Many people may remember Charlie Miller from last year's event where he successfully hacked a MacBook and was able to take control over it within seconds, walking away with the MacBook and the grand prize.Charlie Miller once again successfully hacked the fully patched MacBook by exploiting a security vulnerability in Safari, Apple's web browser. The hack was accomplished by the team clicking on a link that took control of the machine within seconds. Charlie Miller walked away with the MacBook and the $10,000 top prize after successfully hacking the MacBook the fastest.
TippintPoint Zero Day Initiative has acquired exclusive rights to the vulnerability, and will work with Apple to patch the flaw. Details about the attack will not be disclosed until the patch is ready.
Charlie Miller wasn't the only successful hacker, but a security researcher nicknamed "Nils" was able to hack into a Sony Vaio laptop running an updated Windows 7 and Internet Explorer 8. "Nils" walked away with the cash prize and got to keep the hardware after successfully hacking it. "Nils" was also successfully able to hack into Apple's Safari browser being the second hacker of the day to exploit it.
JAJAJA, And Dont u think that IE is full of Flags>?
LoL
Vista had about 5% of the vulnrabilities in all of the OS's, Apple's OS had 15% of the vulnrabilities. Straight up facts doing the talking.
LoL
Flags?
Where did you read that part about Vista?
I lost.
Vista had about 5% of the vulnrabilities in all of the OS's, Apple's OS had 15% of the vulnrabilities. Straight up facts doing the talking.
I think in the last contest, the Ubuntu was uncracked. I didn't see mention of them including any Linux flavor this time. Maybe I just overlooked the mention of it?
But your assertion that "Vista is the most secure operating system" was never made by any reputable authority. It is the best Windows OS, and it includes features that had been sorely lacking on the Windows platforms for years.
Vista had about 5% of the vulnrabilities in all of the OS's, Apple's OS had 15% of the vulnrabilities. Straight up facts doing the talking.
FUD
"It’s really simple. Safari on the Mac is easier to exploit. The things that Windows do to make it harder (for exploit to work), Macs don’t do. Hacking into Macs is so much easier. You don’t have to jump through hoops and deal with all the anti-exploit mitigations you’d find in Windows.
It’s more about the operating system that the (target) program is running on. Firefox on Mac is pretty easy too. The underlying OS doesn’t have anti-exploit stuff built into it."
I find IBM DOS 5.2 is more secure
VMS
Damn straight. Every OS has vulnerabilities, regardless.
You must have clearly missed this then: http://www.apple.com/macosx/technology/
"The proven foundation of Leopard keeps your Mac safe."
False advertising?
The next homepage of Apple : OS X is... kind of secure!
The next homepage of Microsoft : Windows is... somwhat secure!
The next announcements of Duracell : Our batteries last for... quite a long time!
The next announcements of Intel : Our brand new processors are... quite faster than the previous model!
The next announcement of a popular bread trend : Our bread is much better than the other breads... if it's your taste!
Forget it.
Yea, he did.
Followed by the small print...
"...depending on what your doing" lol
The next homepage of Apple : OS X is... kind of secure!
The next homepage of Microsoft : Windows is... somwhat secure!
The next announcements of Duracell : Our batteries last for... quite a long time!
The next announcements of Intel : Our brand new processors are... quite faster than the previous model!
The next announcement of a popular bread trend : Our bread is much better than the other breads... if it's your taste!
Forget it.
ROFL!!! Man, you made my afternoon
The next homepage of Apple : OS X is... kind of secure!
The next homepage of Microsoft : Windows is... somwhat secure!
The next announcements of Duracell : Our batteries last for... quite a long time!
The next announcements of Intel : Our brand new processors are... quite faster than the previous model!
The next announcement of a popular bread trend : Our bread is much better than the other breads... if it's your taste!
Forget it.
That's exactly correct. I never thought about it that way either!
So many computer users are pretty dumb. Using Macs would be perfect for them.
And dealing with a mac would be terrible for many users. They wont even know how to get to a window that's behind another, because you have to minimize the one in front. Also, what would happen to a basic user when they accidently click on the background and all their options for Word disapear since Mac's keep the context menu's up at a top bar? They would be very confused.
What you're saying, that Macs are simple, is purely based off of Apple's OWN marketing.
your statement should be "safest computer is a Mac, if they try to hack it, it will beach-ball spontainiously and the hacker will get fed up and quit!" Sorry, I had to.
God I remember, cost me a fortune that did to put right...
your statement should be "safest computer is a Mac, if they try to hack it, it will beach-ball spontainiously and the hacker will get fed up and quit!" Sorry, I had to.
I've had a Mac for a few months and I don't remember the last time I saw the beach ball *shrug*
I hope these people actually help towards patching such systems instead of just bringing them home!
Last edited by Calum on 19 Mar 2009 - 11:25
if he can't do it (that is to hack into comps), who can?
http://www.geeksugar.com/1548282
The article reports a pre-release version of Windows 7 was compromised via an IE 8 drive-by-download attack, but it doesn't specify if the machine had UAC or Protected Mode disabled. It also doesn't specify which build, and some features hadn't had all of their final security mitigations in place in time for the beta.
Beta or not, it is still the most up to date version of Windows available to the public. "Beta" doesn't automatically excuse security vulnerabilities.
You're right on the button there. Unfortunately Apple fanboys and Microsoft fanboys seem to enjoy tearing lumps off each other and bickering over silly little stuff like this. Another day it'll be a news story about a vulnerability in Vista or something and the role will be reversed. It's the never-ending story of Neowin!
Neither OS is perfect. Both have vulnerabilities waiting to be found. As they get more and more complicated, this is going to happen more and more.
It's a beta.
Beta or not, it is still the most up to date version of Windows available to the public. "Beta" doesn't automatically excuse security vulnerabilities.
Actually that's the whole point of adding a beta tag to begin with.
It's a work in progress.
Huh? There's definitely at least one well known trojan going around for OS X, in iWorks '09 & Photoshop cracks through BitTorrent downloads. Definitely connects to botnets.
http://www.itwire.com/content/view/22865/1151/
http://www.intego.com/news/ism0901.asp
LOL so true!
To show what actually happened:
OS X Was Hacked via Safari
Windows Vista was hacked via Firefox
Windows 7 was hacked via Internet Explorer 8
Which means all the Browsers let there Operating System down. And as all 3 were hacked on Day one of the contest Flash, Java, .Net and QuickTime were not installed on the System as Browser plugins. They would be installed on Day 2 followed by Adobe PDF Reader on Day 3.
What the headline should really say is 'Day 1 of security conference sees OS X, Vista and 7 hacked in mere Hours'
I agree with you but i like the current title as it attracts anti-apple people making this thread insanely fun to read. It's pure comedy to read anti-apple people ridicule themselves.
I agree with you but i like the current title as it attracts anti-apple people making this thread insanely fun to read. It's pure comedy to read anti-apple people ridicule themselves.
+1 dude, its mainly why I visit these stories. Everyone gets in such a tizz all the time, but when you look at the long run, no news story has created a "staggering shift" in the "technology balance" lol. Its all relative.
The ZDnet blog posted about it before the other exploits were done. Hence the emphasis.
The ZDnet blog posted about it before the other exploits were done. Hence the emphasis.
Maybe this new article should be updated like the ZDnet article was? More objective, no?
Maybe it could. Have you submitted an update to the newsdesk?
Actually any update should probably include this interview in which Charlie Miller talks about how easy it is to crack OSX.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2941
uh what? Mac OS is BSD... and what does x86 have to do with it?
wtf? you make no sense, x86 is a CPU architecture and unix is an OS
As if the CPU architecture has anything to do with a system's vulnerability...
And what's with the switching from Unix to x86? One is an operating system, the other is a CPU architecture type.
Please refrain from posting if you don't have the slightest clue of what you're talking about.
I remain mystified that although OS designers have long been well aware of the dangers of hacking, nonetheless new patches arrive month after month in order to address newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. How is it that these continue to exist and are still being discovered? Is there some common feature to them all? I can understand how a newly-written OS may have some vestigial problems, but surely they must ultimately be found and patched?
Apparently not - but is there some accessible but technically accurate explanation of what underlies the problem that the interested but non-specialist reader could review?
WTF is up with that? IS this the new thing, acquiring exclusive rights to stuff like this? What are they going to do, hold it over a companies head for ransom or something?
"Nils" also scored a clean hit against Apple's Safari (he was the second hacker to exploit Safari) and, later in the afternoon, he exploited a Firefox zero-day flaw to claim the trifecta.
It seem's that app's are the way in. not the OS.
Last edited by shakey_snake on 20 Mar 2009 - 22:11
"It's more about..."
that says they used a third party program to get in imho.
In the end, as someone else have said, the problem is on the END USER
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