Stephen Sinofsky, Vice President, Windows and Windows Live Engineering Group at Microsoft, has written a blog post to everyone testing the Windows 7 Beta giving out details about skipping the Windows 7 Beta 2, and going directly to the Release Candidate (RC) build, also known as a Beta refresh. The Release Candidate will be the last testing phase of the Windows 7 fully featured operating system before the final version of Release to Manufacturing (RTM) build, which ships to companies and consumers all around the globe.The engineering team said in their blog post that "At the peak we were receiving one "Send Feedback" note every 15 seconds!" giving an impression just how much feedback Microsoft is receiving during the Beta phase. The blog also suggests that Microsoft is watching and reading peoples blogs and forums about the impression of Windows 7, and accommodating accordingly to peoples impressions of the Beta.
We can expect to see bug fixes and some improvements overall in the Release Candidate, as the team has been fixing issues with smaller things such as keyboards, cameras and other devices providing it doesn't affect performance, behaviour, compatibility, or reliability.
No dates were given on the Release Candidate (RC) or the Release to Manufacturing (RTM), but we can expect the Windows 7 Beta will be very similar to the final version we can expect in stores later this year.
Remember that 7 isn't a major overhaul from Vista. Hence the 6.1 kernel for 7 and 6.0 for Vista.
Slow it down for gadgets? Really? Isn't that something they could do at any given time?
Also, didn't I hear about them making the sticky note gadget useful? I also suppose "useful" is a term that varies from user to user.
You just proven that you know nothing about Windows OS
6.1 kernel? I think you're confusing the GetVersionEx result (which is 6.1 for compatibility reasons) with the actual OS version. The Windows 7 kernel is the Windows 7 kernel.
go home and play with your flea-infested snow leopard you infantile imbosile!
Its my opinion, you dont have to read it.
Thus, your comment is denied.
I hope you learn from your mistake.
Opinions based on absolutely nothing aren't worth the pixels they're displayed on.
Then why did you write it?
Thus, your comment is denied.
I hope you learn from your mistake.
Comment denied? Ha! You sound like Vista when I try to move a file or folder sometimes
Hopefully it'll be different this time. We'll find out when it's actually released.
Hopefully it'll be different this time. We'll find out when it's actually released.
yeah.. just like when they rushed windows XP in 18 months. what a disaster that turned out to be..
Hopefully it'll be different this time. We'll find out when it's actually released.
You really should try the Windows 7 beta with an open mind before you make comments like this!
Hopefully it'll be different this time. We'll find out when it's actually released.
yeah.. just like when they rushed windows XP in 18 months. what a disaster that turned out to be..
XP was a disaster. Why do you think we were essentially given a whole new OS (XP SP2) for free?
Oh and Server also gets R2 updates, so when you think about it, 2k3 had a 2k5 version more or less, but MS didn't change the whole name.
Hopefully it'll be different this time. We'll find out when it's actually released.
yeah.. just like when they rushed windows XP in 18 months. what a disaster that turned out to be..
XP was a disaster. Why do you think we were essentially given a whole new OS (XP SP2) for free?
you do realize that SP2 is a service pack right? cumulitive and security updates for XP, not a whole new OS.
i can only imagine, if sp2 was never released for XP, and instead they released win XP R2 as a whole new OS, we'd never hear the end of complaints that it should have been a free SP for XP
And this bickering about what OS is better is just pointless. Use what suits you. It's not at all bad that a great competing OS is released. In fact, the competition benefits us all. Good things are coming. Stop bashing each other
I would say option #2.
It is still missing some basic things like the week numbers and the Windows Explorer is still using words "kilobyte", "megabyte", ... incorrectly.
See the blog: http://windows7critics.blogspot.com/
Yes, I have tried both 32-bit and 64-bit Windows 7 Beta 1 and it's quite fast and stable, but why to rush things?
In my opinion it should go like this to not to rush:
Windows 7 Beta 2 (Q2 2009)
Windows 7 RC 1 (July 2009)
Windows 7 RC 2 (August/September 2009)
Err, it's using them the way that they've been used since the dawn of modern computing.
I just think it's the app maker who has to update his app if for some reason it won't install or run right when MS doesn't change APIs.
Uh, why? Because Microsoft is perfect and there are no compatibility issues despite kernel changes?
No, its only because the program is not compatible. Changes are to be done to the programs, same with Vista.
Many programs already support Windows 7 and works fine, even without any change. The rest needs to add the support.
Btw : Can we get LTD banned from commenting on Windows articles?
Btw : Can we get LTD banned from commenting on Windows articles?
I agree, Windows 7 is really looking good!
As for your other comment... I second that.
If you think it seems rushed, and have misgivings about it, you're free to voice them.
I actually find myself agreeing with him more often these days.
He seems to hate Windows and Mac equally. LOL, does that make it better?
If you think it seems rushed, and have misgivings about it, you're free to voice them.
Perhaps you should look at your history and figure out why everyone finds you comments on Windows discussions annoying?
If you think it seems rushed, and have misgivings about it, you're free to voice them.
Perhaps you should look at your history and figure out why everyone finds you comments on Windows discussions annoying?
I don't particularly care. I say what I have to say and you either support it or you don't. If I actually allowed myself to feel annoyed at people on the internet I wouldn't even go online.
Live with it.
And here's my opinion: you all are a bunch of children! So ban me!
Otherwise his opinions are pointless.
Just like somebody bashing a Mac needs to try a Mac out or their opinions on that matter are pointless.
He seems to hate Windows and Mac equally. LOL, does that make it better?
Oh, I find him quite despicable. You at least have bring reasons and facts to an argument. It's your opinions I sometimes don't agree with though...
C_Guy on the other hand just wears a tinfoil hat and makes stuff up, without ever answering anything that counters his blind faith. That kind of stuff really bothers me, ya know? People willing to believe anything and everything, being spoon-fed by those they idolize; especially those known to have a good degree of intelligence.
If you think it seems rushed, and have misgivings about it, you're free to voice them.
I tested Vista when it was prebeta through RTM. I have also used Windows 7 Beta. Based on how Windows 7 beta is doing, it is a lot better then Vista was at RC stage. I am looking forward to seeing the RC version of Windows 7.
He seems to hate Windows and Mac equally. LOL, does that make it better?
Oh, I find him quite despicable. You at least have bring reasons and facts to an argument. It's your opinions I sometimes don't agree with though...
C_Guy on the other hand just wears a tinfoil hat and makes stuff up, without ever answering anything that counters his blind faith. That kind of stuff really bothers me, ya know? People willing to believe anything and everything, being spoon-fed by those they idolize; especially those known to have a good degree of intelligence.
Lighten up, Francis. C_Guy has not made one comment this whole thread, and you're bashing him. If it bothers you that much, don't reply to his comments. It's that easy.
If you think it seems rushed, and have misgivings about it, you're free to voice them.
Perhaps you should look at your history and figure out why everyone finds you comments on Windows discussions annoying?
I don't particularly care. I say what I have to say and you either support it or you don't. If I actually allowed myself to feel annoyed at people on the internet I wouldn't even go online.
Live with it.
So to summarize, I troll Windows threads and I know I annoy people. Okay, got it.
Yes, it would. If something is "by design" it is supposed to be like that (and most of use would probably prefer it that way - it's 'by design' for a reason) - that is everything except security issues like the UAC malware thing...
If something is tagged as "won't fix", it is very minor and not important. It would probably slow down the development of Windows 7.
The UAC thing is a problem, but when MS says it's by design it means so in the context of that security setting. Up the UAC setting to max on Win7 and it's not an issue. The fix is there, you use it or you turn the security settings lower and take the risk.
On the other hand, MS could just prompt whenever UAC is being changed itself, regardless of the setting, and that'd be the end of it.
No, it wouldn't.
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Is his name Tom Warren?
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I think we all know.
We all do know
Apart from lylesback2 of course!
it's already RC for over a month. every upcoming build could be final. so i think february-march public RC with many language packs and april-may RTM
Are you trying to say Windows XP was pre-beta to Windows 7?
Pfft!
What was Windows 98 then? Windows 95? Very early alpha releases!?
Don't make me laugh!
Windows Vista is now a solid operating system. It's not Microsoft's fault if you do not have the hardware to support it (the hardware needed now comes with most computers and laptops as standard and is very cheap).
I've had no problems with Windows Vista since I purchased it in February 2007. In fact, I had more problems with Windows XP!
Sad fact is that he was proberly pretty pleased with himself as he wrote that.
IE8 is Microsoft's best ever browser by far.
Indeed; if Win7 uses IE8 RC1, it'll be solid. The version of IE8 with the Win7 Beta seems to have rendering issues, but the RC1 version on my Vista install is working perfectly. I think IE8 is pretty much ready for release after using the RC.
I've also been using IE8RC1 on my system and it's working great, performance is up, stability is up. Now to just work on more standards and get better Javascript performance.
The rest is just features like a download manager etc that people still want.
The theme looks to much like Vista and there are plenty of nagging bugs that they seem to always skip.
Beta 1 is pretty solid but still feels half done.
So, what? I actually like Vista's theme. In Windows Vista, people complained that it was pointless eye candy. Now people want it to change again?
Most people I showed Windows 7 to said "it just looks like Vista" and walk away. That isn't good news for Microsoft, they need a new inspired theme.
Also Windows XP, Vista and Seven all have pointless eye candy but the end user should be able to have several professional designed themes to choose from, I don't get why Microsoft is so lazy about that.
From one side, I agree that if you want people to come with an open mind after all the Vista FUD spreading around, You want a completely new look. Social Engineering.
On the other hand, I don't think anything is wrong with Aero as a theme - I used to modify my XP theme alot before moving to Vista and i never needed to switch Aero to something else. What's more, You want people to understand that the visual look does not represent the work done - Many of the changes are usually backend, Or even if they are usabilityvisual changes - They might not be clearly visible from just the themedesktop.
if i put the laptop to sleep, after a while it just shuts down and there's a log in the event viewer about kernel power... this never happened with the m3 build.
but with some of the features, notably the aero snap (i think it's called, where you can move windows to the edges and it fits 1/2 of the screen, etc...) i really like. xp just seems old and tired in comparison, i don't know why anyone would want to stay with it.
if they get that sleep bug fixed (which i reported), i'd have no complaints.
I have no issues with it and will upgrade to 7 from XP (tho I'll do a clean full install for that).
I find it faster, sleek and easy to use. It's deff an upgrade from xp, and a renewal from Vista but cleaned up.
This should've been Vista, I guess this is their second chance before more people run to Apple.. lol
Windows7 is in better overall shape than Vista but it's still a rush job with corners cut.
Windows7 is in better overall shape than Vista but it's still a rush job with corners cut.
Go read up on the release history of Windows, and then come back here when you get a clue.
NO issues related to the OS itself. I have two software issues with 3rd party software, that I had to use XP compatibility mode to get working, but that was it. It's what "Vista" probably should have been.
Maybe you should try the Windows 7 beta?
I think you'll find Microsoft know what they're doing this time and have learnt from any past mistakes in regards to development
- We knew from the beginning that the only beta would be Beta 1 ! Why are people complaining NOW ? Microsoft are not rushing things, they're just sticking to what they said.
Realize the codebase W7 is working from and consider WS2008R2 and VSP2 are hitting RC, W7 is right there.
Using a single code base for all 3 speeds up development times now.
The attitude here should be keep testing it until it's actually done. That would mean a couple more betas being put out before the RTM in 2010.
The attitude here should be keep testing it until it's actually done. That would mean a couple more betas being put out before the RTM in 2010.
If you keep testing an OS untill every bug is fixed it will never be released. If you really think it is possible to release bugfree software you have never ever in you live programmed
I think all the comments in here about microsoft "rushing" Windows 7, and "fanboys all swallow everything microsoft do raw" and so on, are just what I like to call;
"obsessive disagreement disorder"
People that just CANNOT say one positive thing about ANYTHING that other people are positive about.
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