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Microsoft previews Windows Mobile 6.5

Chaks   on 16 February 2009 - 16:08 · 61 comments & 13315 views

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Microsoft today at the Mobile World Congress officially previewed what Neowin has been showing you for weeks now, its new Windows Mobile 6.5 operating system for Windows phones. Windows Mobile 6.5 brings a handful of enhancements including an application store called Windows Marketplace for mobile and a backup and restore service called My Phone.



The mobile OS is not available until the second half of 2009. The new interface does look stylish and more finger friendly. This is a great welcoming change from Windows Mobile 6.1

Without any further delays, below are the screenshots for you to enjoy

The new lock screen



The new lock screen also shows other information like missed calls, voicemail, and new messages



The new Honeycomb Start Menu interface - This is the Start Menu that you get when you click the 'Start' button



You can also move and rearrange icons on the Honeycomb menu





The new dialer



The new Internet Explorer Mobile web browser along with a sliding scale to help zoom in/out of pages and also includes new tools for better page navigation and a breadcrumb features that shows you where you are on a Web page. The browser also supports Flash Lite.


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(7 replies) #1 +bob21 on 16 Feb 2009 - 16:14
Absolutely fantastic , This is shaping up to be another great year for Windows Mobile .

With LG on board were going to have even more devices to choose from .

Brilliant
#1.1 Xero on 16 Feb 2009 - 16:20
Not the words I'd choose. Damn that is ugly as hell. The keypad is kind of nice, but damn Microsoft, cmon.
#1.2 backdrifter on 16 Feb 2009 - 16:24
What's so ugly about it? I mean everybody's got their own taste, sure but it's looks decent enough.
#1.3 wookietv on 16 Feb 2009 - 16:25
other than the usage of too many fonts (not sure why they're still using Tahoma, why not all Segoe UI?) it looks slick to me. what problems do you have with it that it's "ugly as hell"?
#1.4 GP007 on 16 Feb 2009 - 16:32
It seems some people just don't like the honeycomb feature, but that looks better when every new update. The fact you can move them around is also great.

The new lock screen is very nice also. I wanna see more of the other apps and parts.
#1.5 simon360 on 16 Feb 2009 - 19:13
Everything looks improved, but the buttons/controls on the browser are kinda hideous. And why is "move to top" in a menu in the honeycomb interface? Why can't you just drag the icon where you want?
#1.6 Ogden2k on 16 Feb 2009 - 20:52
simon360 said,
Everything looks improved, but the buttons/controls on the browser are kinda hideous. And why is "move to top" in a menu in the honeycomb interface? Why can't you just drag the icon where you want?

I agree, this looks beautiful. Personally, I will be choosing this over the iphone.
#1.7 Xero on 16 Feb 2009 - 21:41
Icons, Fonts, Placements, don't dislike the honeycomb interface that much. But the colors don't match, some gray, some blue, some glossy some not. The lock screen and status bar items seem randomly placed, nothing is seems anchored. Everything looks out of place, even the time on the bottom looks lost. I guess it looks like a puzzle with all the pieces jammed together even though they don't fit. Personal opinion of course. Seems very sloppy compared to Windows 7/Vista's interface.
(2 replies) #2 Electronic Punk on 16 Feb 2009 - 16:32
It kinda sucks that this won't be made officially available for those with existing devices
#2.1 +bob21 on 16 Feb 2009 - 16:35
Most recent handsets will be offering a 6.5 update , As long as your hardware is good enough an update will be offered .

XDA-Developers will handle the rest
#2.2 GP007 on 16 Feb 2009 - 16:37
That's never really been a problem though? I figure this will get out there for everyone to use just like how we've got leaked roms of older versions already.
#3 mrmomoman on 16 Feb 2009 - 16:36
Some people just want to bitch about nothing. It's a new step for WinMO 6.5 and I like it. Of course its not as slick as some others and so many people compare the Iphone Interface to everything else. Yes the IPhone has a slicker interface but it still doesn't outsale the WinMo platform for business use. I have the 16G 3G Iphone and had it replaced 3 times now. It locks up, slow for transition from phone pickup and back again. I am waiting for my HTC TOUCH HD. They have mentioned that previous owners of WinMo 6.1 Pro can upgrade when it comes out.

The 3G on the iphone on AT&T networks sucks. It's not that much faster and not reliable at all. I turn it off most of the time because it drains the battery very fast and its not much better then EDGE for email retrieval. The Iphone is not a business phone unless you like emails only. Office Documents, Complete Outlook Sync not just active exchange, etc.

I know with Windows Mobile 7 they will make many new friends in the Mobile Arena.
(2 replies) #4 +zhiVago on 16 Feb 2009 - 16:43
MS is catching up and WM6.5 provides a nice transition to WM7 which is what everyone is looking forward to.
#4.1 +bob21 on 16 Feb 2009 - 16:48
Catching up ? I assume their's some sort of time machine involved considering windows mobile has been around for 7+ years .
#4.2 GP007 on 16 Feb 2009 - 16:50
That's how you have to think WinMo 6.5 is, a transition. That's why they haven't really redone it more.

WinMo7 should have even more and newer UI changes but if that's all most people really care about (looks) that sucks.

It doesn't have to look the best just as long as it works well and does what I need really. On that note I like where 6.5 is going, and they still have a few more months to work on it more (April is the due date it seems).
(1 reply) #5 JonathanMarston on 16 Feb 2009 - 17:02
Looking good - much more polished than the leaked builds we've been seeing. The home screen (not pictured above, other sites have shots) is looking more and more like the Zune.

I have to ask, though, why were these posted as GIFs? The banding that results detracts from the look of the UI.
#5.1 GP007 on 16 Feb 2009 - 17:04
WinMo and the Zune are part of the same unit at MS. It's no surprise if they share the same UI elements.
(1 reply) #6 oggign on 16 Feb 2009 - 17:19
I prefer a transparent taskbar, solid color kinda sucks
Why doesn't MS make a superbar for this <3
#6.1 +bob21 on 16 Feb 2009 - 17:33
It swiches between transparent and opaque like vista when an application is maximized
(1 reply) #7 darklordofthesith on 16 Feb 2009 - 17:33
I wonder if 6.5 standard will work on my blackjack 2
#7.1 ec4912 on 17 Feb 2009 - 13:05
Same here! I also have a HTC Titan, wonder if it'll run on it too.
(2 replies) #8 Intelman on 16 Feb 2009 - 17:45
Why does IE have to have so many icons cluttering up the space?
#8.1 +Kirkburn on 16 Feb 2009 - 17:57
Intelman said,
Why does IE have to have so many icons cluttering up the space?

I'm sure they hide when unused.
#8.2 Jebadiah on 17 Feb 2009 - 06:31
Because then Apple will say, "You copy Ipinch? I sue you!".
#9 JohnCz on 16 Feb 2009 - 17:58
The Honecomb menu is really nice...far better than some of the screen shots we had seen previously. I hope Microsoft seriously considers bringing this to Windows 7 in some form. That would draw some parallels between desktop and mobile experiences.
#10 ShadowlineDesigns on 16 Feb 2009 - 18:42
I'm not really sure where they would use it in windows 7, Though the menus in 7 could look like the pop up menus in 6.5.
As I am running both 7 and 6.5 (alpha hybrid really) I really do not see much that could carry over to the other.
And the new start menu is a bit slow even on the ones on demo in Barcelona, though that will change. The home screen is like a Zune in ways, which if you look at Win 7's media center, the home screen has the same style.
(12 replies) #11 LTD on 16 Feb 2009 - 19:48
Keep in mind, you'll need to wait up to 9+ months to see this on any device.

MS is perpetually catching up, and then arriving late, then having to catch up even more.
#11.1 /- Razorfold on 16 Feb 2009 - 19:51
LTD said,
Keep in mind, you'll need to wait up to 9+ months to see this on any device.

And by that time . . . well, you know the story.


Dunno what crack you smoke mate, but XDA has working 6.5 builds for like 5 phones now...and more are made every week or so...
#11.2 +bob21 on 16 Feb 2009 - 19:52
Yeah , catching up to a phone that cant multitask or even copy and paste .

Its a huge challenge

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#11.3 LTD on 16 Feb 2009 - 20:09
And yet no one really seems to care. iPhones are flying off the shelves. It's either that all these people are just stupid, or it's all about different priorities now. It's 2009. Not three years ago. The game has changed.

It goes to show that you can have all the features you like, but if they're wrapped in a lousy UI with a poorly-implemented ecosystem, consumers will look elsewhere.

Seems the only people who really get excited about a WinMo device these days are hardcore Microsofties.
#11.4 +bob21 on 16 Feb 2009 - 20:15
You forget that WM devices O-U-T-S-O-L-D Shiphones last year , So make that 20 Million microsofties
#11.5 LTD on 16 Feb 2009 - 20:26
Is that actually impressive??

Windows mobile is on around 40 phones (from the craptastic to the half-decent) and god knows how many providers and it covers the globe. Yet it *barely* outsells the iPhone, which is only a *single* phone with an OS *exclusive to that one device*, sold at a premium, with a very limited number of carriers. And the iPhone has only been around for about 1 year and 8 months. And there were points in time since its release that the iPhone outsold WinMo.

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#11.6 Glendi on 16 Feb 2009 - 20:32
Is that actually impressive??

Windows mobile is on around 40 phones and god knows how many providers and it covers the globe. Yet it *barely* outsells the iPhone, which is only a *single* phone with an OS *exclusive to that one device*, with a very limited number of carriers. And the iPhone has only been around for about 1 year and 8 months. And there were points in time since its release that the iPhone outsold WinMo.


You just said above the only people who get WinMo are hardcore Microsofties >_> and they outsell the iPhone? Then who the hell buys iPhones, hardcore Apples?
#11.7 +bob21 on 16 Feb 2009 - 20:33
I dont see how its any less impressive , 11 million Omnia's 6million Kaisers etc etc etc . You said iPhones are flying off the shelves. so my reply is

And yet no one really seems to care. WM devices are flying off the shelves even more than IPhones , in fact id bet 5$ bet that the new Samsung Omnia outsells IPhones in 2009
#11.8 LTD on 16 Feb 2009 - 20:36
Cheap and plentiful always has a market.

I've never come across a dead Wal-Mart.

The iPhone sells at a premium.
#11.9 +bob21 on 16 Feb 2009 - 20:38
Ah fantastic so 14.5 million IPhones is a wonderful magnificint success and 20Million WM devices is a horific failure .

I smell bias , Of course these devices ARE NOT cheep hell the Omnia has twice the screen resolution of the IPhone so that trashes another one of your rubbish claims

If 14.5 Million is a good yearly figure for Apples devices you have to use the exact same logic and say 20 Million is an even better yearly figure for Windows devices .

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#11.10 LTD on 16 Feb 2009 - 20:46
With the kind of margins Apple has, with the premium price tag of an iPhone, given the fact that it's a single device on limited carriers, with an OS exclusive to that device - that has no video, no cut and paste, and doesn't really multitask . . . it's not really horrifying for MS, but rather embarrassing. And this attempt to cobble together a mobile OS that is barely up to standards set two years ago is even more embarrassing.

You should have gotten this latest iteration of WinMo in 2006, if MS knew what the hell they were doing. But that's their problem. They're never really "first" in anything. Not so much not first in "innovation", but not even in effective implementation. It's a yawnfest. There's no thunder because it's already been stolen. Again.

If I were an MS fan I'd be pretty ****ed about always getting the table scraps when I should have gotten cake the first time around.
#11.11 +Frazell Thomas on 16 Feb 2009 - 20:51
Get serious... The iPhone and Windows Mobile don't directly compete. They target two different types of consumers. Just like how Macy's doesn't compete with WalMart directly...

The smartphone market is growing so much that the numbers almost mean nothing. A sale of an iPhone doesn't mean it is a lost sale of a WM or Palm device. That smartphone market is so small, 13% of cell phone shipment worldwide, that everyone has room to grow immensely. Once the numbers get to around 90% of cell phone shipments we can see who is causing some attrition and directly competing.

Also, the iPhone is young. It it is impossible to say at this stage if the device will survive the test of time. Its one carrier + monthly royalties concept makes it less likely it will command any major marketshare long term.

It will probably become an exclusive device for people who want to show it off as an exclusive item, as it is now. It will be similar to those $75K cell phones. Not everyone can get one so it they are popular in that respect.
#11.12 epple on 17 Feb 2009 - 13:39
"With the kind of margins Apple has, with the premium price tag of an iPhone, given the fact that it's a single device on limited carriers, with an OS exclusive to that device - that has no video, no cut and paste, and doesn't really multitask . . ."

Would that be "table scraps" or "cake"?
#12 +Harlem39s Finest on 16 Feb 2009 - 20:02
nothing spectacular but it looks better than winmo6.
#13 Jugalator on 16 Feb 2009 - 20:05
Personally, I think the UI design is still bad. Graphically, it's starting to look OK, but usability-wise -- no.

Just two examples that immediately popped up in my mind was that the first screenshot is unnecessarily wordy and provokes "tl;dr" feelings. Since MS isn't specific about what's synchronized anyway ("other documents"? what's that?), they could just as well replace "your contacts, calendar, tasks, messages, music, photos, videos, and other documents" with "your mobile device" or "your information". After all -- MS doesn't give a single example of anything that's not synchronized, especially with their "other documents" fine print.

In the honeycomb display, they're also wildly mixing abstract concepts like searching the device with applications. Immediately below Messenger, you have ActiveSync, a completely unrelated application. There are no categories, and it consumes a lot of space to top it off. Put the icons in a traditional list instead, with the text to the right of the icons, and they could fit more here with preserved icon size, possibly being more informative and also able to group the tasks by category.

I can't see this improving without major revisions, and I don't think MS will do major revisions at this point... At the same time, I'm not really surprised. I find it so common to see feature creep clutter Microsoft's interfaces, and this is even right in the honeycomb menu -- a menu designed for simplicity and to be a good overview.

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(3 replies) #14 CalumJR on 16 Feb 2009 - 20:20
It's pretty nice.

It still has the old Messenger icon though and I don't see why they have started putting "Start" again. They (rightfully so) steered away from that in Windows Vista.

I mean, it makes no sense to click "Start" in order to shutdown. It's the worst interface idea ever.
#14.1 +Frazell Thomas on 16 Feb 2009 - 20:42
Windows Mobile is a different platform... There is no "shutdown" option in the Windows Mobile Start Menu...

It makes a lot of sense I think on Windows Mobile...
#14.2 CalumJR on 16 Feb 2009 - 21:22
I disagree, Frazell Thomas.

They are trying to make Windows consistent across platforms, whether that is mobile or computer operating systems, so surely, the way you access the main menu should be consistent?

Is there anything wrong with just putting the Windows logo where it says "Start"? People will now-a-days know that means the 'start' menu. They got used to it on Windows Vista, right?
#14.3 GP007 on 16 Feb 2009 - 22:48
Wait a minute here, clicking "Start" to shutdown does make sense, you just have to think about it a little

"Shutdown" is a process for a PC. "Windows is Shutting down". Like everything else on a computer you START the SHUTDOWN PROCESS.

How does this simple concept not make sense?
#15 Max1978 on 16 Feb 2009 - 20:27
Will PIE6 have an integrated RSS reader?
(2 replies) #16 Obry on 16 Feb 2009 - 21:35
I don't really like the honeycomb interface at all - I think they should have just stuck with standard grid view like everybody else. I hope they have a setting to change it. To me the honeycomb makes it more confusing to glance through the icons and takes up more screen real estate. With a standard grid view you could fit an extra row of icons without making it too cluttered or less touch-friendly plus it looks more clean and organized too.

But you can't really judge by a few screenshots either plus most manufacturers customize the crap out of it. Hope HTC makes something nice looking and more user friendly. The OS/platform is very good IMO but the user interface even though a bit better overall than WM6.1 is still not good.
#16.1 LTD on 16 Feb 2009 - 23:20
The UI elements look slapped together. It's messy.
#16.2 Sacha on 17 Feb 2009 - 00:53
Honeycomb can be disabled on WM6.5, if that's your preference.
#17 timmmay on 16 Feb 2009 - 23:02
damn that's sexy
#18 Nashy on 17 Feb 2009 - 00:00
It looks like a dodgy photoshop job. Was expecting better from MS.
#19 darkmanx21 on 17 Feb 2009 - 00:46
Someone said this was still in Alpha, right? Well, then it looks ok. What's the problem. We won't see it for 6 or 7 months and by then it may be better.

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#20 Sevan on 17 Feb 2009 - 01:12
IE actually looks...... Good

Looks good, I'll be looking forward to this when it comes out.
(2 replies) #21 DSLJay on 17 Feb 2009 - 01:36
I hope that the updated IE will have a normal exit option. Currently on the Omnia, you can not directly exit IE. You have to close the task via the task manager.

Other then that, the new interface looks very sweet. I hope that I can get this update since my cell phone is a recent one.
#21.1 ilaugh on 17 Feb 2009 - 14:13
DSLJay said,
I hope that the updated IE will have a normal exit option. Currently on the Omnia, you can not directly exit IE. You have to close the task via the task manager.

Other then that, the new interface looks very sweet. I hope that I can get this update since my cell phone is a recent one.

Actually, you can change the phone's settings so that the "X" button really does close programs.
#21.2 DSLJay on 18 Feb 2009 - 03:51
That may be true, but it would be nice not to have the user try and figure a way to do it.
#22 Pabs(Sco) on 17 Feb 2009 - 10:51
Can't wait till December now, its WM6.5 device for me next
#23 UKer on 17 Feb 2009 - 10:57
Seems to be shaping up well, still using WM5 on my old Axim but considering a smartphone when I upgrade in around 12 months, so will probabaly get one of these as I'm familiar with WM, and have been developing applications for it for the last 4 years.
(2 replies) #24 -Bryce- on 17 Feb 2009 - 13:41
that is hideous. who is designing this????
#24.1 LTD1 on 17 Feb 2009 - 14:07
When everything you do is a *reaction* to your competitor, the results are often not very pretty. MS will get this right, but by *that* time . . . (see my posts above.)
#24.2 +bob21 on 18 Feb 2009 - 10:31
How o you explain the fact that the exact same UI was present in WM6.0 Standard , Time Travel ?

Another silly illogical post curtacy of LTD , Now run , run little flame monkey just like you awalys do when your nonsense is proven wrong

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