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Windows 7 build 7057 leaks

Chaks   on 12 March 2009 - 02:09 · 166 comments & 102977 views

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With few weeks left for Windows 7 RC to be released, some Neowin users have found Windows 7 build 7057 in the wild. The build string reads - 7057.0.x86fre.winmain.090305-2000 which means that this was compiled on March 5.



The EULA reads this for now



Yes, this makes it clear that Microsoft is already cooking its Windows 7 RC builds (not final build though)

The most immediate change users would notice is the new welcome and shutdown screen




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(12 replies) #1 Stanclift on 12 Mar 2009 - 02:15
Diggin' the new startup screen.
#1.1 ChrisJ1968 on 12 Mar 2009 - 02:27
Yeah, me too. awesome
#1.2 andrewbares on 12 Mar 2009 - 03:08
+1

It looks really nice. I hope it's animated though, not just a picture.
#1.3 +warwagon on 12 Mar 2009 - 03:25
Stanclift said,
Diggin' the new startup screen.



I mss the old class look of XP without the welcome screen that just said "Windows is starting up"
#1.4 Radiant on 12 Mar 2009 - 04:02
Stanclift said,
Diggin' the new startup screen.


+1

Nice startup screens indeed
#1.5 Rev. on 12 Mar 2009 - 04:07
Looks real clean.
#1.6 The Real Alex on 12 Mar 2009 - 05:13
I digg it. I plan to upgrade my Vista PC when it releases.
#1.7 +Kirbeh on 12 Mar 2009 - 05:45
I love it I wish I could test it out. I hope its animated, like above.
#1.8 FusionOpz on 12 Mar 2009 - 11:28
warwagon said,
I mss the old class look of XP without the welcome screen that just said "Windows is starting up"

I miss the DOS start up screens, doesn't mean there practical
#1.9 Tamilboy86 on 12 Mar 2009 - 16:11
Nice logon screen

warwagon said,
I mss the old class look of XP without the welcome screen that just said "Windows is starting up"


why tell people that "windows is starting up", when they know that... "welcome" looks much more simple..
#1.10 dimithrak on 12 Mar 2009 - 18:18
Stanclift said,
Diggin' the new startup screen.



DAAYYAAAAMM!!!!.. cannot wait to see the final version of this OS.. I hope they do more to it......

I feel Microsoft will hit a homerun with this once the release the final version..

In a way. Thank god Vista screwed up.. (to an extent )
#1.11 toadeater on 12 Mar 2009 - 22:23
warwagon said,
I mss the old class look of XP without the welcome screen that just said "Windows is starting up"


Yeah, I'd like to avoid drama on my desktop, I want something that stays in the background and doesn't harass me, and isn't brighter and more colorful than the content I'm reading or working on!

There's too much fantasy adventure with the glowing orbs, flowery backgrounds and various other touchy-feely, quasi-Web 2.0 decorative effects and high stylings that the colorblind fruitcake who has been designing the Windows GUI since Vista has added. Seriously, who's going to want this in their office or as a gaming PC? Vista was bad enough with its gradients, now Microsoft has discovered flowers and glowing effects.

I know Steve Ballmer is behind this.

"Ok, we've got enough gradients and glowing effects, now we need... let's see... what do people want.... FLOWERS! We need more flowers!"

This looks so tacky and pitiful compared to what even amateur designers have done it makes me want to laugh, only I'm not laughing because we're going to be stuck with these design choices for years, seeing them every day, at work and at home.

I still hope this is all just beta period experimentation and MS is going to have a new GUI for 7, rather than an even more flashy looking version of Vista's.

And don't tell me to use Windows classic, because that's no excuse.
#1.12 qwertz123 on 13 Mar 2009 - 13:41
dimithrak said,
DAAYYAAAAMM!!!!.. cannot wait to see the final version of this OS.. I hope they do more to it......

I feel Microsoft will hit a homerun with this once the release the final version..

In a way. Thank god Vista screwed up.. (to an extent )


wut?

anyway. what never ceases to amaze u.

thats, my dear, is something i really love to enjoy so much: http://www.epdlp.com/fotos/kubin4.jpg
(5 replies) #2 luis mazza on 12 Mar 2009 - 02:21
Dubious taste for those screens.
#2.1 Chaks on 12 Mar 2009 - 02:23
What if the welcome and shutdown screens are associated with the themes?

They included sound schemes into themes in build 7048, so why not custom startup screens from this build?
#2.2 andrewbares on 12 Mar 2009 - 03:08
Huh, good idea if they did that with the themes!
#2.3 luis mazza on 12 Mar 2009 - 03:12
I hope so I just hope they are not trying to go for a "vine style OS" bleh
#2.4 kheldorin on 12 Mar 2009 - 09:16
@chaks
If they do that, they'll run the risk of OEMS putting on their own themes which might not represent the image that MS wants to be known for. It would not be recognizable as a Windows 7 machine. But yeah, as a user I want it to be customizable.
#2.5 Calum on 13 Mar 2009 - 04:04
kheldorin said,
@chaks
If they do that, they'll run the risk of OEMS putting on their own themes which might not represent the image that MS wants to be known for. It would not be recognizable as a Windows 7 machine. But yeah, as a user I want it to be customizable.

They will provide guidelines for OEMs to follow. OEMs will follow these because otherwise Microsoft will not allow them to install Windows on their products
(1 reply) #3 Nehemoth on 12 Mar 2009 - 02:25
I like this setup.
#3.1 Faisal Islam on 12 Mar 2009 - 04:39
me too
(3 replies) #4 Kevin. on 12 Mar 2009 - 02:26
I absolutely love the new startup and shutdown screens!
#4.1 vetSHoTTa35 on 12 Mar 2009 - 02:53
i think they are growing on me more and more (granted i only saw them 2 times each so far) but at first i wasn't so sure. Seems kinda "fabulous" at first
#4.2 andrewbares on 12 Mar 2009 - 03:09
"fabulous" for sure.

It looks so elegant and green at the same time, like it's trying to say it's both beautiful and energy conservative.
#4.3 Faisal Islam on 12 Mar 2009 - 04:39
+1
(2 replies) #5 Intelman on 12 Mar 2009 - 02:28
New startup and shutdown screens, maybe new sounds?
#5.1 Chaks on 12 Mar 2009 - 02:33
new sound schemes are already available in build 7048
#5.2 rm20010 on 12 Mar 2009 - 03:00
New sounds are there, except for the Welcome sound which is still Vista's.
#6 +Xerxes on 12 Mar 2009 - 02:30
It's coming together nicely I'm looking forward to trying out the official RC1 build when it releases.
#7 +vip on 12 Mar 2009 - 02:35
looks good ... can't wait for RC1
(2 replies) #8 Calum on 12 Mar 2009 - 02:40
I really am excited for the release candidate even more now, as it will be the first time I install Windows 7

I love the new 'Welcome' and 'Shut Down' screens, but the 'loading' cursor now doesn't seem to go with those and I think that needs updating.
#8.1 Trajik 2600 on 12 Mar 2009 - 15:31
Calum said,
I love the new 'Welcome' and 'Shut Down' screens, but the 'loading' cursor now doesn't seem to go with those and I think that needs updating.


I was thinking the exact same thing. Definitely looks like a "holdover" from Vista now. I don't mind it as a mouse cursor for "waiting," but as a status icon, it's out of place and ugly.
#8.2 Calum on 13 Mar 2009 - 04:03
Trajik 2600 said,
I was thinking the exact same thing. Definitely looks like a "holdover" from Vista now. I don't mind it as a mouse cursor for "waiting," but as a status icon, it's out of place and ugly.

Definitely! I'll be giving feedback to Microsoft about this when the release candidate is released!
#9 Hidr0 on 12 Mar 2009 - 02:50
ok beside the new on/off screens... whats improved?
#10 vetSHoTTa35 on 12 Mar 2009 - 02:50
loving it here too I love the beta days of the Windows OS!
#11 +Ely on 12 Mar 2009 - 03:05
I think it looks very neat and the style of the bootup/logoff screens marks a difference in terms of design by Microsoft, very different to what they've had us used to I think.
(3 replies) #12 splur on 12 Mar 2009 - 03:36
ohh, very... prince of persia. the welcome/shut down screens should fly you from one portal to the next as well!

he's using virtualbox?
#12.1 dewaaz on 12 Mar 2009 - 04:03
Nah he's using VMWare... where'd you get virtualbox from?

You can see the program name on the titlebar



And damn can they please change the icons from the Vista ones? Geez :/
#12.2 siyama on 12 Mar 2009 - 04:31
dewaaz said,
Nah he's using VMWare... where'd you get virtualbox from?

You can see the program name on the titlebar



And damn can they please change the icons from the Vista ones? Geez :/


The last picture say, Sun xVM VirtualBox. So it absolutely not VMWare.
#12.3 dewaaz on 12 Mar 2009 - 06:29
LOL yes I saw that - I was being sarcastic 8-)

#13 Caveman-ugh on 12 Mar 2009 - 04:00
Not much info on this build, I would like to know some more please !!!!
(6 replies) #14 Caveman-ugh on 12 Mar 2009 - 04:01
for example in this build have they fixed the UAC ???
#14.1 Tekkerson on 12 Mar 2009 - 04:08
Not yet. I don't seem to be prompted every second like Vista's UAC. Guess it'll come either in RC or maybe RTM.
#14.2 +Kirkburn on 12 Mar 2009 - 04:22
Tekkerson said,
Not yet. I don't seem to be prompted every second like Vista's UAC. Guess it'll come either in RC or maybe RTM.

Dunno what fix you're thinking of, but that ain't it. It's not going to get more strict.

Caveman, I have heard from elsewhere the 'UAC level change prompt' update is in this build.
#14.3 Tekkerson on 12 Mar 2009 - 04:54
Don't be silly kirkburn, I'm running the 7057 build (maybe I forgot to mention that) but if I wasn't using it right now I wouldn't have answered his question.

Microsoft said they'd change it in RC build, so I was right. There's no change to the UAC security as far as 7057 yet (7057 BUILD IS NOT THE RC, just fyi). If you don't hear it from me you'll hear it somewhere else if you don't believe me, just wait

You need to stop hearing stuff and make sure you're right before you say something.

Here's the article:

http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/02/06/m...or-in-windows-7
#14.4 rseiler on 12 Mar 2009 - 06:55
"Changing the level of the UAC will also prompt for confirmation" IS in 7057. Try it. That doesn't make this RC though. Could be an RC to the RC. We don't know yet.
#14.5 Tekkerson on 12 Mar 2009 - 08:04
Oh! My bad, I thought he meant the "fix" where Microsoft was going to have UAC at maximum setting by default. Sorry for the misunderstanding!
#14.6 +Kirkburn on 12 Mar 2009 - 09:35
Tekkerson said,
Oh! My bad, I thought he meant the "fix" where Microsoft was going to have UAC at maximum setting by default. Sorry for the misunderstanding!

That's okay, I thought it was just a misreading too Fortunately they're not going down the 'more strict' road, but fixing some issues.
(4 replies) #15 artfuldodga on 12 Mar 2009 - 04:13
wow sweet new startup, i can't imagine the changes in the end product ... poll, whos buying windows 7 when it goes retail? and did you buy vista

Last edited by artfuldodga on 12 Mar 2009 - 04:28
#15.1 iamwhoiam on 12 Mar 2009 - 04:41
I'll be getting 7 when it's final. I didn't but Vista as I got it for free from the PowerTogether promo. Hopefull 7 will have something similar.
#15.2 artfuldodga on 12 Mar 2009 - 04:49
yeah, i happened upon vista via a new laptop, gave it some time and ended up liking it
#15.3 +DonC on 12 Mar 2009 - 09:53
artfuldodga said,
wow sweet new startup, i can't imagine the changes in the end product ... poll, whos buying windows 7 when it goes retail? and did you buy vista

I'm getting it for sure - also got Vista too.
#15.4 neo158 on 12 Mar 2009 - 12:12
Same here, I'll get Windows 7 when it hits retail. I also bought Vista too.
#16 TheNay on 12 Mar 2009 - 04:21
Looks good
(2 replies) #17 :: Lyon :: on 12 Mar 2009 - 04:35
Is this the same as the RC build or the RC build may have a different build number?
#17.1 Calum on 12 Mar 2009 - 05:10
The release candidate build will have a newer build number. This one is a little bit too buggy.

Last edited by Calum on 13 Mar 2009 - 02:33
#17.2 :: Lyon :: on 12 Mar 2009 - 05:18
Thanks Calum. I'll wait til the final RC then
#18 Prince17 on 12 Mar 2009 - 04:39
looks beautiful
#19 Sam Symons Live on 12 Mar 2009 - 04:50
I like it.
(1 reply) #20 Ghostdraconi on 12 Mar 2009 - 04:54
Great, I just finished installing Build 7048 and I log into neowin and see this.
#20.1 Tekkerson on 12 Mar 2009 - 05:06
Lmao the same thing happened to me (but I saw it in the forums). Then I had to wait like an hour to get 7057 build, not much time was lost and totally worth it. One thing I might add is that on previous builds before 7057 I'd get raid 0 installation problems. Windows 7 refused to recognize my striped drives. I'd usually have to do ridiculous maneuvers like uncheck the (hide uncompatible drivers) for my nforce raid drivers. Then redo it like 15-20 times in many different ways with tons of restarts (I'm not kidding, but that does make me sound a little desperate to get it installed in raid 0 haha). Took me once 2 days to get my comp back up back in build 7022, then a couple of hours for build 7048 which was today. But in build 7057 I just installed the normal sata_raid and sata_ide drivers ONCE without having to redo it. I DON'T know if I got extremely lucky or if this driver bug, whatever you want to call it was fixed.
(8 replies) #21 timster on 12 Mar 2009 - 05:05
just installed 7057 and now can't sign into Windows Live Messenger. error code: 8e5e0645
#21.1 lee26 on 12 Mar 2009 - 05:10
No problems my end.
#21.2 Tekkerson on 12 Mar 2009 - 05:12
You scared me a little, but like lee26 no problems here either.
#21.3 timster on 12 Mar 2009 - 05:31
i still can't sign in and can't find anything out about the error code
#21.4 Tekkerson on 12 Mar 2009 - 05:33
Might a reinstall be too much?
#21.5 timster on 12 Mar 2009 - 05:39
yea, just fixed the problem. just had to delete a couple folders under AppData
#21.6 Tekkerson on 12 Mar 2009 - 06:28
Oh yeah, I had read about that but it was too long to remember. Glad you didn't pay attention to my "advice" haha.
#21.7 shadmo2012 on 12 Mar 2009 - 19:47
timster said,
yea, just fixed the problem. just had to delete a couple folders under AppData


I have this problem too. Can you give details on the fix please. Much appreciated.
#21.8 shadmo2012 on 12 Mar 2009 - 20:11
NM,,, I found this solution:

Go to:
C:Users\AppDataLocalMicrosoft

Delete folder "Windows Live Contacts"
#22 Premgenius on 12 Mar 2009 - 05:53
Very nice
(1 reply) #23 lee26 on 12 Mar 2009 - 06:20
I can't believe people are reading so much into the expire date. We should all be happy that we won't have to go back to vista/xp before it gets RTM'd.
#23.1 Caveman-ugh on 12 Mar 2009 - 06:43
I second that thought !
#24 Erikas on 12 Mar 2009 - 07:15
Very nice. Nice unexpected surprise (well at least unexpected for me)
#25 Tom W on 12 Mar 2009 - 07:33
Lovely login screen, was hoping they would change it
#26 DaRkMaDnEsS on 12 Mar 2009 - 07:46
well seems it was leaked out there

any one have been able to give us some pictures?
(7 replies) #27 Sam Symons Live on 12 Mar 2009 - 07:54
Funny, I thought people didn't like Neowin posting news about illegal things :p I kid, but still.
#27.1 Jugalator on 12 Mar 2009 - 07:59
I think illegal leaks are all OK as long as you don't OMG LINK TO THEIR SOURCES.
#27.2 Sam Symons Live on 12 Mar 2009 - 08:09
Jugalator said,
I think illegal leaks are all OK as long as you don't OMG LINK TO THEIR SOURCES.

Luckily I don't do that :p
#27.3 Sam Symons Live on 12 Mar 2009 - 08:09
Jugalator said,
I think illegal leaks are all OK as long as you don't OMG LINK TO THEIR SOURCES.

Ick, double post.
#27.4 Jugalator on 12 Mar 2009 - 08:15
Heh, I was never claiming you did.

I was hinting at the sometimes rather odd thin line though. Given the build string on Neowin, it takes about 3.4 seconds to Google for a source.
#27.5 tom5 on 12 Mar 2009 - 08:18
Sam Symons Live said,
Funny, I thought people didn't like Neowin posting news about illegal things :p I kid, but still.

I like Neowin posting news about everything on topic. This is definitely on topic. Without the links this is 100% OK.
#27.6 Sam Symons Live on 12 Mar 2009 - 08:28
tom5 said,
I like Neowin posting news about everything on topic. This is definitely on topic. Without the links this is 100% OK.

Precisely! I personally love this type of news I agree with you Jugulator :p Don't worry, I know you weren't claiming I do I just remember someone complained to me that we post build leaks..confused me at times, heh. Ah well. I best be quiet now, before I start an argument with somebody lol.
#27.7 +dead.cell on 12 Mar 2009 - 16:05
Yeah, you don't want me jumping in and getting all serious.

Seriously though, I hope Frogboy sees to it that none of the Stardock products do get leaked ahead of time. I can assure you that, given the examples set forth by Neowin, I'll be the first as well as the loudest one to shout the news.
(4 replies) #28 Jugalator on 12 Mar 2009 - 07:59
I masturbate to this new startup screen now. Loving it. I'll just lock my door now.

Anyway, larger image:
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9651/desktopp.png

Nothing special going on with the superbar there, that's visible in that screenshot at least, but it's good to settle one's curiosity at least. :p

Last edited by Jugalator on 12 Mar 2009 - 08:04
#28.1 +DonC on 12 Mar 2009 - 09:57
Jugalator said,
Nothing special going on with the superbar there, that's visible in that screenshot at least, but it's good to settle one's curiosity at least. :p

Hang on - I just noticed the brighter shade of glass background that distinguishes between the orb, the application icons and the tray icons?
#28.2 C_Guy on 12 Mar 2009 - 15:40
"Hello...Smithers...You're quite good....at....turning...me.....on"

"Ummmmmm... you probably should ignore that"
#28.3 +dead.cell on 12 Mar 2009 - 16:07
DonC said,
Hang on - I just noticed the brighter shade of glass background that distinguishes between the orb, the application icons and the tray icons?


Very hard to tell considering the non-transparent theme is being used.
#28.4 Calum on 13 Mar 2009 - 03:57
Jugalator said,
I masturbate to this new startup screen now. Loving it. I'll just lock my door now.

You don't know how much that comment has made my night!
(1 reply) #29 Dannydeman on 12 Mar 2009 - 08:10
They should also change the welcome text though. Remove the orb, and make it bigger and more smooth. But it's coming nicely together. Can you imagine this is just RC1? This will be the most polished version of Windows ever released.
#29.1 Sam Symons Live on 12 Mar 2009 - 08:48
Dannydeman said,
They should also change the welcome text though. Remove the orb, and make it bigger and more smooth. But it's coming nicely together. Can you imagine this is just RC1? This will be the most polished version of Windows ever released.

I read somewhere this morning that Windows 7 Beta outperforms Vista SP2 and XP SP3 It definitely will be the most polished ever. Party on, Microsoft...I can't wait.
(2 replies) #30 FoxieFoxie on 12 Mar 2009 - 09:05
List of changes, please?
#30.1 +Kirkburn on 12 Mar 2009 - 09:37
FoxieFoxie said,
List of changes, please?

Um, this article? MS don't provide changelogs, especially for leaked builds (!), so it's up to the community to find changes at the moment.
#30.2 FoxieFoxie on 12 Mar 2009 - 09:40
Kirkburn said,
Um, this article? MS don't provide changelogs, especially for leaked builds (!), so it's up to the community to find changes at the moment.


7000 > 7048 had a list of changes, etc. This article says: new startup screen, terms of c...
(2 replies) #31 cork1958 on 12 Mar 2009 - 10:24
Almost getting rediculous in their way of trying to put Vista behind them already!!
#31.1 rhz on 12 Mar 2009 - 12:51
what did you expect?
#31.2 testman on 12 Mar 2009 - 14:38
cork1958 said,
Almost getting rediculous in their way of trying to put Vista behind them already!!

Actually 2-3 years is the usual time for Microsoft to produce a version of Windows. Just look at all previous versions of Windows prior to Vista. Vista was the exception. So Microsoft aren't trying to put Vista behind them at all, no special case here.
#32 DaViD_BRaNDoN on 12 Mar 2009 - 10:40
Nice startup/shutdown screen! Wonder where can we get those screen for use as wallpaper...
#33 opensuse on 12 Mar 2009 - 11:36
lol @ licensed to Sgt.Riggs
(1 reply) #34 shakey_snake on 12 Mar 2009 - 12:25
RU and SL?

Only the Ruskie and Slovene builds in the wild or something?
#34.1 Jugalator on 12 Mar 2009 - 14:25
No, however Russian and Slovenian users (it's the user-customizable keyboard layout) -- I guess they somehow got their hands on this early on.
(4 replies) #35 ThePitt on 12 Mar 2009 - 12:48
seems like is a big change. I mean, the welcome screen. Its a lot of work to do that. Recompiling and add a new bmp probably is one of the most hardest tasks on this world
#35.1 FoxieFoxie on 12 Mar 2009 - 13:37
ThePitt said,
seems like is a big change. I mean, the welcome screen. Its a lot of work to do that. Recompiling and add a new bmp probably is one of the most hardest tasks on this world


You do realise that MS can't go to Google, seek for "nice wallpaper" and add it as welcome screen, right?
#35.2 Jugalator on 12 Mar 2009 - 14:20
LOL
#35.3 roadwarrior on 12 Mar 2009 - 14:27
FoxieFoxie said,
You do realise that MS can't go to Google, seek for "nice wallpaper" and add it as welcome screen, right?


It's not like they would have to anyway though, MS owns one of the largest collections of photography and art in the world.
#35.4 Calum on 13 Mar 2009 - 03:53
ThePitt said,
seems like is a big change. I mean, the welcome screen. Its a lot of work to do that. Recompiling and add a new bmp probably is one of the most hardest tasks on this world

The welcome screen is not the only change in this build. More bugs would have been fixed and there are a few user interface tweaks.

I suggest you research how software development works, for your own sake
#36 andy2004 on 12 Mar 2009 - 12:51
interesting that the eval runs out in 2010 perhaps that article about not releasing this year might have had some truth to it ?
#37 Island Dog on 12 Mar 2009 - 12:56
Looking real nice!
(2 replies) #38 Udedenkz on 12 Mar 2009 - 13:44
No x64 leak?
#38.1 souldreamer on 12 Mar 2009 - 13:53
Udedenkz said,
No x64 leak?


No. At least for now...
#38.2 Airlink on 12 Mar 2009 - 16:19
Cr*p.

Last edited by Calum on 13 Mar 2009 - 03:51
#39 Disengage on 12 Mar 2009 - 16:22
WTB 64 bit. : (. Lovin the pic's though I want this BADDDDD.
(3 replies) #40 hardgiant on 12 Mar 2009 - 16:27
I found x64 but can't say where.
#40.1 +Ely on 12 Mar 2009 - 16:55
Don't be cruel
#40.2 FoxieFoxie on 12 Mar 2009 - 21:18
hardgiant said,
I found x64 but can't say where.


Your magic castle?
#40.3 hardgiant on 13 Mar 2009 - 02:19
I downloaded it and it turned out to be 32-bit version. I'm sure the REAL x64 will leak very soon.
#41 +dead.cell on 12 Mar 2009 - 16:44
Thanks for informing me, Neowin! I'll go check out the torrent sites now!!
(1 reply) #42 zeke009 on 12 Mar 2009 - 16:55
Very cool, I'll have to download this to upgrade the old machine at home I have running build 7000 32bit. Looks pretty cool, can't wait to see how they've fine tuned it. Guess the machine isn't that old now that I think about it... P4 3.0GHz, 2.5GB DDR-400, 80GB hdd and a 8800GT.

I wonder where hardgiant found x64, I've got a VM just waiting to get upgraded as well!
#42.1 +dead.cell on 12 Mar 2009 - 17:11
I think he was just joking.

Just hang tight though, I'm sure Neowin will report as soon as the x64 version hits the torrent sites.
(1 reply) #43 asfaltas on 12 Mar 2009 - 21:27
my internet very fast on this build
#43.1 Matthew Waldron on 12 Mar 2009 - 22:09
asfaltas said,
my internet very fast on this build



Check Skype and Cross loop for me.. Make sure it works wirelessly without losing drivers.
#44 timmmay on 12 Mar 2009 - 23:25
Awesome build...best so far
#45 kevpan815 on 13 Mar 2009 - 01:47
Notice that says RC1 and not RC which means that MSFT may be planning additional RC's if needed!
(1 reply) #46 kevpan815 on 13 Mar 2009 - 01:53
Looks like I was right about RTM not being due out until 01/2010, just fyi.
#46.1 timster on 13 Mar 2009 - 03:08
I doubt it. RC builds (and build close to RC, like this one) tend to expire about 3-4 months after RTM.

Vista RC1/RC2 didn't expire until May 2007, almost a full 4 months after retail
(1 reply) #47 kevpan815 on 13 Mar 2009 - 03:40
@timster, notice that Build 7057 does not expire until 02/03/2010!
#47.1 +kpo6969 on 13 Mar 2009 - 08:40
03/01/2010
#48 kevpan815 on 13 Mar 2009 - 04:24
I also predict that my 3rd party source about RC1 not being due out until 06/2009 and/or 07/2009 is true as well!
#49 koinonia on 13 Mar 2009 - 09:04
Where's the x64 version =D
#50 hamadauno on 13 Mar 2009 - 09:22
waiting it
(9 replies) #51 dpcdpc11 on 13 Mar 2009 - 10:59
and everybody masturbated on the new welcome screen! damn you're easy to impress... 1 point goes to M$ in this round... pathetic losers! This is exactly what this new windows crap needs... a new welcome screen not a new kernel, improved stability, better performance etc! And if when it comes to visual effects... add about 10 mouse cursors theme, 10 visual themes and for **ck's sake.. let us install our own styles and themes without having to patch the theme files(uxtheme.dll, themeui.dll, shsvcs.dll)... or at least hire some damn professional designers to make a bunch of themes and offer them out of the box... but nooo... M$ is wayyyy too cheap to make such an investment... All we got for vista were some extra(****ty btw) dreamscenes and 2 sound schemes... wooow now that was a real gift... thaaaaank youuuuu M$! Also we are stuck with one type of minimizing and maximizing effect.. now that really makes Aero a charming environment! Even linux has more effects plus many cool things when it comes to visuals like jelly windows and stuff... u just gotta love compiz! if people can do that for free imagine what they could do for money... just an idea!
And yet nobody seems to care about these things... but hey... we got a new welcome screen... that makes up for everything else!
#51.1 ir0nw0lf on 13 Mar 2009 - 14:20
Wished I could get my 2 minutes back after reading that babble...
#51.2 schubb on 13 Mar 2009 - 17:58
dpcdpc11 said,
.. not a new kernel, improved stability, better performance etc...


Wow are you right, it isn't like I was able to load windows 7 on a 5 year IBM R40 thinkpad with 1G of ram and and 32MB video card and have it run pretty smoothly. Obviously I won't be doing any video editing, but everything runs great. Vista wouldn't even load, Windows 7 loaded, had drivers, and was up in running in about an hour, and it hasn't crashed yet, been 4 months now.
#51.3 k7of9 on 13 Mar 2009 - 18:31
You're right, the absence of jelly windows is definitely a severe problem in Windows...

I always have to laugh at people that seem to think a new kernel is needed in order for Windows to be truly new. Especially considering there's really not much wrong with the kernel. Kernel, it's the magic word for some people so it seems. I bet you can't even explain me what a kernel is and what it truly affects.

You blame others for being pathetic because they like a login screen while you truly show how superficial you are by judging an entire OS based on a screenshot. You seem to only judge a book by it's cover so to say.

If you would have used Windows 7 you would now that it IS more stable and that it IS performing better and that usability has improved greatly.

Furthermore if you're so psyched about Compiz wobbly windows and what not, why just not use it and be happy with it and leave us losers struggling with that inferior OS? Obviously you're way to good to use Windows, so how can this article even interest you, let alone be worth commenting on?
#51.4 dpcdpc11 on 14 Mar 2009 - 02:51
ir0nw0lf said,
Wished I could get my 2 minutes back after reading that babble...

so it took you 2 mins to read my ****... there's a genius on the rise!
#51.5 dpcdpc11 on 14 Mar 2009 - 03:10
k7of9 said,
You're right, the absence of jelly windows is definitely a severe problem in Windows...

I always have to laugh at people that seem to think a new kernel is needed in order for Windows to be truly new. Especially considering there's really not much wrong with the kernel. Kernel, it's the magic word for some people so it seems. I bet you can't even explain me what a kernel is and what it truly affects.

You blame others for being pathetic because they like a login screen while you truly show how superficial you are by judging an entire OS based on a screenshot. You seem to only judge a book by it's cover so to say.

If you would have used Windows 7 you would now that it IS more stable and that it IS performing better and that usability has improved greatly.

Furthermore if you're so psyched about Compiz wobbly windows and what not, why just not use it and be happy with it and leave us losers struggling with that inferior OS? Obviously you're way to good to use Windows, so how can this article even interest you, let alone be worth commenting on?


another genius.. good.. the world really needs people like your my friend... you know where right? at the bottom of the grand canyon! don't you think that after all these years M$ is into OS business the stability and performance would be common sense? let's give M$ the nobel piece price for making a stable OS in 2009! so let's work with the current kernel, ok? at least for now which is pretty stable on my Vista 64 machine.. and yeah... they need some geniuses there to make the current stable kernel more stable... and you kinda missed the point there buddy... judging an OS from it's welcome screen is superficial but it's not me the one doing it! why didn't you said anything about the theming system in windows? maybe because I was right? could be! do you not realize how useless is all the fancy interface if you can't exploit it at its maximum? it's not about the wobbly windows in compiz... i was trying to make a point there... clearly you missed it... but i'll be glad to explain it in plain english... the point was that it's pretty amazing what a free software looks like compared to the super hyped Windows OS which is clearly monopolistic and making tones of money for M$!
it's clear as daylight that i'm talking to a 4 year old and M$ fan boy who can't be objective in his comment because he doesn't have the notion of decency when it comes to software... everyone can see it's a damn ripoff and i'll buy it like the rest of the turds cause i have no other choice obviously!
#51.6 Jughead on 14 Mar 2009 - 03:34
stfu and go home troll
#51.7 k7of9 on 14 Mar 2009 - 08:39
Oh yes, of course. If you aren't against anything MS does you're a fanboy...I didn't see that one coming! Really good argument there.
You know, if you actually had something worthwhile to say you wouldn't have to resort to trying to insult people to make a point. And you accuse me of not being able to be objective...priceless.
Oh, and for someone that clearly considers himself as intellectually superior your English is quite...terrible.
There, I think that's enough energy wasted on you.
#51.8 dpcdpc11 on 15 Mar 2009 - 23:13
k7of9 said,
Oh yes, of course. If you aren't against anything MS does you're a fanboy...I didn't see that one coming! Really good argument there.
You know, if you actually had something worthwhile to say you wouldn't have to resort to trying to insult people to make a point. And you accuse me of not being able to be objective...priceless.
Oh, and for someone that clearly considers himself as intellectually superior your English is quite...terrible.
There, I think that's enough energy wasted on you.


so in order for me to be intellectual... I a dude from freaking Romania got to have a perfect English.. accent? or what? dumbass! your point is totally relevant to this discussion... brava genius!
and instead of replying to what I actually said there and point what are the flaws in my statement and come up with some solid arguments... you totally ignore the important things and comment the meaningless stuff... and sorry for making you spend energy on me fanboy specially in this time of crisis when the energy is so expensive!
#51.9 dpcdpc11 on 15 Mar 2009 - 23:15
Jughead said,
stfu and go home troll

hey tithead... bright comment there.. congrats... must have taken you some time to think of it! what would the world be without people like you? errr.. let me guess... a better world? definitely!
(3 replies) #52 Bat21UK on 13 Mar 2009 - 13:11
windows 7 7057 64bit is out there
#52.1 apotsi on 13 Mar 2009 - 14:25
Like "the truth is out there" ???

(BTW, where... ??? Shhhh....)
#52.2 timster on 13 Mar 2009 - 15:28
check a site that starts with M and ends in ininova ... it's the 3.2gb one
#52.3 apotsi on 13 Mar 2009 - 15:34
timster said,
check a site that starts with M and ends in ininova ... it's the 3.2gb one
FINALLY !!! I thought only I was able to see my posts... Thanks a lot, my friend !!!
Cheers.
#53 mhnassif on 13 Mar 2009 - 14:11
what's the new features in this edition?
(8 replies) #54 nxm on 13 Mar 2009 - 14:51
x64 is available now too.
#54.1 apotsi on 13 Mar 2009 - 14:58
What should we search for ???
#54.2 back_stabba on 13 Mar 2009 - 15:06
Yeah, downloading it right now. Do you need a new serial or you can use your old serial ?
#54.3 apotsi on 13 Mar 2009 - 15:28
back_stabba said,
Yeah, downloading it right now. Do you need a new serial or you can use your old serial ?
WTF... Please SOMEONE !!! Post a search string for google...
#54.4 njeske on 13 Mar 2009 - 15:30
yep... x64 is available. downloading it now. from what i've read, build 7000 beta keys work for this build as well.
#54.5 gonzo68 on 13 Mar 2009 - 16:04
apotsi said,
What should we search for ???


Search on pi rate bay or mini nova they both got it
#54.6 njeske on 13 Mar 2009 - 20:41
njeske said,
yep... x64 is available. downloading it now. from what i've read, build 7000 beta keys work for this build as well.

got it up and running. my beta key worked fine. so far so good. seems a bit more stable than 7048.
#54.7 Udedenkz on 14 Mar 2009 - 00:29
gonzo68 said,
Search on pi rate bay or mini nova they both got it


Yes, thanks I will search on 3.14 rate ray
#54.8 Lord Ba'al on 14 Mar 2009 - 01:25
Very nice, finally x64
However, the Rate Pi Bay seems to be overcrowded by Neowinians now:
"Search engine overloaded, please try again in a few seconds"
#55 back_stabba on 13 Mar 2009 - 16:23
aight thanks njeste.
(2 replies) #56 Spen on 13 Mar 2009 - 20:15
Is there better then 7022?

Should I upgrade?
#56.1 gonzo68 on 14 Mar 2009 - 00:14
Spen said,
Is there better then 7022?

Should I upgrade?


7000 was ok but buggy
7022 good but still some bug
7048 better with little bug
7057 i think you got your answer now
#56.2 mhnassif on 14 Mar 2009 - 00:40
in 7057 a lot of bug (: (:

Is there any article shows what have they done in this build?
#57 mrmomoman on 14 Mar 2009 - 13:29
It's not buggy - did you upgrade? I find that many people who report bugs run hardware that is older(legacy) or use third party hardware that uses their own drivers. It has been stable for me since 7000 with some bugs that was expected since it was Beta and still is BETA.
(1 reply) #58 lflashl on 15 Mar 2009 - 00:12
found the lastest 7057 build, very bad for me, slow install, slow boot up, and that forever just to run a program of anything else.
#58.1 lflashl on 15 Mar 2009 - 13:11
lflashl said,
found the lastest 7057 build, very bad for me, slow install, slow boot up, and that forever just to run a program of anything else.


Justed install build 7048, x64bit and i have to say it runs great! i think ill stay with this build till the RC1 comes out!
(1 reply) #59 Dessimat0r on 15 Mar 2009 - 00:33
Already on it, did a straight upgrade from 7000 and it works great.
#59.1 Dessimat0r on 15 Mar 2009 - 00:33
Oh, they fixed the image viewer by the way The one you get when you preview images in directories. No more pause between selecting each image.
#60 phil_177 on 15 Mar 2009 - 23:07
"gonzo68 on 13 Mar 2009 - 20:14
...
7000 was ok but buggy
7022 good but still some bug
7048 better with little bug
7057 i think you got your answer now"

So if the 'blind' had looked around they would have been running the x64 versions from the beginning ... ;-)

"lflashl on 15 Mar 2009 - 09:11

found the lastest 7057 build, very bad for me, slow install, slow boot up, and that forever just to run a program of anything else."

I've got to agree 95% - only I've got no problem running anything (and it's a bunch).

This is the first new OS from M$ that I've been able to "UPGRADE" and not lose a single file ...

Let's just say that Vista should, or was, that should have been 'beta' and Win7 the RTC - cleaner, faster, less complaints from the peanut gallery.

I've been using an beta testing since Windows 1.01/DOS 1 ... and this is the first time I'm happy with the product even before customers get it.

Enjoy
#61 Medking on 16 Mar 2009 - 15:50
question:

if i download this and install using a beta key, will it overwrite all of my files currently in my Windows 7 partition?

Or can I upgrade?


#62 phil_177 on 17 Mar 2009 - 23:02
Medking

"if i download this and install using a beta key, will it overwrite all of my files currently in my Windows 7 partition?

Or can I upgrade?"

No, it won't overwrite your files - knock-on-wood 3X ... as always, back them up on a DVD, second HDD, TAPE, etc., etc ... whatever turns you on.

Please re-question, do you already have Win7 installed? You can go either way, if you already installed an earlier version, and all you want to do is upgrade it, by all means choose the upgrade window. If you for some reason have a well messed-up install and it's giving you problem(s), then a format is the way to go and a new install of the latest version.

Today's my day, if it's gonna happen - then it will. ;-)

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