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Undersea cables 1901 vs. 2008

Brad Sams   on 09 February 2009 - 19:47 · 60 comments & 20463 views

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Cables are what make all of our connections possible; everything from your internet to you TV is possible thanks to cables that span the globe.

Cable lines, or in those days, phone lines were the hottest technology. Below is a map from 1901 of undersea cables that connected the world to each other. With these cables the world was finally able to communicate to each other quickly and was no longer dependent on mail.

Moving forward to 2008 and nearly everyone in the world depends on undersea cable. Everything from your favorite website to that spam mail you received from a rich king in Nigeria who wants to give you his fortune are dependent on these undersea cables.

There is no doubt that as we move forward in the future that we will require more cables to be put on the sea floor. Imagine what the next 100 years will bring for undersea cables, or perhaps a new technology will rid our need for them completely.





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(6 replies) #1 SolwayUK on 09 Feb 2009 - 20:19
interesting...

the irony is that; most all the cables come into the UK where i live, however i can't get cable Internet - just adsl , lol

is there a bigger picture of the 2008 one?
#1.1 bdsams on 09 Feb 2009 - 20:21
click the picture
#1.2 DigitalE on 09 Feb 2009 - 20:28
bdsams said,
click the picture

It's still not very large.
#1.3 SolwayUK on 09 Feb 2009 - 20:29
bdsams said,
click the picture

yea, i meant, one that you can read
looks like its a poster that you have to buy
#1.4 bdsams on 09 Feb 2009 - 20:36
I tried to find the biggest possible one and this was it....
#1.5 +Lexcyn on 09 Feb 2009 - 20:43
SolwayUK said,
interesting...

the irony is that; most all the cables come into the UK where i live, however i can't get cable Internet - just adsl , lol

is there a bigger picture of the 2008 one?

You can always buy the poster for $250 ... LOL.

http://www.telegeography.com/products/map_cable/index.php
#1.6 huFFamOOse on 09 Feb 2009 - 20:57
(2 replies) #2 Sam Symons Live on 09 Feb 2009 - 20:43
There's more cables going to NZ in the first map than the 2008 one. Bad times for me.
#2.1 Glassed Silver on 09 Feb 2009 - 20:58
Sam Symons Live said,
There's more cables going to NZ in the first map than the 2008 one. Bad times for me.

have a look at the 2009 map:
http://www.telegeography.com/products/map_...s/Cable_Map.gif

ok... just the same as a century ago, not really a huge success, but still: NOT LESS!
#2.2 Sam Symons Live on 09 Feb 2009 - 22:32
Glassed Silver said,
have a look at the 2009 map:
http://www.telegeography.com/products/map_...s/Cable_Map.gif

ok... just the same as a century ago, not really a huge success, but still: NOT LESS!

Victory!
(3 replies) #3 Jeremy Bellefeuille on 09 Feb 2009 - 20:44
Terrorist attack!!
#3.1 The2 on 09 Feb 2009 - 21:04
Jeremy Bellefeuille said,
Terrorist attack!!

I keel yu!
#3.2 +TCLN Ryster on 09 Feb 2009 - 22:06
You forgot "Silence!!" :-)
#3.3 +s.L.m on 10 Feb 2009 - 12:13
I kill u !!
(1 reply) #4 TRC on 09 Feb 2009 - 21:01
I wonder if any of them are still there. I think my local phone company is still using lines from 1901.
#4.1 Glassed Silver on 09 Feb 2009 - 22:04
TRC said,
I wonder if any of them are still there. I think my local phone company is still using lines from 1901.

I guess it'll come down to about almost all of them if not all.
TBH, those are the ones we're surfing, calling and networking with even nowadays.
#5 Anatolian on 09 Feb 2009 - 21:08
Thank you for the information....
(1 reply) #6 sao123 on 09 Feb 2009 - 21:12
Google Search:
little out of date, but bigger size.
Your text to link here...

Your text to link here...
#6.1 Airlink on 09 Feb 2009 - 22:07
Thanks.
(3 replies) #7 tiddlie on 09 Feb 2009 - 21:14
Australia has surprisingly few cables going into it considering the size and population.
#7.1 Glassed Silver on 09 Feb 2009 - 21:59
tiddlie said,
Australia has surprisingly few cables going into it considering the size and population.

Australia only has about 21 million inhabitants... what do you expect?
oh and size doesn't matter! XD
size matters when it comes to national lines, not undersea lines, that mainly serve for reaching a country.
And you already DO have East and West connections, what's the matter?

The reason why Australia's ISPs don't give you decent connections is not because transnational lines do not allow more traffic, but because they are greedy, cartellized and simply don't invest.
#7.2 Pam14160 on 09 Feb 2009 - 22:59
you think you have problems, look at russia. . . .
#7.3 Pc_Madness on 10 Feb 2009 - 01:58
Pam14160 said,
you think you have problems, look at russia. . . .


The map only shows underseas cables. I don't think there are seas in Europe-> Russia
(1 reply) #8 Sawyer12 on 09 Feb 2009 - 21:38
Looks as though nothings changed much lol.
#8.1 Glassed Silver on 09 Feb 2009 - 22:01
Sawyer12 said,
Looks as though nothings changed much lol.

indeed, prolly, because the good old cables have enough troughput for modern communication for a fair extend.
(1 reply) #9 Sawyer12 on 09 Feb 2009 - 21:41
I'd love a copy of that for our office anyone know where I can get a big print?
#9.1 Glassed Silver on 09 Feb 2009 - 22:03
Sawyer12 said,
I'd love a copy of that for our office anyone know where I can get a big print?


yes:
Lexcyn said,
[...]
You can always buy the poster for $250 ... LOL.

http://www.telegeography.com/products/map_cable/index.php
#10 Lezard on 09 Feb 2009 - 21:58
I'd love to tap into one of those next time I am out in the atlantic lol
(2 replies) #11 Mayn1ac on 09 Feb 2009 - 22:08
New Zealand was more connected in 1901 than it is now !!!
NZ government you ought to be ashamed.
#11.1 Pc_Madness on 10 Feb 2009 - 01:59
Mayn1ac said,
New Zealand was more connected in 1901 than it is now !!!
NZ government you ought to be ashamed.


The Cable between Australia and New Zealand is purely out of pity, we don't actually want to be connected to you guys. :p
#11.2 Atlonite on 10 Feb 2009 - 09:54
well least we dont tie our kangaroo's down mate and we've nearly completed the takeover of bondi beach lol
@ mayn1ac reason for the lack of cables is fiber optic replaced several copper cables
#12 cypherboy on 09 Feb 2009 - 22:10
The number of cables in use probably has not changed much since 1901. The difference is that back in 1901 an undersea cable could only carry 2 telegraph channels, one in each direction (on a good day), whereas todays fibre optic cables carry tens of thousands of simultaneous transmissions.
#13 indiansboy94 on 09 Feb 2009 - 22:21
Interesting Picture.
(2 replies) #14 mmck on 09 Feb 2009 - 22:33
"...500 million... users... growing by 882% per year"

Or at least it was... I dont think it will continue at that rate as it suggests.
#14.1 Cyborb on 09 Feb 2009 - 23:00
I feel like it has to decline, India and China have like half of everybody and they've been well on their way getting on the triple W.
#14.2 mmck on 10 Feb 2009 - 00:42
882% increase on 500 million equals 4.41 billion. So I dont see next year Asia reaching that increase in usage, considering there are only 6.8 billion people in the world.
(7 replies) #15 soldier1st on 09 Feb 2009 - 22:55
Perhaps in the next 100 years the cables might be replaced with wireless cables but those pictures are sweet.
#15.1 ripgut on 09 Feb 2009 - 23:22
soldier1st said,
Perhaps in the next 100 years the cables might be replaced with wireless cables but those pictures are sweet.



"wireless cables" ?
#15.2 Astral on 09 Feb 2009 - 23:53
soldier1st said,
wireless cables


Uhhh....
#15.3 eck0 on 10 Feb 2009 - 00:50
Maybe he meant wireless Cable? But that would defeat the purpose of calling it cable
#15.4 aarste on 10 Feb 2009 - 01:56
soldier1st said,
Perhaps in the next 100 years the cables might be replaced with wireless cables but those pictures are sweet.

Fibre optics travel at the speed of light, I doubt wireless signals ever will, nobody will settle for high pings.
#15.5 smurphy999999999 on 10 Feb 2009 - 05:15
aarste said,
Fibre optics travel at the speed of light, I doubt wireless signals ever will, nobody will settle for high pings.


Uhh wireless uses radio waves that are also a form of electromagnetic radiation just like the light in fiber optics. They both travel at the same speed. They have different throughputs but that is for other reasons.
#15.6 Sranshaft on 10 Feb 2009 - 08:41
Wireless?!? The next big breakthrough for transcontinental connections will be quantum entanglement! You heard it here first.

Edit: here are some articles on what I'm talking about just in case you skipped that theoretical physics class...

http://everything2.com/e2node/Quantum%2520...20communication
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement
#15.7 XerXis on 10 Feb 2009 - 11:30
soldier1st said,
Perhaps in the next 100 years the cables might be replaced with wireless cables but those pictures are sweet.


they call it sattelite

and the distance of going from earth-sattelite-earth makes for a higher latency than using undersea cables
(2 replies) #16 Angel Blue01 on 10 Feb 2009 - 00:31
I remember when they said it would be impossible to lay a cable across the Atlantic.
#16.1 mmck on 10 Feb 2009 - 00:44
1850s wow you're old.
#16.2 Pc_Madness on 10 Feb 2009 - 02:01
mmck said,
1850s wow you're old.


Hahah, win :p
(1 reply) #17 Shiranui on 10 Feb 2009 - 00:50
A PDF (or any vector format) would have been nice. a GIF is so ... 1901.
#17.1 Julius Caro on 10 Feb 2009 - 01:01
that's how it is anyway. the site that makes that pap sells the map, so there's no BIG version going round for free
(1 reply) #18 XerXis on 10 Feb 2009 - 01:17
the strange thing is, both maps look almost identical, there were as many cables in 1901 as there are now. Would have never guessed that
#18.1 MarcoDigi on 10 Feb 2009 - 05:18
Except Japan is way more connected to the US
#19 mclaren05 on 10 Feb 2009 - 06:42
Its too bad these cables couldn't be thrown all over the world (including Antartica). I believe in a world where everyone and everywhere should have a connection to data transportation (or the internet for those less tech suav...)
#20 Soldiers33 on 10 Feb 2009 - 09:39
doesnt look like a lot of cables, considering is connecting every the whole golbe together.
#22 Magallanes on 10 Feb 2009 - 13:35
Kudos for my country :2 cables ^_^


ps :Thanks for this kind of news.
(1 reply) #23 besunta on 10 Feb 2009 - 18:38
Do they make any kind of study to see if it is damaging the nature?

Do they remove old cables when installing new ones?

Why Russian doesn't have any cable? hummmm

Portugal has 5 to 9 cables but all connected to lisbon is it wise? hummm
#23.1 Silvery on 11 Feb 2009 - 00:58
Russian doesn't have any cables because it's connected to Europe by land cables that are not shown on the map. To be particular to Finland. And AFAIK there are few undersea cables in Baltic sea, but I'm not sure.

Last edited by Silvery on 11 Feb 2009 - 01:40
#24 Skullpture on 11 Feb 2009 - 00:11
Cable guy says, "move over fish, cable coming through."
#25 carson2255 on 11 Feb 2009 - 09:49

Wireless vs Fiber Optic

Fiber Optic is a lot faster in sending data
Fiber Optic is a lot more secure
Fiber Optic offers more range

Bottom line.... Wireless only offers convenience, good for local area networks but if your want performance, range, and reliability go wired.

By the way OC 768 = 48 gb/s ==== go Fiber
#26 jonnytabpni on 15 Feb 2009 - 17:58
Is there a undersea cable connection from Northern Ireland to the mainland UK? If there is one, is it just so small that we can't see it?

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