Today appears to be rumor day over at Cupertino, folks. If we'd known ahead of time, we would have done a roundup at the end of the day. AppleInsider has a source that's reporting that at least one of Apple's upcoming iPhones will feature video recording.The information comes from a person "extremely reliable" when it comes to predicting Apple's hardware changes, which is why it's ended up on the front page, added to the fact that they mentioned "at least one upcoming iPhone". The new iPhone is due out this year, and will also feature extremely improved hardware to support better game on Apple's mobile device. This suggests new graphics and a new processor, which will help in other areas that aren't gaming.
Video recording has been one feature many have criticized the iPhone for lacking, and Apple has taken this long to do so because it wants to "get it right". Perhaps this means it will include editing tools, or other features, because there's not much else to get wrong about recording video.
Evidence of this being included in the next iPhone is in the recently released iPhone 3.0 beta, which has a MobileMe panel labeled "Publish Video". This, combined with the supposed wireless speed increases in the rumored upcoming iPhone, could mean video conferencing or other features.
So there you have it. Pretty strong evidence about Apple's plans, so it won't be surprising to see any announcements when they are made.
I agree that they're late, I'm not getting you wrong at that. But we'll finally be there and it'll be worth the wait (not for this feature specifically, but for the whole bunch of things coming).
An important thing to remember is that as much as people record videos on their phones, an extremely small number bothers to take it off and store it elsewhere because the quality is so ****ty. It's stuck on the phone for all eternity. If you get a decent quality video camera on there, then it might be worth something, otherwise, I'll pass.
I have a Nokia N95 8GB myself and love its camera. Apart from shooting the high quality video you can also do basic editing on the phone, like add text, split, merge etc. and when you want the video out of the phone, there's USB, Bluetooth and optical, of course you can also just upload it directly to youtube, Ovi etc. via 3G or WiFi.
Now, if the iPhone was a cheap phone, it might make sense for it to have a bad camera and have no video, but this is an expensive high-end phone, so there really is no excuse. All this of course is made even worse by the fact that you can add video to the iPhone yourself with a little tinkering.
So believe what you want to, but I would never support a company that deliberately makes crippled phones just so they can charge people later for the same features that were lacking in the first place.
Even if the video is crappy, I would rather have the option then no option at all.
not sure of the technical differences but i'm sure the tech between still and video is different
not sure of the technical differences but i'm sure the tech between still and video is different
If you jailbreak, you have access to Cycorder as well as Qik. Qik is my all-time favourite, since it uploads directly to the 'net. And you are correct PureLegend, the quality isn't that bad, but I'm assuming if Apple releases a new phone, they will update the camera to a higher quality censor.
High quality censor = no dodgy videos permitted ;-) Spellcheck has revealed Apple's desire now to control everything that we record!
what is sad is that you KNOW [< snipped > - Calum] will give them their money anyway, and one year later they'll claim they were the first to implement video rec on a cell phone and everybody is copying apple. bussiness as usual.
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Apple took all the negative criticism and made it at their advantage. The next iPhone will certainly rock. (not that the previous ones didn't rock).
you don't need new hardware for the other new features though...
and its free for iphone isn't it? $20 for ipod touch?
what is sad is that you KNOW [< snipped > - Calum] will give them their money anyway, and one year later they'll claim they were the first to implement video rec on a cell phone and everybody is copying apple. bussiness as usual.
Yes - all 13 million people that have bought the iPhones are [< snipped > - Calum]. *rolls eyes*
They aren't claiming they were first to do it FFS. They're just finally delivering missing features that painfully biased people like yourself used as ammunition to rail against the iPhone with. So hopefully it'll shut people like you up.
Just try an iPhone. The ease of use and already great feature-set make it more than worth the money. These 'late to the party' features are well overdue and will make an already great product even better.
Anybody that actually has half a clue about technology adores the iPhone. Look in ANY tech magazine, or look for genuine online reviews from technical people. I don't know what category iPhone haters fall into, but consider yourselves out of the loop.
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what is sad is that you KNOW [< snipped > - Calum] will give them their money anyway, and one year later they'll claim they were the first to implement video rec on a cell phone and everybody is copying apple. bussiness as usual.
What a ridiculous statement! That will not happen and I'm sure you know that will not happen! It's obvious Apple are not the first to include video recording on a mobile phone and there is no way they would be able to get away with saying that.
what is sad is that you KNOW
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will give them their money anyway, and one year later they'll claim they were the first to implement video rec on a cell phone and everybody is copying apple. bussiness as usual.
Yes - all 13 million people that have bought the iPhones are
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. *rolls eyes*
They aren't claiming they were first to do it FFS. They're just finally delivering missing features that painfully biased people like yourself used as ammunition to rail against the iPhone with. So hopefully it'll shut people like you up.
Just try an iPhone. The ease of use and already great feature-set make it more than worth the money. These 'late to the party' features are well overdue and will make an already great product even better.
Anybody that actually has half a clue about technology adores the iPhone. Look in ANY tech magazine, or look for genuine online reviews from technical people. I don't know what category iPhone haters fall into, but consider yourselves out of the loop.
Being a hardcore Microsoft evangelist myself, I actuall have said (In a public article at that) that due to all of these updates that are coming to the iPhone, I might just get one and test it out. My main reason of disliking the iPhone when it originally shipped is because many features that I use on a daily basis (MMS, C&P, Video Calls (Decent quality), WiFi, and the list could go on) were not available on it. Hell I have never owned anything made from Apple, but when the new version and the OS hits the market I'm willing to give it a try.
what is sad is that you KNOW
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will give them their money anyway, and one year later they'll claim they were the first to implement video rec on a cell phone and everybody is copying apple. bussiness as usual.
What a ridiculous statement! That will not happen and I'm sure you know that will not happen! It's obvious Apple are not the first to include video recording on a mobile phone and there is no way they would be able to get away with saying that.
+1, not even that I wasn't aware that Apple claimed to have came up with anything they actually didn't? I'm sure every mobile phone owner knows that Apple didn't develope the first device with "video recording".
and its free for iphone isn't it? $20 for ipod touch?
Exactly, you don't need to buy anything and you get 99% of what iPhone OS 3.0 does.
Free firmware upgrade for iPhone users.
$10 for iPod Touch users.
There's two features that won't work on the first iPhone (Bluetooth A2DP and MMS if I remember well) and video recording might not work on the current iPhone 3G (Apple said it was due to the internal memory that wasn't fast enough, nor reliable enough, to write a video file in real time), and USB tethering, if enabled in the final version, might supposedly work on every iPhone possible.
but video is different. is worse than not having copy and paste, lol
but video is different. is worse than not having copy and paste, lol
So I'd assume you've never sent pictures, audio files, recordings, etc etc? I use MMS all the time, in fact looking at this months statement I sent/received a total of 687 MMS's.
Every cell phone provider allows any cell phone that can receive texts to send or receive emails also. And, every person with an iPhone has a data plan. So MMS really isn't a necessity seeing as though it can all be done through email. It will make it slightly easier, but it's really not needed.
Why do people complain about Apple charging money for a new phone?al times a year.
HTC, Sony, Nokia, - All release serval phone serval times a year.
Apple has had 2 Iphones. The second one got few hardware upgrades. GPS + 3g chip.
The 3rd will most likely have update hardware, By the sounds of it. It will be major update.
Rumors of new Proccessor , New video chip, most likely and needed a new video camera.
Apple have one phone that they have slowly been given it the ability to do everything possible. Like of Nokia and HTC have released phones directly to compete with the iPhone. So all these other company's release serval phones and Apple get hassle for selling 1 phone. That has changed the market completely. Yes they charge for it but if people want to pay for it why not charge for it? You can not argue about apple changing the market. The phone doesn't have any thing new, compared to other phones. But the interface it uses is the best I've ever used on a mobile phone(I use to use HTC devices, I also use a blackberry bold at the minute as well as an Iphone.)
If they want to charge more for a great phone fabulous. I'll pay it. iPhone is the only apple device i've ever owned. Be interesting to see what these Video camera abilities are like on the iPhone.
Just wish people would stop complaining about different crap. APple suck etc etc, Same with Microsoft rubbish. Just does my head in people can see thigs for what they are. iPhone is good phone. A good phone if you like it. Same as nokia sony HTC all good if you like them personal choice just because its apple or you dont like it. doesn't mean the device sucks. goes for every company that makes something.
Why do people complain about Apple charging money for a new phone?al times a year.
HTC, Sony, Nokia, - All release serval phone serval times a year.
Apple has had 2 Iphones. The second one got few hardware upgrades. GPS + 3g chip.
The 3rd will most likely have update hardware, By the sounds of it. It will be major update.
Rumors of new Proccessor , New video chip, most likely and needed a new video camera.
Apple have one phone that they have slowly been given it the ability to do everything possible. Like of Nokia and HTC have released phones directly to compete with the iPhone. So all these other company's release serval phones and Apple get hassle for selling 1 phone. That has changed the market completely. Yes they charge for it but if people want to pay for it why not charge for it? You can not argue about apple changing the market. The phone doesn't have any thing new, compared to other phones. But the interface it uses is the best I've ever used on a mobile phone(I use to use HTC devices, I also use a blackberry bold at the minute as well as an Iphone.)
If they want to charge more for a great phone fabulous. I'll pay it. iPhone is the only apple device i've ever owned. Be interesting to see what these Video camera abilities are like on the iPhone.
Just wish people would stop complaining about different crap. APple suck etc etc, Same with Microsoft rubbish. Just does my head in people can see thigs for what they are. iPhone is good phone. A good phone if you like it. Same as nokia sony HTC all good if you like them personal choice just because its apple or you dont like it. doesn't mean the device sucks. goes for every company that makes something.
I don't think the majority are complaining about the paying for a new device, I believe they are upset at the fact that there will be a charge for the iPod Touch users.
But some people are there just to whine every time Apple gets something out. "OMG A NEW IPHONE, IT'LL BE SO BAD AND PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY PAY FOR IT! ROFL"
No matter if it's a good, an awesome, or a bad, or a really bad product, people WILL come here to say these kinds of things. This attitude really tires me though, but isn't the whole society a little tiring anyway?
Unfortunately, there are things that will never change, and these people are usually ignorants (misinformed about Apple in this case). I remember when people used to say "wow, I just bought an iPod and they already release a new one... this is Apple". And what about the other 20 companies who release a new music player every 2 months or so? It just doesn't get publicized, and it's as if people don't want to be informed, they won't go and look at the rest of the market if it doesn't jump directly into their eyes.
Obviously I'm generalizing this whole situation, because I know a lot of people will still look hard to find things better, different, etc. But the whole idea stays the same.
Doesn't really benefit them much. . . . . . . . . .apart from maybe the app store/apps benefits. If I was ipod touch user i wudnt upgrade.
Why do people complain about Apple charging money for a new phone?al times a year.
HTC, Sony, Nokia, - All release serval phone serval times a year.
Apple has had 2 Iphones. The second one got few hardware upgrades. GPS + 3g chip.
The 3rd will most likely have update hardware, By the sounds of it. It will be major update.
Rumors of new Proccessor , New video chip, most likely and needed a new video camera.
Apple have one phone that they have slowly been given it the ability to do everything possible. Like of Nokia and HTC have released phones directly to compete with the iPhone. So all these other company's release serval phones and Apple get hassle for selling 1 phone. That has changed the market completely. Yes they charge for it but if people want to pay for it why not charge for it? You can not argue about apple changing the market. The phone doesn't have any thing new, compared to other phones. But the interface it uses is the best I've ever used on a mobile phone(I use to use HTC devices, I also use a blackberry bold at the minute as well as an Iphone.)
If they want to charge more for a great phone fabulous. I'll pay it. iPhone is the only apple device i've ever owned. Be interesting to see what these Video camera abilities are like on the iPhone.
Just wish people would stop complaining about different crap. APple suck etc etc, Same with Microsoft rubbish. Just does my head in people can see thigs for what they are. iPhone is good phone. A good phone if you like it. Same as nokia sony HTC all good if you like them personal choice just because its apple or you dont like it. doesn't mean the device sucks. goes for every company that makes something.
I don't think the majority are complaining about the paying for a new device, I believe they are upset at the fact that there will be a charge for the iPod Touch users.
Most people are complaining that if they want to record video, they would have to buy a new iPhone because they think the current gen iPhone could be able to record video with a software update. Maybe it's hardware related too, someone ever thought of that?
I couldn't care less about video recording (except if it had great quality, which the iPhone probably won't have).
The next iPhone should however have a decent flash. Not just a stupid led light, but a real flash for taking stills.
P.S.: Apple doesn't say they invented things that already exist. They re-invent or innovate them in a way it hasn't been done before. I have an iPod Touch and I like it so much I wanted it to be my phone too. But €300 more for the ability to make calls and sms and a half-working GPS is way too much.
Doesn't really benefit them much. . . . . . . . . .apart from maybe the app store/apps benefits. If I was ipod touch user i wudnt upgrade.
Wow! That was so ignorant to the iPod Touch 2G! First of all, the iPod Touch 2G gets everything software-related the iPhone 3G is getting, including copy-and-paste, Spotlight, landscape mode for Apple apps, auto wif-login, etc. Plus we get our bluetooth chip unlocked, and our first time using it will also be our first time using it for regular use, including A2DP use. Peer-to-peer connectivity is also a great bluetooth feature, oh and push is another major feature.
I am an iPod Touch 2G user, and upgraded to iPhone OS 3.0 Beta, and I love it. I use my bluetooth headset now instead of the apple earphones, I use landscape mode, I can't wait for meebo and other push-apps, Spotlight is faster to use than looking through pages of apps, and I can't wait for peer-to-peer apps so other iPod Touch 2G/iPhone 3G users can play games and stuff with me.
This is a big upgrade for everyone, I would put it in this order.
How much iPhone OS 3.0 is worth for every iPhone device.
1. iPhone 3G, gets everything.
2. iPod Touch 2G, gets everything except calling and SMS/MMS and the likes.
3. iPhone, doesn't get MMS or A2DP or any other special bluetooth feature, still can't get GPS so no new GPS features.
4. iPod Touch 1G, doesn't get anything except copy and paste and Spotlight, oh and push, thats about it I'm afraid.
I got the iPhone because I wanted a decent touch screen phone. As the HTC Tytn 2 was a pathetic phone.
Sluggish rubbish phone. I say rubbish because they had a decent video chip and they werent licensed to use the driver and therefore the phone was super sluggish.
I sold it for £310, then I got and Iphone for £300. I unlocked the iPhone, as I was with Vodafone.
I liked it that much once my vodafone contract was up I moved to o2. got the 3g iPhone.
So you could say if my HTC tytn 2 had not of been so sluggish and bad as HTC were to cheap to get the license to ship the correct drivers for the video chip. I probably would never have an iPhone.
The iPhone struggles to take a decent still picture if u move the camera a tiny bit. You really think it could handle decent video recording? they have no choice to use a decent camera in the new model. Thing with apple is, there like prefectionist when it comes to the layout and look of things. They want to make everything simple and prefect before they release there stuff. Pain in the ass. but usually worth the wait.
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