As we mentioned earlier, today will kick off the annual Microsoft MIX conference in Las Vegas, NV. MIX is for designers and developers who build innovative web sites. Attendees are coders, strategists, information architects, visual designers, UX professionals and digital marketers. They represent top web sites, web start-ups, interactive agencies and other organizations that do business on the Web.In a few hours the keynote will start with ScottGuthrie, corporate vice president of Microsoft's .NET Developer Division, and Bill Buxton, Principal Researcher at Microsoft Research. As highly expected, we are going to hear about the companies' upcoming release of Silverlight 3 beta. Ars Technica has already spotted some Silverlight 3 beta bits on the Microsoft Download Center which is now available for download.
- Microsoft .NET RIA Services March '09 Preview
(4.1 MB): Microsoft .NET RIA Services simplifies the traditional n-tier application pattern by bringing together the ASP.NET and Silverlight platforms. RIA Services provides a pattern to write application logic that runs on the mid-tier and controls access to data for queries, changes and custom operations. It also provides end-to-end support for common tasks such as data validation, authentication and roles by integrating with Silverlight components on the client and ASP.NET on the mid-tier. - Microsoft Silverlight 3 SDK Beta 1
(9.6 MB): The Microsoft® Silverlight™ 3 SDK contains online documentation, online samples, libraries and tools for developing Silverlight 3 applications. Usage of the SDK is subject to the SDK License (included in the package). - Microsoft Silverlight 3 Tools Beta 1 for Visual Studio 2008 SP1
(31.3 MB): This package is an add-on for Visual Studio 2008 SP1 to provide tooling for Microsoft Silverlight 3. It can be installed on top of either Visual Studio 2008 SP1 or Visual Web Developer 2008 Express with SP1, and it provides a Silverlight project system for developing Silverlight applications using C# or Visual Basic. - The Microsoft Silverlight 3 beta runtime
(6.23MB) v3.0.40307.0
Silverlight 3 is going to be the highlight of this year's conference, and we're excited to see what Microsoft has in store for us. Stay tuned, the keynote is scheduled to begin at 9:00 A.M. PDT, a little over two hours away.
no, it won't. Flash is available on almost every OS. Silverlight isn't. Why would I as an company want to make something in Silverlight, if it will work only on Windows (and os
Because they offer easier, better, more powerful environments to develop in and only limit their market microscopically.
There is also linux support through Moonlight. And whoever said it was just IE is also incorrect. There is a Firefox version as well if i remember correctly.
Because they offer easier, better, more powerful environments to develop in and only limit their market microscopically.
True! But we are not talking about games, or specific purpose ActiveX, we are talking about something for wide audience.
i can imagine SL as part of windows and another antitrust cases with US gov. and EU commision as main casts
You are so right, that cool feature where Flash hangs your browser, Silverlight still doens't have that. Or an install that is so crappy Adobe had to release a removal tool. Or security issues every release. Yea, Silverlight is missing some cool features.
Flash is one of the most poorly written pieces of code you can find. Its security and crash/hang issues are endless, so much that browsers like Chrome and IE 8 are taking huge steps to insulate themselves from Flash as much as possible.
Silverlight is the exact opposite. Not only that, but it offers MORE features, and competes with Adobe AIR - while being a MUCH smaller download.
In addition to the above rebuttals, SilverLight is not attempting to imitate Flash.
You don't know what you're talking about, right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Sil...t#Compatibility
You don't know what you're talking about, right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Sil...t#Compatibility
Actually SL is available on every OS. (not sure about SL 3)
lol, yes it does work on almost every os.
It's funny you bring up the removal tool. It only exists because the IE6 > IE7 upgrade caused IE to forget what version of the flash plugin it had installed. Javascript based embedding scripts that tried to query the player version would fail because IE would report nothing for the version. The removal tool was created so IE could be returned back to it's default state before the flash plugin was re-installed from scratch.
As for security, their install base is larger than IE's install base and they have less exploits than IE.
It still stands that flash is an awful piece of software - whether its on Windows, MacOS X or Linux. I can't think of a single redeeming feature; infact, I have used Moonlight on Linux and have not experienced any of the problems I saw when using Flash.
I'm all for, quite frankly, giving Flash a damn good thrashing in the marketplace, then Adobe might give a damn about the quality of their applications and supporting them - rather than the current situation which makes Apple operating system support policy appear as awesome.
Did you actually go to the silverlight showcase with moonlight? All I got was the 'you need silverlight' message. (8.10 + Firefo
Nope, I went to the fox trailer site; what is the minimum version required on the show case; IIRC you need at least version 2.0 where as moonlight is over version 1.0 compatible. Apparently 2.0 will be coming out soon.
*Platform independent
*64 bit version
*Browser support
I also feel bad that Microsoft has entered the game a bit late... Flash is so popular and dominant everywhere on web today that its way too tough to replace it with silverlight. May be a silverlight version for iPhone ?
*Platform independent
*64 bit version
*Browser support
I also feel bad that Microsoft has entered the game a bit late... Flash is so popular and dominant everywhere on web today that its way too tough to replace it with silverlight. May be a silverlight version for iPhone ?
There is a 64 bit version, and works flawlessly on Windows Vista and Windows 7.
Read it: http://weblogs.asp.net/jezell/archive/2007...oper-story.aspx
You should find an article that isn't 2 years old and isn't based on info that is 4 years old (aka 6 year old data). Pretty much every point he brings up is no longer valid.
Flash can now use C classes
Flash can now be developed in the exact same MS dev tools (flash visual studio plugins)
Flash shapes can be defined purely in text
Flash compilers can directly embed fonts from the font files
Flash animations can be defined programatically
Flash can play industry standard H.264 video
adobe didnt build x64 verison of flash yet
browser support ?? well SL support IE Firefox safari etc....
platform independent ? it is to some points SL for windows mono-lite for *nix, you cant play SL content on mobiles yet thro AFAIK .
edit: nevermind, the way you worded your comment, i thought you said Silverlight was not available for anything outside Windows
2. Silverlight 2 is far behind flash player 9/10 in terms of functionality (no 3d/physics engines for SL). Don't know what is going on with SL 3
3. There is 64bit flash player (soon there will be ARM) http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashpl...otes_64bit.html
That's for Linux.
Rolith: not into sports so never been to these sites
jren207: isn't that a UK thing?
Yes. So?
Let me know when you've done a game in javascript, html and css.
Last edited by fobban on 18 Mar 2009 - 17:21
Because not everybody is a masochist.
good riddence to a failed concept
Last edited by bob21 on 18 Mar 2009 - 19:37
yes
also, anyone going to try out playboyarchive.com when it launches tonight?
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