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Windows 7 concepts that never made the cut

Tom Warren   on 23 March 2009 - 18:49 · 59 comments & 23701 views

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TechRadar has uncovered some interesting concept art and sketches that the Windows team demonstrated at Mix 09 recently.

The Windows team is notoriously secret about showing any concept designs the team have worked on, usually because of copyright issues and the fact the designs are not protected.

In the first sketch you can see demonstrations for different ways of tiling and arranging windows and thumbnails:



Next up is a sketch of Lava lamps, flowers, faces and some more realistic ideas of how thumbnails could work:



Below you can see a sketching in detail of how icons on the taskbar could work:



The team toyed with the idea of putting previews in the Taskbar:



Calling Batman, previews get projected in a Gotham like way:



Early concepts of the jump lists feature:



From these sketches and concepts you can tell that the team has taken a lot of different user interfaces into consideration. According to Microsoft there were more than 400 sketches of the desktop experience alone along with concepts for how different elements interact with each other.

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(3 replies) #1 pauldr777 on 23 Mar 2009 - 18:53
I love the batman spotlight concept its neat to see all (some) of the options they considered.
#1.1 WAR-DOG on 23 Mar 2009 - 19:16
The batman spot light is patented by Batman himself and thuss because Microsoft is very poor, they didn't buy the licence to use the batman spotlight... (1st april preperations)
#1.2 Lord Ba'al on 24 Mar 2009 - 01:34
Yes, it would be nice if they put that back in, at least as an option.
#1.3 Winston on 24 Mar 2009 - 04:12
Lord Ba'al said,
Yes, it would be nice if they put that back in, at least as an option.


This is actually in Windows 7, but just adjusted, when you hover over the thumbnails and you get aero-peak preview, it's the same thing, the flaw with this demo, was that when you hover down on the buttons it will always trigger this, now this will work out in the scenario when taskbuttons aren't grouped, but it won't work when it's grouped, furthermore it acted as a bit of annoyance.

Windows 7 still has the similar feature but it just doesn't have the spotlight direction, which makes it seem pretty cool.
#2 Y2Stu on 23 Mar 2009 - 18:54
yeah the batman one is the best one out of the lot shown
#3 Sam Symons Live on 23 Mar 2009 - 18:58
Very cool Great find, too.
(4 replies) #4 Rolith on 23 Mar 2009 - 19:01
Can hardly blame them for not coming forward with more of these after the debocal that was WinFS and what people seemed to think it was...
#4.1 Litespeed on 24 Mar 2009 - 00:35
Rolith said,
Can hardly blame them for not coming forward with more of these after the debocal that was WinFS and what people seemed to think it was...


"debocal" - the what?
#4.2 MioTheGreat on 24 Mar 2009 - 00:37
Litespeed said,
"debocal" - the what?


debacle.
#4.3 Calum on 24 Mar 2009 - 10:51
Litespeed said,
"debocal" - the what?

Litespeed, did you not know what Rolith meant by that? Or were you just insulting his spelling? :/
#4.4 spinning_quirK on 24 Mar 2009 - 16:27
It's ok everyone, when in doubt about spelling, use www.dictionary.com . If the word does not exist, it will suggest a few for consideration.

This also helps everyone to check their posts before clicking the "Submit My Reply" button in haste.
(3 replies) #5 Colin-uk on 23 Mar 2009 - 19:06
can anyone actually read that hand writing / scribbling ?
#5.1 Sam Symons Live on 23 Mar 2009 - 19:12
Colin-uk said,
can anyone actually read that hand writing / scribbling ?

I tried. I failed. Maybe that's how they keep things confidential over there :p If nobody can read it, nobody can leak it.
#5.2 Tom W on 23 Mar 2009 - 19:12
I lol'd
#5.3 Gabe3 on 24 Mar 2009 - 18:11
Sam Symons Live said,
I tried. I failed. Maybe that's how they keep things confidential over there :p If nobody can read it, nobody can leak it.

hehe
#6 Warboy on 23 Mar 2009 - 19:07
I like the batman concept.
(1 reply) #7 Foub on 23 Mar 2009 - 19:23
Looks like much of what is already in Linux.
#7.1 rm20010 on 23 Mar 2009 - 19:27
Examples please?
(1 reply) #8 rm20010 on 23 Mar 2009 - 19:24
Whatever happened to OS-wide Accelerators? Did that get dropped for good?

I hope someone codes a third party app that adds the Batman switching effect.
#8.1 soumyasch on 24 Mar 2009 - 01:45
The batsignal concept was previously shown along with the reasons why it was scrapped.

http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/yochay/Desi...dows-7-Taskbar/
(6 replies) #9 skynetXrules on 23 Mar 2009 - 19:30
huh .... it look like vista not 7
#9.1 excalpius on 23 Mar 2009 - 19:34
Windows 7 is just a polish/refresh/update of Vista. I guess you did not know that.
#9.2 Electric Bolt on 23 Mar 2009 - 20:53
Wow, you completely did not understand what he just said. He said it looks like Windows Vista, not Windows 7. If he can tell the difference between them, I'm sure he knows about Windows 7. It is not just an update. That is Windows Vista, apparently, they started concepts on Windows Vista, and then after getting the idea of what they were going to do, they went and made Windows 7 from Windows Vista. That is when the alpha builds of Windows 7 came out, and what made Windows 7 unique from Windows Vista regarding UI. Then the alpha builds brought us to the beta builds and now that takes us to the RC builds. Technically, I would call that Windows Vista, as you can see, there is no watermark, it was just several modifications to get an idea.
#9.3 +statm1 on 23 Mar 2009 - 21:01
skynetXrules said,
huh .... it look like vista not 7

To sum up what Electric said.. Alot of concepts were demoed on Vista before they had any solid changes to the UI. Thats why it looks like Vista, because it is.
#9.4 skynetXrules on 23 Mar 2009 - 21:38
@excalpius
i am aware that win7 is an upgrade over vista

what does suprised me that they used vista codebase over win7 beta codebase
#9.5 micro on 23 Mar 2009 - 23:58
Do you have any idea how the development of a new os works? I think its obvious that you haven't used previous betas of windows. They dont start from scratch every new windows, they start from where they left off.
#9.6 Calum on 24 Mar 2009 - 10:59
Exactly. I think it is pretty obvious that if you are going to consider introducing new user interface elements or new user interface effects, you will plan it, test it out and think about it greatly before you actually include it in the new operating system.

Before starting this new operating system, it makes sense to try these new things out on the very early builds of it - that is what they have done here. I imagine this is a very early build of Windows 7, probably quite a bit before milestone 1 was even finalised - very very similar to Windows Vista.
#10 micro on 23 Mar 2009 - 19:41
Nice find..
#11 martinDTanderson on 23 Mar 2009 - 19:44
There was also a collage of 120 or so High Fidelity prototypes they worked on which was played in quick sucession.
(1 reply) #12 excalpius on 23 Mar 2009 - 19:45
FTA "The team toyed with the idea of putting previews in the Taskbar:"

And apparently didn't figure out that they should do this on the SIDE of the screen (left by default). It reads better and uses desktop real estate more effectively, especially with widescreen monitors now the default. This was an idea they should have explored further, since it was a very good one.

I'm currently doing just that with ObjectDock Plus. My taskbar is replaced by a zooming dock on the left of the screen which shows a start menu button by default and increases in size automatically with each new application. It autoscales smaller if dozens of applications are running. And all running programs are represented by live thumbnail snapshots under Vista.

The system tray is another autohiding dock elsewhere, since no one really needs the system tray real estate showing 24/7 (even Windows 7 autohides most icons by default). Or at least, once the clock, etc. have been put on the desktop by default.

Just my two cents
#12.1 soumyasch on 24 Mar 2009 - 02:49
May be they did try out the side-placement.

http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070715/...ment/#more-2088
(5 replies) #13 rakeshishere on 23 Mar 2009 - 19:52
But they had to leave that ugly start orb on superbar...
#13.1 +statm1 on 23 Mar 2009 - 21:02
Better the orb then just a word.
#13.2 ToastGodSupreme on 23 Mar 2009 - 21:16
statm1 said,
Better the orb then just a word.


Says who?

1. Aesthetically it's ugly as balls given that it doesn't exactly mesh well with the surrounding area (new isn't always improved, wish a lot of you people would realize that).
2. From a support viewpoint it's terrible. "Yes. Ok ma'am, you want to click on the little orb thingy in the bottom left corner to get your menu. No, it's in the bottom left corner, it's like a circle. It's the same circle that you click on to get your start menu. Well, I guess it's not a start menu anymore since THEY TOOK AWAY THE START NAME SO NOW IT'S JUST GENERIC MENU OH PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD JUST CLICK ON IT!"
As compared to the alternative, "Click on the start button, bottom left corner of your screen."


So I don't see how it's superior in any way.

Let's look at the progress of our main OS...
Dos, all text.
Windows 3.1, text + icons.
Windows 95, text + more icons.
Windows XP/Vista, text + even more icons (category views, etc)
Windows 7, text + EVEN MORE icons.

At this rate, by Windows 10, we'll have no text left and everything will be iconified with all labels being hidden with mouseover popups or some ****.

And I don't know about you guys, but i still like labeling things and having a clear way to identify what's running on my machine. Honestly, if you took AWAY all the icons on the task bar (except for the system tray), THAT would be a clean looking interface. You'd see the labels for your programs and nothing unneeded. And when I'm running multiple instances of a program, I don't want them to group together NOR do I want them to be only icons. I need to be able to quickly look down, identify which instance I want to bring up based on the title/label that's displayed, click on it and be done.

This new method of icons for everything because the community has a hardon for docks right now is terrible. I'm not saying I hate docks, they're useful, but not as a whole replacement for the startmenu and taskbar.
#13.3 mocax on 24 Mar 2009 - 01:57
i'd always told the users to "press the key with the windows logo on your keyboard"
#13.4 werdwerdus on 24 Mar 2009 - 05:53
ToastGodSupreme said,
Says who?

1. Aesthetically it's ugly as balls given that it doesn't exactly mesh well with the surrounding area (new isn't always improved, wish a lot of you people would realize that).
2. From a support viewpoint it's terrible. "Yes. Ok ma'am, you want to click on the little orb thingy in the bottom left corner to get your menu. No, it's in the bottom left corner, it's like a circle. It's the same circle that you click on to get your start menu. Well, I guess it's not a start menu anymore since THEY TOOK AWAY THE START NAME SO NOW IT'S JUST GENERIC MENU OH PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD JUST CLICK ON IT!"
As compared to the alternative, "Click on the start button, bottom left corner of your screen."


So I don't see how it's superior in any way.

Let's look at the progress of our main OS...
Dos, all text.
Windows 3.1, text + icons.
Windows 95, text + more icons.
Windows XP/Vista, text + even more icons (category views, etc)
Windows 7, text + EVEN MORE icons.

At this rate, by Windows 10, we'll have no text left and everything will be iconified with all labels being hidden with mouseover popups or some ****.

And I don't know about you guys, but i still like labeling things and having a clear way to identify what's running on my machine. Honestly, if you took AWAY all the icons on the task bar (except for the system tray), THAT would be a clean looking interface. You'd see the labels for your programs and nothing unneeded. And when I'm running multiple instances of a program, I don't want them to group together NOR do I want them to be only icons. I need to be able to quickly look down, identify which instance I want to bring up based on the title/label that's displayed, click on it and be done.

This new method of icons for everything because the community has a hardon for docks right now is terrible. I'm not saying I hate docks, they're useful, but not as a whole replacement for the startmenu and taskbar.


They have this in there... it's called Windows Classic. Looks practically like Win98/XP/Vista classic.
#13.5 Fagutish on 25 Mar 2009 - 02:07
ToastGodSupreme said,
Windows 7, text + EVEN MORE icons.


You conveniently fail to mention the obvious change to text exclusively in all windows 7 (and windows live) toolbars. Examples include Explorer, Windows Live suite, XPS viewer etc.
#14 TheNay on 23 Mar 2009 - 19:53
previews in the Taskbar one is hideous!
(1 reply) #15 reidtheweed01 on 23 Mar 2009 - 19:53
i like the idea of previews in the taskbar
#15.1 excalpius on 24 Mar 2009 - 01:41
Yes, only the implementation is lacking. See my note above.
(1 reply) #16 Winston on 23 Mar 2009 - 21:12
These screenshots were all taken from this MIX09 presentation:

http://videos.visitmix.com/MIX09/C26F

#16.1 JonathanMarston on 23 Mar 2009 - 23:24
In the section where they show 150 concepts there are some really cool designs - I wish some of the elements had made it in to the final design
#17 Luis Mazza on 23 Mar 2009 - 22:29
They could add some of the concepts to the Ultimate packs... But I think they dropped those "special features" after Vista.
#18 Rohdekill on 24 Mar 2009 - 02:07
I see they're still stuck on the concept that every window needs to be a box. How about giving them some style?!
#19 skandal192 on 24 Mar 2009 - 02:32
More pictures Windows 7 concepts: http://winbeta.pl/sample3/windows7prototypy_1.htm

Last edited by skandal192 on 24 Mar 2009 - 02:47
#20 Hak Foo on 24 Mar 2009 - 02:46
Why can't we have window shading? I like it better than minimization because it retains the title and the original location.
#21 Skullpture on 24 Mar 2009 - 12:32
The Batman effect should be part of Windows Ultimate Extras (if that will be passed on). I'd love to have a the freedom to change the style in which everything presents itself--it would be like a new generation of visual styles.
#22 -Hiroshi- on 24 Mar 2009 - 12:46
wow.. most of those UI prototypes look better than what they have now.. I don't think Microsoft is even capable of making something look nice and "cool". With exception to the Vista interface of course, they struck a nice balance there.
(1 reply) #23 hotdog963al on 24 Mar 2009 - 13:05
WOW. Some of those really are terrible :|
#23.1 mrp04 on 25 Mar 2009 - 00:34
Well obviously that is why they didn't make it into Windows 7.
(1 reply) #24 Magallanes on 24 Mar 2009 - 13:41
Windows 7 real concept:

1) Vista makeup.
2) ????
3) Profit!!!

And it is true.
#24.1 ricknl on 24 Mar 2009 - 17:07
Well, sounds good to me.
#25 Dannydeman on 24 Mar 2009 - 15:37
They were very creative in the Longhorn era, if you look at the concepts, wow. Some would be still futuristic today, and 6 years have passed Apple would be nowhere (ui wise) if Longhorn became a reallity.
(4 replies) #26 splur on 24 Mar 2009 - 16:33
Holy crap, did these people not go to design school?

I certainly hope they're not getting programmers to do UI designs. Not that I'm saying I'm any better for the job, I have a hard enough time imagining an innovative UI let alone draw it on paper. But I kind of expected better from professionals.
#26.1 martinDTanderson on 24 Mar 2009 - 19:31
What makes you say that. Because of the sketches? This is how early designs are developed well before you go into more polished ideas...
#26.2 splur on 24 Mar 2009 - 21:36
I've seen sketchbooks from design, architecture and art students. Those kind of sketches would get fails.
#26.3 excalpius on 24 Mar 2009 - 22:15
Actually, these are FAR earlier prototypes than any designer/artist would have in their sketchbook or portfolio and so this is quite normal.
#26.4 splur on 25 Mar 2009 - 05:17
ah, in other words like drawings on a napkin while you're out for dinner kind of deal. that makes more sense.
#27 burnblue on 24 Mar 2009 - 23:32
I watched the video with the early changes. They had a better Windows Media preview, with volume control. They had jumplists that contained both Frequent -and- Recent.

They had better stuff.. it's not fair

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