After protests from the Belfast Telegraph, Amazon.com has stopped selling the game Rapelay, a violent and graphic visual rapist's fantasy involving female victims of age and, apparently, under age. Rapelay is produced by long-time 3D Hentai video-game producer Illusion.The point of the game? To rape women and (what looks very much like) a twelve-year-old girl.
The backdrops for the rapes? A train carriage, a public toilet, a young girl's bedroom (complete with large teddy bear).
The usual sequence?
- stalking her
- "praying" for gusts of wind to blow up her skirt so you can see up there using the versatile camera
- groping her for a bit
- raping her, sometimes until tears come out in her eyes and her hymen quite obviously breaks all over your "baseball bat"-sized member
- and, if "necessary", forcing her to have an abortion if she falls pregnant. (If you don't force her to abort and the baby's born, you will be pushed under a speeding train and die, as "revenge".)
Screenshot: Amazon's withdrawn ad RapelayAccording to the Belfast Telegraph, Keith Vaz, a Labour Member of the UK Parliament, said, "It is intolerable that anyone would purchase a game that simulates the criminal offence of rape. To know that this widely available through a major online retailer is utterly shocking, I do not see how this can be allowed. I will be raising this matter in Parliament and hope that action is taken to prevent the game from being sold."
[Author's editorial remark: apparently rape really is more shocking than murder... says someone who routinely murders people in all manner of gruesome scenarios in GTA4, one of the most popular and highly rated games of all time.]
Whatever makes you happy dude.
Whatever makes you happy dude.
it been out for at least a couple of years. It is hentai, although not my forte. thats my brothers arena. And he probably had no clue it portrayed a 12 year old girl. There's always Xchange. Guy drinks something becomes woman and the other woman plays around. o_O eek. No where's some real porn man. Hentai is always about rape. No matter what tenticle is goes up what hole.
Yes, some people do cross that line but it's still debatable whether they wouldn't have performed those actions regardless due to mental issues rather than it being purely the games fault.
Hell rapes depicted in pretty much every other form of media as it is anyway and probably far more vividly in many cases. I don't condone the game, but it certainly won't turn everyone into rapist.
*waits for flamers*
For the record I've never raped, let alone stalked anybody.
can't blame western minds for being shocked at the game, which shouldn't have been sold in these parts of the world in the 1st place...
Short answer: yes.
Definition of torture:
1. the act of inflicting excruciating pain, as punishment or revenge, as a means of getting a confession or information, or for sheer cruelty.
2. a method of inflicting such pain.
3. Often, tortures. the pain or suffering caused or undergone.
4. extreme anguish of body or mind; agony.
5. a cause of severe pain or anguish.
Being forced against your will to be put in pain, physical or mental, would then be considered torture. If the controversy brings any shock to you, maybe you should take a look at our society, where even known murderers are to be protected from torture. Apparently, torture > murder.
This makes me curious as to how many people would rather be murdered than put in excruciating pain...
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cause NO ONE would want to feel extreme pain. (well maybe some extremely rare people who have serious mental issues might. lol)
it wasn't sold by amazon it was sold on amazon marketplace
-A man who just murders a girl
-Or a man who just rapes a girl
It seems like in Japan that sexual assault is common to the point that people are a bit desensitized to it, probably like Americans are with all the violence on TV, and it's not okay either way. If someone thinks that games or television have no effect on peoples' thinking and actions in the real world, they aren't being honest with themselves. Of course we still know right from wrong, but we also absorb everything we see and hear. Personally, if something is illegal because it hurts someone else (killing, stealing, rape, etc.) , I don't think it should be glorified in a video game.
It's unsettling and disappointing that there are enough like-minded people all working together to produce a game like this. I'm not even going to get into how offensive this is to women.....it's just sad.
It seems perfectly fine to simulate acts of gruesome violence and murder, but yet it's not acceptable to simulate rape. And yet, I dare wager, many of the people who argue that this rape game should not be sold, played, or allowed in any form because of the 'obvious' dangers, are also the same people who mock those who say that playing games which include violence can lead to real acts of violence by the players.
Either you believe that all such illegal acts should not be placed into a game (including acts or torture and murder as well as rape) for whatever reason, or you believe that they are acceptable in a game because they are only simulated. You can't reasonably have it both ways. You can't just cherry-pick those acts which suit you and your moral compass.
It seems perfectly fine to simulate acts of gruesome violence and murder, but yet it's not acceptable to simulate rape. And yet, I dare wager, many of the people who argue that this rape game should not be sold, played, or allowed in any form because of the 'obvious' dangers, are also the same people who mock those who say that playing games which include violence can lead to real acts of violence by the players.
Either you believe that all such illegal acts should not be placed into a game (including acts or torture and murder as well as rape) for whatever reason, or you believe that they are acceptable in a game because they are only simulated. You can't reasonably have it both ways. You can't just cherry-pick those acts which suit you and your moral compass.
why can't you cherry pick? the world doesn't exist in absolutes and nothing is ever a black and white issue. on every topic there exists a continuum of opposing views with a majority in the grey areas
Because in this case it would be silly and would make no sense. How can anyone realistically say that it's ok to depict murder and torture but not rape, and expect to be taken seriously. On what grounds can you accept the first that don't apply to the second, or on what grounds can you disagree with the first that don't apply to the second. Think about it!
But apart from that. I really don't understand what the problem is. Let's face it, there are sick people, if you want to realize or not. So what would you (=anyone opposing this) prefer: That those people go out and do actual rape or that games become so realistic that those people might live within society with there problem and handle it. Of course narrow-minded people will say those games will be incentivizing people to those acts. NO certainly NOT. Those people are already here and that is (=video games) one of the things that could be used as therapy.
I'm not saying all people playing those games have problems. I play mostly FPS games and do not really think about going on a killing spree and would even try out this game, mostly for the gameplay
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we have so many games of taking peoples lifes, that murder seems.... dulled.
You can't tell if they are in pain or if they are enjoying themselves. So its very possible You've watched a Jap rape flick and didn't even know it.
So some Japanese nerds don't have girlfriends who want to play along...doesn't mean they're just dying to do these things in "real life"
as for the rest of the parts of the game...disturbing but no worse then some of the stuff western developers produce. Only extreme here is the rape concept...
I'm prefectly fine with you not shopping with places you don't like... but I honestly don't see how Amazon can really be to blame for this. as soon as they became aware of it they shut it down and took every action that could be expected of them...
(Hint: Next time, carefully read the whole article before commenting on just the headline!)
It's no worse then searching for snuff films on ebay, they're there...it's wrong...but they won't stay there for long. And you can't blame ebay for the actions of it's users.
yes that would be interesting, and to see the "recommended items"
those sneaky japs, always upto something!
It has to do with the fact that the west culture has a history of violence. A lot of violence has been deemed appropriate, or justifiable, because the ends justify the means. However, games like GTA move the violence into a different context which (to many) is taboo (and there are just as many people screaming foul on that).
Using violence in war like games, or in games where the hero fights off some greater more violent evil does not offend people. Beowulf, Shakespeare, Greek Mythology, etc. are all full of righteous violent acts that the culture has grown around. Rape is presented as a subject, but is rarely glorified.
Rape is a type of violence that has never been considered a 'just' act of violence. It has always been seen as a cruel and "evil" act. There are no ends that justify the means in the case of rape.
So I disagree with the sentiment that the culture is hypocritical when violent video games are considered "ok" for the market, but ones involving rape are not. It is in line with the cultural norms of the west.
Using violence in war like games, or in games where the hero fights off some greater more violent evil does not offend people. Beowulf, Shakespeare, Greek Mythology, etc. are all full of righteous violent acts that the culture has grown around. Rape is presented as a subject, but is rarely glorified.
That is actually incorrect the bible has many parts that glorifies or endorses Rape. Judges 21:10-24 NLT Numbers 31:7-18 NLT Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB are just a few examples but there is a lot more.
Numbers 31:7-18 is yet another past account of a nation so eager to plunder cities for women and loot, emulating their very pagan enemies whom they just destroyed. The instructions given by Moses were a concession, not a command.
Zechariah 14:1-2 describes what nations do when they invade smaller countries against their will. Soldiers will pillage and rape... I seem to recall a certain Iraqi girl and her family, so it seems even the USA is guilty of it in war. God is prophesizing what will naturally come to pass based on the animalistic instincts of men who do not worship Him.
Hats off to anybody who can understand the quoted verses in their correct contexts, but no harm trying.
I don't think people having a problem, or even liking games like this is necessarily a bad thing. It's if you can control yourself. Just to make an example, if some guy thinks like a rapist, the first thing he thinks of when he sees a girl is that, and hes just like that (yes that kind of stop happens, just like gay people or transgenders, peoples minds can be weird), even if someone had that it wouldn't mean that guy needed to go to an institute or something as long as he controls himself. Having a problem and acting because of your problem are 2 different things. Now give me a cookie for writing this entire thing even though I really don't care and probably won't even get any replies.
Odd choice for a game too...
First off please don't speak for all woman because you are not every woman; I as a woman do not find rape fantasy offensive actually I tend to enjoy it quite a bit. Most rape fantasy is created for woman, as it's woman who tend to fantasize about it more than men.
So now because someone has a fantasy that you don't agree with there is something wrong with them?
In case you people didn't know one of the most popular fantasies woman have is rape. I myself have this fantasy, I can't exactly tell you why or give you some psychological reason behind it other than I know what turns me on. That doesn't mean that I want it to actually happen to me, but in fantasy it can be quite fun. This game would have been better off staying on the shelves of some adult store somewhere though and not on an Amazon subsidiary website.
It's like that whether it's reality, fantasy, opinion or a different point of view.
But what if I told you I had fantasies of raping and killing babies very often, but wouldn't act out on those fantasies. Would you think there is something wrong with me?
Going around killing people to earn money in GTA, or playing a graphically accurate game as a hitman who kills people for a living is fine buy playing a cartoon game about having sex without consent is really wrong...?
Please, hypocritical is an understatement.
Yes, it's pretty dark to have a game center around rape. Almost as bad as having games that center around killing people mindlessly in the most graphic way possible. Oh wait...
When crap like this happens, it just gives the idiots in Washington DC more ammo to "regulate" something.
Enjoyable!
Rape is overrated. If you offer a woman 4 choices:
a) Shoot in the head
b) Brake legs
c) Punch into the face 10 times
d) Rape by George Clooney
I would bet that most of the woman will choose rape, because in reality death or heavy physical pain... is much worse. And then she will go screaming like a zombie whose legs were broken demanding death penalty for rape.
Yes it matters. Damage done by rape is more psychological than physical unless victim gets beaten. It matters who was the victim (teenager, prisoner, prostitute). People without life experience will perceive it as more damaging (teenagers even kill themselves for trivial and small problems which looks huge to them due to inexperience - failed exams, love problems, etc.). It matters who did it (lovable person, scary AIDS patient or a gang), how it was done (brutal or not). Some young women go to some oil rich countries to be f***ed by people they don't like for big money (means that sometimes rape can be easily turned into a voluntary job if you give enough money). Society also matters. Sometimes most of the damage to the victim is done by bad psychiatrists after the rape. They make victim believe that mental damage is very serious and victim is "damaged goods" forever now. If you are in some strict Muslim country then surrounding society could make matters even worse because with local attitude they could continue to destroy you not only mentally but also physically ("honour killing"). Things are not simple as you say.
I would expect such absolute opinions from young person who never met real problems like terminal diseases, all life work destroyed, death of own children or person who have no big value for life. Its would be poor judgement to kill for something where imaginary psychological damage plays biggest role.
Lets see in the near future they will also attempt to remove Ag3 ( Artificial Girl 3 ) where you can create 5 girls and modify then , because it can be related to incest since you can make then like your sisters
or ban any Visual Novel that includes rape.
oh btw i love the part they're against abortion , but looking at the Belfast and that keith Vaz , well i think i know why..
and yes i did imported those games and yes I'm over 18 and i knew what they were about
Umm about 99.9% of all games simulate the criminal offence of murder so what's the big deal?!
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