The same rules follow for porn in many western countries the taboo stuff has been outlawed for a while. And no it's not only shar'ia that applies to this. It's to protect people from things no sane human should be exposed to directly or indirectly.
Yeah if all people were 12 years old. Are you kidding me?
So you support (or personally browse and enjoy) porn that...
"... is likely to result in serious injury to a person's anus, breast or genitals"
"... with a human corpse,
"... intercourse or oral sex with an animal (whether dead or alive)"
My god! Let's spread porn of people screwing goat corpses while getting their scrotum smashed with a hammer!
Well, if they like it, there's nothing wrong with that.
On a related note, I find it funny how muslims women cover their hair but wear really tight jeans. That nice behind sure is more interesting then their hair
1) It's subjective, way too subjective. "grossly offensive, disgusting, or otherwise of an obscene character" is a judgement call and that is a bad idea.
2) The Spanner case, see http://www.spannertrust.org - I have a friend who is an activist on these things, shows that consensual acts between two consenting adults (or more *grin*) can be illegal. To me that's simply wrong, what people do with/to each other, as long as they both agree, should not be subject to interference by the state.
3) This government has a nasty habit of applying laws relating to computers with a wide brush way outside their normal scope. The RIP Act is a prime example. Originally limited to the police and security services we now have local councils using a law drafted to combat serious crime and terrorism to investigate people whose dogs poop in the street, or who don't recycle.
Then there's the exemptions. Operation Ore already showed that arguing that you are not involved, or things were downloaded without your consent is next to impossible. Operation Ore had people whose credit card details had been stolen branded as paedophiles because those credit card details had then been used to purchase child porn, see http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/...techcrime.money
It's rare that any government understands technology, let alone a police force and this is wide open to abuse (no pun intended)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_site
Lets hope they dont commission a study polling how many people in prison have viewed pornography...or how many ppl in prison have ever played a violent video game..etc.
Same here. The first two are too unprecise and should be rewritten, but I fully agree with the third. Imo, people who enjoy things listed under 3. need a nice white jacket with sleeves on the back.
"An act which results in or is likely to result in serious injury to a person's anus, breast or genitals;"
surely anal could cause injury or using a dildo up there. as for breasts and genitals that surely means nipple clamps are illegal.
dont agree with this rule at all, the others are fine but this 1 should be up to the people involved.
How about just a law that makes it illegal to photograph things that are illegal to do, like necrophilia above?
well there goes the neighborhood!
haha imagine the worms, trojans, and viruses with those attachments.
Once again, a gov't want to be the adult above adults, taking care of its little "children". It's all so silly, the same thing goes as for FCC's censorship of cussing in American TV. And not just in stuff aimed for children. What the hell?
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Having said that, how many think #3 in that list will be removed in 10 years time?
This is a typical "slippery slope" law being passed.
"Protect the people from seeing people doing things", the mantra that govt's around the world have shouted since 2000, it seems.
Objective = without mental perspective and judgement.
Subjective = WITH mental perspective and judgement.
I have not seen any of the mentioned, nor wish to.
So the laws cannot cover the United Kingdom then.
General election coming up this year so you know who not to vote for!
Thats the only pron I have stored, I don't want to see some d00d with his schlong hanging out (you know the guy is gay anyway) giving a lovely looking woman a seeing to...That should be me!!!!
"An act which results in or is likely to result in serious injury to a person's anus, breast or genitals;"
So that means anal sex, rough sex woman and man? I think this one needs to be defined better, some will think that or BDSM is Extreme. I agree with points 1 and 3 though, but 2 just sounds like they can pull anything... so much for lava lamps up woman's V's! hahah
But... I bet the rules do not apply to them.
Hmm, well there's your problem right there. It's not the act of going to the sites that the problem. That's been shown over and over again.
2. That the image is grossly offensive, disgusting, or otherwise of an obscene character, and
3. That the image portrays in an explicit and realistic way, one of the following extreme acts:
* An act which threatens a person's life;
* An act which results in or is likely to result in serious injury to a person's anus, breast or genitals;
* An act involving sexual interference with a human corpse,
* A person performing an act of intercourse or oral sex with an animal (whether dead or alive), and a reasonable person looking at the image would think that the people and animals portrayed were real."
Ah for a second I've started to worry that films about mass killings, blood and guts flying around could be banned.
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So, technically, a picture of a horse with the dongle ready is illegal. LOL
So am I gonna get done over by the law?
not my goat porn! nooooooooooooooooo
Why are they not just moving the filth to an "adult" domain, and controlling them from there. People file (and photo) sharing has been around since the first camera. Nothing is going to stop that, though using it as an excuse to search a computer, is very convenient.
My mum would be offended a photo "showing pink", so we might as well arrest most males, as perverts.
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