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Adobe, Apple working on Flash for iPhone

Sam Symons   on 31 January 2009 - 23:21 · 21 comments & 6096 views

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A recent interview with Bloomberg has had Adobe chief Shantanu Narayen reveal that Adobe has teamed up with Apple, to work on bringing flash to Apple's iPhone.

Narayen has said that "It's a hard technical challenge [Flash], and that's part of the reason Apple and Adobe are collaborating". CEO of Apple, Steve Jobs, said last March that the full version of Flash runs poorly on the iPhone, and Adobe's Flash Lite is not featured enough for use, so he has called on Adobe to produce a third version.

Adobe has a long history of porting technologies to mobile devices, like the previously mentioned Flash Lite, but still has to overcome some unmentioned hurdles to finally get a consumer-ready Flash for the iPhone. Narayen said, three months after the iPhone's App Store launch, that he's "pleased with progress" on Flash, so maybe it's not very far away from release at all.

It is not clear which form Flash for iPhone will come in, be it a separate App or possibly built into a future firmware version, as third party iPhone apps aren't allowed to serve as plugins, as per the iPhone SDK rules.

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#1 Justin- on 01 Feb 2009 - 02:25
This is fantastic news and is one of the most requested features (behind copy and paste, of course).
#2 MrA on 01 Feb 2009 - 03:14
Not surprising considering that Adobe's been working on bringing full Flash 10 to mobile devices. They've already demoed Flash 10 on Android. However, there better be a way to disable it. I wouldn't want Flash on iPhone considering how much Flash on OSX sucks.
#3 zivan56 on 01 Feb 2009 - 03:16
How is it a hard technical challenge? The Nokia 770, a severely underpowered internet tablet, has had full flash support (not lite) for at least 3 years. It uses an ARM processor and runs Linux...so I can't imagine how much different it would be for the iPhone, sans the different OS API. I would say it is a licensing issue between Adobe and Apple rather than a technical issue.
#4 /- Razorfold on 01 Feb 2009 - 03:26
*Ahem* Skyfire.

Yay for windows mobile
(3 replies) #5 DeathsyctheHe11 on 01 Feb 2009 - 03:35
Copy and paste already there if you jailbroke it, pretty useful too!
#5.1 Justin- on 01 Feb 2009 - 04:02
DeathsyctheHe11 said,
Copy and paste already there if you jailbroke it, pretty useful too!


iPod Touch 2G can't be JB yet.
#5.2 Sam Symons Live on 01 Feb 2009 - 04:58
Justin- said,
iPod Touch 2G can't be JB yet.

As of about 24 hours ago, it can be =) A tethered jailbreak though, meaning to boot up your iPod you need to be connected to your PC, and it's currently only for Mac, but it's a start
#5.3 Rob2687 on 01 Feb 2009 - 05:41
Sam Symons Live said,
As of about 24 hours ago, it can be =) A tethered jailbreak though, meaning to boot up your iPod you need to be connected to your PC, and it's currently only for Mac, but it's a start

There is a way to do it on Windows too.
(6 replies) #6 on 01 Jan 1970 - 00:00
#6.1 +tunafish on 01 Feb 2009 - 09:10
atari800 said,
Why you low life imbeciles with your windows mobile phones... As soon as I got done vomiting after reading this article and your.... attempts at communication..... I (or I should we WE) of the Apple eschelon find this news as a milestone and your insults ...nah, an attempt with magnetic letters on a refrigerator to fill in the blanks on some mad libs page... a little sarcastic. HOW DARE YOU EVER make a slanted statement at Apple or Steve Jobs.
Do we, speaking for the entire Apple community, make ourselves clear, that there is to be NO COMMENT that is negative in this article.
Windows people just make me puke... meaningless pestilence mindless zombie Bill Gates followers......you sicken me to DEATH!!!!


I think i speak for most people here on neowin
Will you just SHUT UP!

End of the day Apples so called iphone should of had flash player on it at release, just like near all other phones out there.
I also currently DON'T need to install any 3rd party firmware to get all these fancy new "features" on my Windows Mob
#6.2 /- Razorfold on 01 Feb 2009 - 10:39
Dam man what crack did you smoke?
#6.3 whitewings05 on 01 Feb 2009 - 10:46
Yeah and Steve Jobs doofuses like you sicken us Windows zombies. At least zombies can eat doofuses. =]
#6.4 Shadow Dragon on 01 Feb 2009 - 14:31
Hah, at first I thought this was a sarcastic joke, but looking at this guys history, he must be serious, in which case I don't even know what to say.
#6.5 LTD on 01 Feb 2009 - 14:38
Uh guys, again, atari's parodying Mac users. He's taking some of you for quite a ride.

You don't even need to look at his history for this to be obvious.
#6.6 +dead.cell on 01 Feb 2009 - 16:04
He's like the Steven Colbert of the tech-world.

I like it!
#7 whitewings05 on 01 Feb 2009 - 10:40
It's a hard technical challenge [Flash]


+1!
#8 Sphinx Myth on 01 Feb 2009 - 12:14
Flash must die. It's poorly implemented and is just another crappy software from Adobe. It already sucks your CPU and battery on Mac OS X, just imagine the result on the iPhone: poor performances, shortest battery EVER and sloooooooow loading on 3G/EDGE.

Don't trust Adobe.
#9 LTD on 01 Feb 2009 - 14:39
Flash is the bane of the internet.
(1 reply) #10 +bob21 on 01 Feb 2009 - 16:56
This article is absolute rubbish , Its clear that steve jobs is a retard who knows precisely dick about adobe flash

Flash light its perfectly capable of playing video's (FLV's) as it has full compatibility with flash 8 hell it even does a decent job of rendering papervision3d.org (even if it is a bit choppy on a kaiser).
Got that steve it is a fully featured flash 8 player for fecks sake .

Ok so the flash light can handle video but what about performance even that 3d application can run fine on a device from 2007 , Its certainly not like HTML where the CPU is only needed once but as soon as the browser (HTML) starts rendering 3d and video (in 2050 most probably) it will require the same resources .

Sure rendering a papervision application is more intensive than text but 2008 devices are perfectly capable of rendering some video and 3d through flash light . It was an issue in 2006 - mid 2007 devices but not today

Its typical apple bs to demand a special player for the (sh)iphone , I dont want to have to support this rubbish phone . Lets hope adobe does the right thing and tells steve jobs where to shove it.
#10.1 LTD on 01 Feb 2009 - 19:07
Yeah, that's right, Steve Jobs is a retard. He's really hurt Apple with his crazy ideas.




#11 LTD on 01 Feb 2009 - 19:17
Steve and Co. are right to stick to their guns here, and force Adobe to up its game. It is as it should be.

I am in the camp that feels Flash-based sites are largely poorly coded pieces of bloat for the most part, but the sad reality is that too many sites rely so heavily on the technology that inclusion is a necessary evil. At least for now...

Last edited by LTD on 01 Feb 2009 - 21:16
#12 +bob21 on 01 Feb 2009 - 20:30
His claim that
Steve and Co. are right to stick to their guns here, and force Adobe to up it's game
is grad a bull**** . Up the game to what ? a fully featured desktop port of the flash player wheres the logic in that when flash light is essentially the desktop player with the cpu intensive API's removed .

It just dosnt make sense to produce another version of the flash player with these API's included when the shiphone is already struggling with the lite client .

As for the anti flash nonsense , This is 2009 we have quad core computers becoming mainstream 4GB of ram being the norm and a markup language that cant even create a simple color gradient with code . HTML is an obamanation its evolution has been pathetically slow and because its an open standard we have effectively handed over control of the standard to the browsers .

Brilliant , Compare that to the flash player which can already render 3d content using the GPU which suffers from no variation between browsers which can be updated at any time .

Im glad to be in the pro flash and anti HTML camp because i belive that the reason why the internet is being replaced by pre-fabricated crap is because HTML is so hopefully outdated .

Last edited by bob21 on 01 Feb 2009 - 20:36

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