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NVIDIA respond to Intel chipset court filing

Sam Alderwick   on 18 February 2009 - 22:54 · 20 comments & 4928 views

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Earlier today, NVIDIA responded to a court filing by Intel, regarding a chipset license agreement. The agreement, made 4 years ago, was that NVIDIA would be able to use its chipsets with Intel based motherboards. In exchange for this, NVIDIA would provide Intel with graphics "innovations" such as SLI and Hybrid Power. Now, with the Core i7 range out (which feature integrated memory controllers) and details out on the future Westmere processors (which integrate more features, in particular, the graphics controller), Intel has claimed that the existing agreement no longer applies.

NVIDIA has argued that the agreement is more about the end of CPU lifecycle, as opposed to Intel's argument that because their new processors feature integrated controllers, the deal is off. Jen-Hsun Huang, CEO of NVIDIA said "At the heart of this issue is that the CPU has run its course and the soul of the PC is shifting quickly to the GPU. This is clearly an attempt to stifle innovation to protect a decaying CPU business."

NVIDIA also boasted that its ION platform is 10 times faster than Intel's GMA 945, and also gave a gentle reminder that Apple used NVIDIA's chipset in its entire range of notebooks last year, which could create some difficulties for Apple should the agreement fall apart.

Both companies have something to lose, but the question is: which one will lose the most? Intel could effectively prevent NVIDIA producing any chipsets for their Nehalem based processor range (although, regardless of what happens, the decision won't affect systems using Intel's current bus interface). However, NVIDIA's ION platform has better performance and uses less physical space than Intel's equivalent, and they also provide numerous technologies which one can only assume Intel has created alternatives for.

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(1 reply) #1 Sazz181 on 18 Feb 2009 - 23:04
Personally, I think NVIDIA will end up worse off, espacially when you consider that they've been desperately trying to resolve this issue out of court for the last year (check the press release for evidence). And besides, claiming that Intel is protecting a "decaying CPU business" is hardly the way to make things better.

Either way, I think that was a pretty crafty move by Intel, and I think worse of them for it, especially if the agreement does indeed fall apart.
#1.1 qwertz123 on 18 Feb 2009 - 23:14
nvidia did appeal to intels latest QPI license agreements back in summer 2008 and since then nothing was official said about it. but now out of the sudden intel sues them (the true reason is still obscure to me) and all what huang did was a press report. i really fail to see WHY this is a smart move by intel, unless u r from america and think monopoly is just a game...go figure!

Last edited by qwertz123 on 19 Feb 2009 - 05:10
(2 replies) #2 +Xerxes on 18 Feb 2009 - 23:04
This is just petty squabbling, a case of "mine is better then yours" is what it seems to me.
#2.1 Sazz181 on 18 Feb 2009 - 23:07
Yeah, and unfortunately NVIDIA is quiet dependant on Intel in some respects (although some could argue that they should have seen this coming).
#2.2 qwertz123 on 18 Feb 2009 - 23:22
its still the war between gpu and cpu, or should i say the very first land surveying for the gpgpu era?
#3 Raa on 18 Feb 2009 - 23:24
Well if nVidia are out of the motherboard chipset race, maybe thats no loss with all the bugs i've heard/read/seen in the last few platforms. I nearly bought one myself too!
(3 replies) #4 Thirtythree on 19 Feb 2009 - 00:42
Considering how unstable nVIDIA chipsets are...I wouldn't want my CPU running on them either.

http://gizmodo.com/373076/nvidia-responsib...crashes-in-2007
#4.1 qwertz123 on 19 Feb 2009 - 01:00
u mean how sucky intels PSB was?


try harder....
#4.2 Nodiaque on 19 Feb 2009 - 01:07
Wow, you didn't do you're homework didn'T you? The page you just link report back when Vista just got out, where most of people are running nvidia drivers that wasn't final yet cause of microsoft didn't help them out on making them.

Also, most of them were comming from the graphic card (guy say ppl running computer that doesn't have any cards, if it doesn't have a card, it got a build-in one since it's nvidia chipset, so it does, in fact, run a graphic card). Ans since we play with numbers, I can show you how much it's the fault of the wind that you're computer crash in winters! Statistics and numbers are nothing, you make them say what you want.

Also, for those drivers, since SP1, how many time did nvidia made a crash? ( I could even say before). I'm having a lot more problem with my ATI one then nvidia. Oh yeah, and at least, links on nvidia web site are working, not like ati where I cannot download my graphic card drivers from cause I get a unautorize access and not found error when redirecting for the download, good job ATI!
#4.3 Thirtythree on 19 Feb 2009 - 15:25
@Nodiaque
Microsoft doesn't make drivers. How could they have "helped" nVIDIA? They gave everyone the requirements for the driver model and it's up to the manufacturer's development team to make proper and stable drivers.

Yet another fanatic that blames Microsoft when they had nothing to do with it...
#5 Nodiaque on 19 Feb 2009 - 01:01
OH wow, like no other chipset never had any issue. I've got my hand on a asus mobo with Intel chipset and it's the third time I send it back in a year because of problem. Got 4 other nvidia, no problem on all of them. Got 1 VIA, work great (for internet/word/mail). Have some intel at job, some of them work, others don't. Not everything is in the chipset, drivers are for something too, bios, firmware, motherboard all over it, integration of other component. I've been on nvidia for the last 5 years and no problem. I've seen some other broke, it's like hard drive. Some will say that maxtor sucks, other that it's seagate, wd or other hard disk. Though, I've got nearly all kind of hard drive and at least 1 of each branch have jumped. Stop saying that something isn't good for 1-2 bad experience, check at large. Yes, I know that some specific mobo had problem with chipset x, but that chipset is on many more board that work flawlessly...
(1 reply) #6 hagjohn on 19 Feb 2009 - 02:09
Good news for AMD.
#6.1 qwertz123 on 19 Feb 2009 - 02:34
u mean ATIC?

(1 reply) #7 CronicHazel on 19 Feb 2009 - 02:36
This is when AMD + ATi's merge starts to shine. :0 It appears they might've done the right thing in merging ahead of time, haha.

They don't have to muddle through the same mess nvidia and Intel's going thru.
:X
#7.1 qwertz123 on 19 Feb 2009 - 02:40
the end? true!

i mean that something that ati/amd is crowling through.

finally amd got his headshot; so its just a question about time when ati will receive the golden bullet too!

Last edited by qwertz123 on 19 Feb 2009 - 02:45
(2 replies) #8 Airlink on 19 Feb 2009 - 03:46
There's nothing stopping Nvidia from designing and building a chipset that works with an Intel designed reference PCB, so I don't know WTF they're bitching about. It's a moot point anyways: Nvidia is out of the chipset business.

Intel FTW.
#8.1 RAID 0 on 19 Feb 2009 - 05:00
Airlink said,
Intel FTW.


Amen
#8.2 qwertz123 on 20 Feb 2009 - 11:54
[< snipped > - CalumJR]


its NOT about intel or xyz; its about WHAT i can expect from tomorrow!

Last edited by CalumJR on 20 Feb 2009 - 16:27
(2 replies) #9 on 01 Jan 1970 - 00:00
#9.1 RAID 0 on 19 Feb 2009 - 04:58
qwertz123 said,
intel=nazi


That's a little harsh.
#9.2 s3n4te on 19 Feb 2009 - 15:13
IBM = Nazi

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