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The Pope has created a YouTube account

Mitchell LeBlanc   on 25 January 2009 - 03:37 · 38 comments & 6609 views

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Pope Benedict XVI, or more appropriately, the Vatican as a whole, have created a YouTube account.

The Assosciated Press is reporting that the Vatican hopes to utilize the growing medium of online media to unite the Pope's audience. Such a move was not made without criticism however, as the Pope warned that he "isn't embracing virtual communication without some reservation."

The Pope, in a broadcasted speech stated: "So that the Church and its message continue to be present in the great central communications as defined by Pope John Paul II and so that it's not a stranger to those spaces where numerous young people search for answers and meanings in their lives, you must find new ways to spread voices and images of hope in the ever evolving communications system that surrounds our planet"

Previously, the Vatican had warned of the issues of social networking, touting the possibility of obsessiveness.

The Pope's move to virtualize both himself and his messages comes after similar moves from President Obama and the Queen of England.

The expansion into the digital foray may not stop here as the Vatican has mentioned a similar expedition into the realm of Facebook.

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(1 reply) #1 GOJI_GKing2000 on 25 Jan 2009 - 09:53
ah.... don't know how to put this... but that's not Benedict.
#1.1 Daninku on 25 Jan 2009 - 14:15
haha you're right, how about putting a funny Barack Obama with an article related to America. Should have at least put a descent picture or else the vatican emblem or whatever.

And although I agree with certain comments that youtube is not going to make Christianity more popular, there is nothing wrong with the pope using youtube for his work. In fact, as the article states, Barack Obama and the Queen have done the same.
(3 replies) #2 on 01 Jan 1970 - 00:00
#2.1 _dandy_ on 25 Jan 2009 - 14:05
theyarecomingforyou said,
Having a YouTube account is not going to make religion any more relevant, especially not for one as backward as Catholicism.


...and there you have it. Wasn't there a discussion right here on Neowin just a few days ago suggesting that religion causes more disagreement than anything else?
#2.2 theyarecomingforyou on 25 Jan 2009 - 16:06
Exactly. If religion didn't exist there wouldn't be any cause for disagreement over it and there wouldn't be the religious hatred we've seen from both Islam and Christianity, as well as the threat posed by more modern religions like Scientology. Religion preaches tolerance but is the biggest cause of intolerance.
#2.3 Marduk on 25 Jan 2009 - 18:23
I fully agree with you.

Its a damned shame they'll probably disable comments(if not already done, not going to vindicate this topic anymore than a mere post on it) you could have seen some interesting comments, I saw on the news that at least ratings were disabled.

I only hope this brings about a parody channel "The Ratican" anyone?
(6 replies) #3 Foub on 25 Jan 2009 - 14:08
You can't disguise the greatest evil (religion in general) ever created by Man by dressing it up in new clothes.

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#3.1 Eis on 25 Jan 2009 - 19:53
Foub said,
You can't disguise the greatest evil (religion in general) ever created by Man by dressing it up in new clothes.

What about for the people who believe that religion saves their lives? Do we disband religion in general due to a few radicals that have made their way to the 4chan/digg internet crew, sacrificing the joy of all the people that religion actually helps and people that it saves?
#3.2 Foub on 25 Jan 2009 - 20:59
Here is a quote that I use.

"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."

Religion is what Man uses to create god in his own image. Its much, much, much more than a few "radicals". You forget the Crusades, the Inquisitions, the Burning Times, the Holocaust, etc, etc.... On it goes on even today.
#3.3 Eis on 25 Jan 2009 - 22:15
I do not argue that religion causes many terrible, terrible things to happen due to people higher up corrupting and abusing its vast influential power.

But evil people will do evil things, with or without the use of religions influence, as you said. The idea that abolishing religion will somehow cause these people to give up and forget they once controlled many people is absurd.

My question to you is such: if we abolish religion for good, how many people do you believe will find moral and spiritual balance without the guidance of a church or whathaveyou?

Honestly, I'm with you. I hate organized religion and believe that people shouldn't be forced to believe in something from birth, nor should they form their opinion of god and morality based on what someone else tells them. People should find these things for themselves based on what they believe. But I honestly don't believe without the guidance of religion many people would learn the things they do inside a church.
#3.4 DClark on 25 Jan 2009 - 23:19
Foub,

The Holocaust was an act created by an atheist, Adolph Hitler.
#3.5 Foub on 25 Jan 2009 - 23:22
Who said anything about abolishing it?

If one needs religion to tell one what is right and what is wrong than one is the problem. Religion only offers subjective truth. What one religion finds "moral" (i.e. Mutilating the sex organs of children.) another may not. The same with immoral (i.e. Its a great "sin" to eat a pig or a cow.). That's just one of its many dangers.

BTW, what is "spiritual balance"? Is it some kind of new age crystal thing?

I would never dream of forcing my belief on another and I don't base my morality on a religion either.

Last edited by Foub on 26 Jan 2009 - 20:23
#3.6 Foub on 25 Jan 2009 - 23:26
DClark said,
Foub,

The Holocaust was an act created by an atheist, Adolph Hitler.


Wrong. He was a devout Catholic, as many of his followers were. I have proof of this. He thought that the "Final Solution" was the most "humane" way of dealing with the Jews who he believed had killed Jesus Christ. If he were an atheist he would have took over the Vatican as well instead of leaving it alone for the most part.

Proof;

http://rapidshare.de/files/43698483/hdc.txt.html

Last edited by Foub on 25 Jan 2009 - 23:41
(3 replies) #4 on 01 Jan 1970 - 00:00
#4.1 ShMaunder on 25 Jan 2009 - 15:31
Didn't notice it until somebody said - but it also cracks me up
#4.2 Xero on 25 Jan 2009 - 18:36
Did I miss something what's so funny?
#4.3 +WindowsNT on 25 Jan 2009 - 18:47
Xero said,
Did I miss something what's so funny?


There was a picture of a "pope" going a glasses/binoculars action with his hands. Has now been changed of course to something more tasteful :-)
#5 paustin on 25 Jan 2009 - 16:17
coming soon on a very special edition of Dateline: To Catch a Predator
#6 eilegz on 25 Jan 2009 - 19:17
palpatine channel, justwhat we need
(5 replies) #7 on 01 Jan 1970 - 00:00
#7.1 Airlink on 25 Jan 2009 - 20:18
Religion IS useless drivel.
You might as well claim that the burrito you had for lunch last night was divine and made your **** the savior of the world. It makes about as much sense any religion does.
#7.2 Foub on 25 Jan 2009 - 21:21
One doesn't have to be an atheist to see religion for what it is.

BTW, atheists believe in one less religion than you do.
#7.3 zaidgs on 25 Jan 2009 - 22:42
Foub said,
BTW, atheists believe in one less religion than you do.

I think what you meant to say is: "Atheists disbelief in one more religion than you do."

Sure, you know better than I what you meant to say, bu your statement just doesn't tick the way you said it.
#7.4 Foub on 25 Jan 2009 - 23:43
zaidgs said,
Sure, you know better than I what you meant to say, bu your statement just doesn't tick the way you said it.


You should know that I'm an agnostic.
#7.5 zaidgs on 26 Jan 2009 - 15:35
Foub, how is being agnostic relevant to your statement?! As a matter of fact, I am an agnostic and an atheist. Although, I consider myself as a gnostic atheist with respect to the Abrahamic God.

In other words, I am sure that the Abrahamic God does not exist (and I am also sure about many other Gods to not exist as well), hence I am a gnostic atheist to a certain set of Gods. But I cannot be sure whether or not a God in some forms to exist or not, hence I am agnostic. I also, don't have any theistic beliefs, which makes me an atheist.
(1 reply) #8 SoulEata on 26 Jan 2009 - 04:54
Can someone explain why this is news if the account states:

"Joined: November 21, 2005"
#8.1 pjak on 26 Jan 2009 - 20:16
someone just realised... lol
#9 Mokusei on 26 Jan 2009 - 08:45
so... we waiting now for islamic immams, buddhas monks accounts and big flame war ; p
(2 replies) #10 Mindstormsguy on 26 Jan 2009 - 14:32
Is that quote right? Did the pope say "evolving"?
#10.1 SoulEata on 26 Jan 2009 - 21:36
Evolution is an acceptable belief in the Catholic Church.
#10.2 Foub on 26 Jan 2009 - 23:39
SoulEata said,
Evolution is an acceptable belief in the Catholic Church.


I think that Ratsinger wants to reverse that.
#11 zaidgs on 26 Jan 2009 - 15:23


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#12 zaidgs on 26 Jan 2009 - 15:33
Please, delete this comment and the one above it.

Last edited by zaidgs on 26 Jan 2009 - 15:40
#13 Foub on 26 Jan 2009 - 15:47
I'm a Strong Agnostic in that I believe that no one can know if a god exists or not.



(4 replies) #14 Foub on 26 Jan 2009 - 15:48
I'm a Strong Agnostic in that I believe that no one can know if a god exists or not.
#14.1 Gersson on 26 Jan 2009 - 18:38
Foub said,
I'm a Strong Agnostic in that I believe that no one can know if a god exists or not.


Glad that's settled...
#14.2 zaidgs on 27 Jan 2009 - 16:31
Yes, you can know that some gods don't exist, if they have self-contradicting properties.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil
#14.3 Foub on 27 Jan 2009 - 16:52
zaidgs said,
Yes, you can know that some gods don't exist, if they have self-contradicting properties.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil


Hardly. You're talking about religion. Remember, Man uses religion to create god in his own image. He still can't "know" if there is or is not a god. Faith, or belief, is not knowledge.

Here is another quote I like to use;

"Faith is that quality which enables us to believe what we know to be untrue."
-- From Boners: Seriously Misguided Facts -- According to Schoolkids
by Alexander Abingdon


The concept of evil is also a creation of Man. It doesn't exist on its own. The same as good.

Last edited by Foub on 27 Jan 2009 - 16:58
#14.4 zaidgs on 28 Jan 2009 - 01:29
Exactly, thats why I disbelief in the Abrahamic God, as a god of some religions. But I am agnostic to the general conception of God. No contradiction here.
(1 reply) #15 FleazZz on 27 Jan 2009 - 17:52
Jeez bunch of haters. Good for you your holiness.
#15.1 Foub on 27 Jan 2009 - 18:52
The most intolerant people that I've ever met were theists.

BTW, saying "Jeez" is taking the LORD's name in vain and thus a mortal sin. You're going to HELL.....

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