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Microsoft recommends upgrade to Vista before Windows 7

Chaks   on 12 February 2009 - 01:45 · 26 comments & 9043 views

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As Windows 7 gets ready for its next release, it could be already hurting Vista's remaining chances with businesses and organizations. Microsoft has started to push Vista to its corporate customers. Earlier this month Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer warned companies to upgrade from XP. Following Ballmer, Gavriella Schuster, Senior Director in Windows Product Management group urges businesses to upgrade to Windows Vista now, even if they plan to move to Windows 7 when it ships.

Schuster argues that the benefits of Vista upgrade would outweigh the costs of upgrading to Vista and urges companies to start Windows 7 Beta testing as soon as possible.
  • Companies that skip Vista are at risk of their software vendors halting support to Windows XP before Windows 7 arrives.
  • Due to the similarity in code base for Vista and Windows 7, companies which upgrade to Vista now can enjoy a smoother upgrade to Windows 7 compared with the risky move straight from XP to Windows 7.
  • Deploying a new PC with Vista is cheaper than installing XP on it and then later move it to Windows 7.
  • Companies that stay on XP will miss the forthcoming Vista SP 2's improved security and stability.

Paul DeGroot, an analyst at Directions on Microsoft notes that Microsoft makes similar routine arguments during every major OS transition. However, he feels those reasons are not sufficient to get companies move to Vista. DeGroot remaines unconvinced and says even with Vista's improved deployment tools, an in-place upgrade is one of the most costly and difficult projects for an IT department and he hasn't heard of any software vendors, including Microsoft, making an announcement of halting the support to XP apps before Windows 7 arrives. DeGroot concludes most companies will wait till Windows 7 ships or move to Vista only as they get new PC's.


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Nearly a 3rd of companies listened to Microsoft's call and are deploying Vista in North America and Europe. Another 27% plans to deploy Vista in 2009 or 2010. However, a survey by Gartner shows that about 30% of large businesses are likely to skip Vista and many haven't decided what to do. Only a few are set to deploy both Windows Vista and Windows 7 as soon as possible.

Microsoft has also launched a new blog, Windows for your Business to market Windows to its corporate customers in which Schuster talks about Microsoft's plans to help reduce the IT costs of commercial customers who are looking at deploying Vista.

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(5 replies) #1 iamwhoiam on 12 Feb 2009 - 03:40
Yeah, like people are going to spend money to upgrade to Vista and then spend even more to upgrade to 7.

Companies that skip Vista are at risk of their software vendors halting support to Windows XP before Windows 7 arrives.

Fat chance ISVs are going to stop supporting a widely used OS before 7 goes RTM.
#1.1 Chaks on 12 Feb 2009 - 03:43
#1.2 Marshalus on 12 Feb 2009 - 03:55
A lot of companies (like mine) are on Software Assurance and get automatic upgrade licenses.
#1.3 NPGMBR on 12 Feb 2009 - 15:32
This is really no different than any other MS OS deployment. I work for a federal agency and our IT Dept didn't require every Bureau to upgrade to XP until three years ago. At this very moment we are running Office 2003 but we are about to be upgraded to Office 2007. Its not a matter of fear of Vista on the part of a lot of organizations, its just that they are slow to adopt. At home I have been running Vista and Office 2007 since March 07 but I always come to much older versions of software at work and its not just Microsoft Software.
#1.4 Captain555 on 12 Feb 2009 - 15:46
Come on guy. Be generous. They need our money. They might have to give up their corporate jet if we don't do our part. You wouldn't want Balmer to have to fly commercial, wouldn't you ?
#1.5 timster on 12 Feb 2009 - 19:33
Captain555 said,
Come on guy. Be generous. They need our money. They might have to give up their corporate jet if we don't do our part. You wouldn't want Balmer to have to fly commercial, wouldn't you ?
yea. sit him between Linux and Apple fanboys ... hahaha
#2 Xero on 12 Feb 2009 - 04:18
I'll bet they do lol
#3 random_n on 12 Feb 2009 - 05:15
Companies that skip Vista are at risk of their software vendors halting support to Windows XP before Windows 7 arrives.

Dropping support for the world's most widely deployed desktop OS, and it's close counterpart Server 2003? Not likely.

Due to the similarity in code base for Vista and Windows 7, companies which upgrade to Vista now can enjoy a smoother upgrade to Windows 7 compared with the risky move straight from XP to Windows 7.

Churn operating systems twice in a short time period, and (except for Software Assurance customers) pay for Windows upgrades twice? Again, not likely. Also, how is moving from XP to Vista less risky than going straight to 7?

Deploying a new PC with Vista is cheaper than installing XP on it and then later move it to Windows 7.

True, it does take time to run the reinstall (or the reimaging disc many OEMs provide), but running a mixed NT5/NT6 environment isn't without its costs either.

Companies that stay on XP will miss the forthcoming Vista SP 2's improved security and stability.

Hm? XP and Vista are both about as stable as one could reasonably expect, and security patches for both will be delivered for quite a while. SP2 isn't going to be the patch to end all patching. Vista's current issues are speed, interface awkwardness, and compatibility. Windows 7 addresses the former two head-on, and compatibility is a wound that time has been healing nicely.
#4 dagamer34 on 12 Feb 2009 - 05:25
The odd thing is that even if Windows 7 is the greatest thing since sliced bread, no IT administrator is going to approve the OS for at least 1-2 years on their corporate network. That means that XP support really could have expired by then, and certainly support for Windows 2000.

Even if Windows Vista is "bleh", hardware cycles are far more important than software ones. If hardware were to break today, testing adequate Windows 7 support would be a nightmare if a company has been dealing only with XP up until then.
#5 IntelliMoo on 12 Feb 2009 - 06:03
gotta admit, ms sure got some balls. lol
(1 reply) #6 ajua on 12 Feb 2009 - 06:28
Those arguments seem right to me. Although, many companies are skipping Vista not for itself, but for the costs right now.

Migrating from Vista to Windows 7 would in fact be much more smoother.
#6.1 Ledgem on 12 Feb 2009 - 22:48
Vista to Seven might be smoother, but would it be worth migrating from XP to Vista to Seven? If you're going to bother migrating at all, I'd imagine that jumping from XP to Seven would be just as much effort (if not less) than going through two migrations, regardless of how smooth the second migration is.
#7 Jugalator on 12 Feb 2009 - 08:17
And what about the dual licenses and the extra costs of doing the job across a department twice?
(1 reply) #8 Tews on 12 Feb 2009 - 11:24
Bleh .. Just use Linux and save yer $$$
#8.1 C_Guy on 12 Feb 2009 - 17:10
Bleh... try to stay on topic
#9 TheNay on 12 Feb 2009 - 12:31
Why would companies waste $ on a new OS that they'll use for less than a year if going to 7?
Sounds pointless to me.
#10 Magallanes on 12 Feb 2009 - 12:35
Two words :greedy ******!


#11 Airlink on 12 Feb 2009 - 13:49
Ah, another steaming load of "advice" from Microsoft.
Smell that? That's MS marketing hard at work.
(1 reply) #12 bradsday on 12 Feb 2009 - 13:49
Uh, yeah, well of course they would like to you upgrade to Vista before Windows 7. This way they can hit you twice with the cost of an overpriced operating system. With all of the bad press surrounding Vista (much of it founded), most people are anticipating moving straight from Windows XP to Vista. For the sake of Microsoft, hope that the move for these customers will be smoother than that experienced by many of us with Vista. If not, then they should be prepared for a backlash, that could include losing even more of their market share to Apple.
#12.1 JonathanMarston on 12 Feb 2009 - 14:42
If you read the article, it obviously isn't targeted to consumers, and is instead targeted to businesses, and even more so to businesses with software assurance licensing (who get free upgrades).

Even with SA, there's still a cost incurred by upgrading to Vista and then 7, but MS doesn't benefit (directly) from it. Instead the cost is the time and potential headaches that the IT staff will have to spend on it.
#13 GreyWolfSC on 12 Feb 2009 - 15:36
3% of the comments on this news have a clue...
#14 Krome on 12 Feb 2009 - 16:39
So basically, Microsoft is using this ploy to wipe-out the bad press that Vista had. It looks to me that way.
#15 Buttus on 12 Feb 2009 - 16:50
I'm surprised they didn't advise to upgrade to xp pro, then vista office, then ultimate, THEN win7...
#16 C_Guy on 12 Feb 2009 - 17:16
It amazes me to see how many people rush in with ignorant comments about Microsoft being "greedy". If anyone bothered to look at the graphic included with the article they would note that Microsoft gives specific guidance for all audience: Those still on 2000, those who are undecided on an upgrade, those already upgrading, and those who choose to wait.

If you look carefully, Microsoft recommends to those who are waiting for Windows 7 to ensure they have support for critical business applications and to evaluate Windows 7 early and thoroughly. They don't say "Noooo don't wait, get Vista now foolz lolz!"

They also suggest that organizations who are undecided should consider Vista to make the transition to 7 easier.

There's no FUD here, no pressure to get Vista. Just some considerations and guidance on the upgrade. Microsoft isn't stupid, they know not everyone will go to Vista before Windows 7. And they know that while there are many benefits, it's not going to be appropriate for every organization.

It's unfortunate that actually READING Neowin's posted articles is just too much work for some people before they rush in with their ignorance.
#17 Lord Ba'al on 13 Feb 2009 - 00:44
Whoa, advising people to move to Vista so shortly before Windows 7 comes out - that's downright lunatic!

"Ok, we didn't make near as much money from Vista as we wanted to, and now Windows 7 will come out soon... let's make a last attempt and see if we can't find a few more clueless, gullible people we can sell it to. Last chance now, once Windows 7 is out, it will be as hard to sell Vista as selling a refrigerator to an eskimo."

Besides that - "the risks of skipping Vista"!? :rofl:
I'll gladly pass up on the "risk" of not wasting my money on a putrid pile of donkey dung, thank you very much.
#18 MadDog on 13 Feb 2009 - 21:43
That's just insanely stupid... "We really, really think you should upgrade to the OS we couldn't move off the shelves before upgrading to the greatest OS evar!" Why the heck does the average consumer want to blow however many hundreds of dollars on Vista only to toss more money down a hole for the upgrade to Windows 7? If anything, they should bundle Vista free with Windows 7 so you can do the WinXP --> Vista --> Win 7 upgrade.

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