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Windows 7: Major announcements in the coming weeks

Chaks   on 03 April 2009 - 23:17 · 88 comments & 26913 views

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PC Pro is reporting that, in a briefing at Microsoft's London headquarters, Microsoft's Windows OEM Manager, Laurence Painell has told there will be a couple of additional, quite major announcements regarding Windows 7 in the coming weeks.

Painell claimed 99% of the top 200 software titles are already compatible with Windows 7 and that most of the applications compatible with Windows Vista will be compatible with Windows 7. Painell said that Microsoft is aware that the majority of businesses are still running Windows XP and that Microsoft will help companies to continue running Windows XP software on Windows 7 desktops through Enterprise Desktop Virtualisation (MED-V) software, but also added:

"There was some misconception that I [as a business] could skip Vista and go to Windows 7, and all those incompatibilities would go away. That's not the case."

If we are indeed getting some major announcements then we can expect some major upgrades for OEMs and if we are lucky enough, we can also expect the Windows 7 release dates. We earlier reported about the Windows 7 Upgrade Program being shifted to June 26, 2009 from June 28, 2009. According to the new schedule, end users who purchase PCs pre-installed with Windows Vista between the dates June 26, 2009 to January 31, 2010 are eligible for a free Windows 7 upgrade.

Neowin has already predicted that select testers can expect the RC Escrow build of Windows 7 later this April and a public RC release at the end of May. A page appeared earlier on Microsoft's TechNet website hinting May for the release of Windows 7 RC.

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#1 Statikk on 04 Apr 2009 - 00:35
Listening to Windows Weekly this week Paul Thurott also mentioned some kind of big hush hush news he couldn't disclose yet as well. I'm intrigued...
(11 replies) #2 Intelman on 04 Apr 2009 - 00:35
What is something major that they could announce? There can't be very many surprises left, if anything.
#2.1 Sam Symons Live on 04 Apr 2009 - 00:46
Intelman said,
What is something major that they could announce? There can't be very many surprises left, if anything.

Well, that's why it's a surprise
#2.2 Intelman on 04 Apr 2009 - 00:48
My guess is it will be either lame or not that surprising. We'll see.
#2.3 FoxieFoxie on 04 Apr 2009 - 07:46
Intelman said,
What is something major that they could announce? There can't be very many surprises left, if anything.


WinFS + GUI Changes :-)

#2.4 FoxieFoxie on 04 Apr 2009 - 08:15
FoxieFoxie said,
WinFS + GUI Changes :-)


Oh, also... You know that software which runs older Win apps (by MS)? Well, yeah...
#2.5 Grandaevus on 04 Apr 2009 - 14:18
Hopefully it's that everyone gets a free upgrade from Vista so they can send it right in the crapper where it should be. Windows 7 is really what Vista should have been. Running it now and I really really prefer it to Vista.
#2.6 rm20010 on 04 Apr 2009 - 22:33
FoxieFoxie said,
WinFS + GUI Changes :-)


Please describe what WinFS does that we can't do today. Go ahead.
#2.7 Raa on 05 Apr 2009 - 00:19
Grandaevus said,
Hopefully it's that everyone gets a free upgrade from Vista so they can send it right in the crapper where it should be. Windows 7 is really what Vista should have been. Running it now and I really really prefer it to Vista.

So true...
#2.8 FoxieFoxie on 05 Apr 2009 - 19:45
rm20010 said,
Please describe what WinFS does that we can't do today. Go ahead.


Name
#2.9 shockz on 05 Apr 2009 - 23:36
FoxieFoxie said,
WinFS + GUI Changes :-)


facepalm
#2.10 Jugalator on 06 Apr 2009 - 07:34
FoxieFoxie said,
WinFS + GUI Changes :-)

Hahaha!
#2.11 Urvabara on 09 Apr 2009 - 13:38
Intelman said,
What is something major that they could announce? There can't be very many surprises left, if anything.


I hope that the surprise is week numbers in the taskbar's calendar. We need them! It would be so easy to code that feature...let's hope the best.
Maybe the surprise could also be correct meaning of kilobytes, megabytes, etc. Current versions of Windows are showing file sizes INCORRECTLY. I have a 320 gigabyte HDD, but according to Windows, it is not a 320 gigabyte HDD!
(4 replies) #3 Windows7even on 04 Apr 2009 - 00:56
they have already suprised the hell outa us with the performance..what else could they have to tell us...free upgrade for all vista users?
#3.1 michael.dobrofsky on 04 Apr 2009 - 01:02
That would win them so many fans and awesome PR...but I doubt they will. Let's hope?
#3.2 Rolith on 04 Apr 2009 - 01:20
it's debatable weather it'd be "awesome" PR... it'd result in all the vista haters feeling vindicated every time they had a gripe about anyhting "I was right about vista and i'm right about this, mIcrosoft SUCKS!!!!" would be their rally cry.

Not that'd I'd turn down a free upgrade, jsut don't think it'd do them good PR, just give creedence to their critics, justified or not...and the justified are the microsocpic minority.
#3.3 M_Lyons10 on 04 Apr 2009 - 02:03
michael.dobrofsky said,
That would win them so many fans and awesome PR...but I doubt they will. Let's hope?


That would be awful nice... lol
#3.4 Kushan on 04 Apr 2009 - 02:13
I do wonder, though, if they consider Windows 7 a "free" update to all vista users, they could probably save a lot of money on support costs by simply ending support for Vista early, but they'd lose a lot of sales from potential upgrades.
#4 +dave164 on 04 Apr 2009 - 01:08
Hmm sounds exciting
#5 +Kirbeh on 04 Apr 2009 - 01:31
windows is going open-source, duh.
(4 replies) #6 martinDTanderson on 04 Apr 2009 - 02:01
new UI to surplant Aero?
#6.1 dewaaz on 04 Apr 2009 - 02:54
martinDTanderson said,
new UI to surplant Aero?


hopefully... aero is hideous
#6.2 +dead.cell on 04 Apr 2009 - 05:21
So ugly that just about every theme created is generally a clone...
#6.3 geoken on 04 Apr 2009 - 23:17
dead.cell said,
So ugly that just about every theme created is generally a clone...


Well it isn't like their recreating Aero from scratch. They're using Aero as the base theme so it goes without saying that the majority of the themes will look similar to the common base theme.
#6.4 Jugalator on 06 Apr 2009 - 07:35
martinDTanderson said,
new UI to surplant Aero?

It doesn't even seem to be in the builds close to RC Escrow. So very, very doubtful.
(5 replies) #7 ChrisJ1968 on 04 Apr 2009 - 02:01
I don't expect a free upgrade, but I DO expect a reduced upgrade price...perhaps considerably reduced
#7.1 mrp04 on 04 Apr 2009 - 04:02
Yeah its called the upgrade version and has been around for many past versions.
#7.2 Hak Foo on 04 Apr 2009 - 06:58
mrp04 said,
Yeah its called the upgrade version and has been around for many past versions.


The upgrade is still fairly pricey. If it were $20, I'd probably consider it. If not, I'll stick with Vista.
#7.3 +Kirkburn on 04 Apr 2009 - 10:31
Hak Foo said,
The upgrade is still fairly pricey. If it were $20, I'd probably consider it. If not, I'll stick with Vista.

Are you serious? $20? What the hell do you think an OS is?
#7.4 artfuldodga on 04 Apr 2009 - 20:48
$20 lol... go download ubuntu or something if you're that cheap
#7.5 Raa on 05 Apr 2009 - 00:20
It's still cheaper to get an OEM copy (ignoring legalities here) than to get a retail upgrade. I agree, the upgrade SHOULD be cheaper, a lot cheaper.
(1 reply) #8 tonyunreal on 04 Apr 2009 - 02:19
Maybe they will annouce they changed the product name again to Windows Vista R2?
#8.1 Raa on 05 Apr 2009 - 00:20
You mean Windows Vista Second Edition™ ?
(3 replies) #9 +Xerxes on 04 Apr 2009 - 03:04
I wounder if this announcement is Windows 7 is releasing sooner then expected? considering the great strides they are making with it, they might just skip RC1 and go straight to RTM. Although hell is more likely to freeze over then this happen
#9.1 devHead on 04 Apr 2009 - 06:57
I wouldn't be too surprised; I'm testing 7068 and it's really amazing how stable it's running for me. My goodness, XP came out about 1 1/2 years after Windows 2000 (Feb 2000 - Oct 2001) since it was built on the same kernel. It's already been longer than that between Vista and 7.
#9.2 XerXis on 04 Apr 2009 - 09:06
devHead said,
I wouldn't be too surprised; I'm testing 7068 and it's really amazing how stable it's running for me. My goodness, XP came out about 1 1/2 years after Windows 2000 (Feb 2000 - Oct 2001) since it was built on the same kernel. It's already been longer than that between Vista and 7.


yes and it had all sorts of problems which were not solved untill sp2
#9.3 GP007 on 04 Apr 2009 - 10:04
People tend to forget about all the old XP problems before SP2 because it's easier to bash Vista then.
(2 replies) #10 xpclient on 04 Apr 2009 - 03:24
It might be related to older application compatibility..like they've made many many more XP compatible apps 7 compatible, shipping Virtual PC vNext as part of the OS, giving away App-V for free to end users or getting something back they removed.
#10.1 Raa on 05 Apr 2009 - 00:22
It could be.... If it's a matter of double clicking an app, setting to "winxp" mode and it works with no more changes, then i'm so up for it. I'd switch everything I have to Win7 in a heartbeat!
#10.2 xpclient on 06 Apr 2009 - 11:50
I now have a feeling it'll be an announcement on what'll be available on downlevel OSes..WMP12. DirectX 11 for Vista. nothing for XP and so on.
(1 reply) #11 Mav Phoenix on 04 Apr 2009 - 03:55
How about a price? Something reasonable would be major.
#11.1 devHead on 04 Apr 2009 - 06:54

Especially for those upgrading from Vista.
(3 replies) #12 reactionary007 on 04 Apr 2009 - 04:14
I'm thinking a price drop. Gotta be. Either that or something for business - where soooo many have stuck with XP up to this point.
#12.1 Osiris on 04 Apr 2009 - 07:21
reactionary007 said,
I'm thinking a price drop. Gotta be. Either that or something for business - where soooo many have stuck with XP up to this point.


The only reason a business is stuck with XP is due to legacy apps. Windows 7 being built on Vista isnt going to change that situation. If thats not the case then you arent stuck with XP you're business just decided to stay in the backwaters for an excessive amount of time because no one in y our IT department would take the initiative to try vista post launch or sp1 edition.
#12.2 GP007 on 04 Apr 2009 - 10:05
That's why MS has App-V and so on. Virtualisation is the way off the legacy problem.

Tossing in Virtual PC for free would be nice. If they can that is, might have legal problems with it from VMWare bitching.
#12.3 Raa on 05 Apr 2009 - 00:23
Didn't Vista Ultimate feature something about virtualisation? Not a feature, but a licensing agreement that meant you could use it at no charge...
#13 asfaltas on 04 Apr 2009 - 04:31
major suprises will be in windows 8 but not in win7
(1 reply) #14 ricksterto on 04 Apr 2009 - 05:34
RTM serials are being issued as of April 2/09. Wondering if this has a bearing on the RTM release date?
#14.1 Raa on 05 Apr 2009 - 00:23
Source?
(1 reply) #15 devHead on 04 Apr 2009 - 06:54
I'm hoping the major announcement will be that Windows 7 will go RTM this May/June. That would be before my Technet Subscription expires and I can continue testing it as a completed build. Maybe Paul Thurrot was pretty close when he said that it would RTM early!
#15.1 +Kirkburn on 04 Apr 2009 - 10:34
devHead said,
I'm hoping the major announcement will be that Windows 7 will go RTM this May/June. That would be before my Technet Subscription expires and I can continue testing it as a completed build. Maybe Paul Thurrot was pretty close when he said that it would RTM early!

We still have an RC to test.
(4 replies) #16 jamesVault on 04 Apr 2009 - 07:08
The major announcement is the following:
"Congratulations to all testers, but Windows 7 is just the SP2 for Windows Vista."

Last edited by rm20010 on 04 Apr 2009 - 08:37
#16.1 testman on 04 Apr 2009 - 08:38
jamesVault said,
The major announcement is the following:
"Congratulations to all testers, but Windows 7 is just the SP2 for Windows Vista."

Of course, this is just silly thinking.
#16.2 +Kirkburn on 04 Apr 2009 - 10:33
jamesVault said,
The major announcement is the following:
"Congratulations to all testers, but Windows 7 is just the SP2 for Windows Vista."

You're so funny .... not!

(Yes, I used the same level of humour)

Seriously now, it's getting old.
#16.3 Calum on 04 Apr 2009 - 12:51
Kirkburn said,
Seriously now, it's getting old.

Agreed. It annoys me so much when misguided people say such things.
#16.4 +Kirkburn on 05 Apr 2009 - 21:37
Calum said,
Agreed. It annoys me so much when misguided people say such things.

Can you imagine a guy continually repeating the same knock-knock for a year?
#17 M.F.D.K on 04 Apr 2009 - 09:43
Definitely not a GUI change, most likely it will be something like business related.
(1 reply) #18 boogerjones on 04 Apr 2009 - 11:37
To all of you idiots thinking it will be about a major GUI change or feature implementation: prepare to be disappointed.
#18.1 Raa on 05 Apr 2009 - 00:25
Based on what? Your gut feeling? Win7 isn't in RC, which means features *could* still be added. Doubt it's a GUI change though.
#19 Windows7even on 04 Apr 2009 - 11:40
they are probably official releasing the pricing/version tier information

free upgrades for vista users because they are sorry that vista is so bad
(1 reply) #20 +Tony. on 04 Apr 2009 - 12:48
There won't be a major UI change, let's make that perfectly clear. RC = feature complete.
#20.1 Raa on 05 Apr 2009 - 00:25
It's not in formal RC yet?
(2 replies) #21 darkmanx21 on 04 Apr 2009 - 13:09
Everyone knows..it's going to Ultimate Extras! Hahaha! Seems people are not spilling the beans on this one.
#21.1 Atlonite on 04 Apr 2009 - 13:41
dont you mean Ultimate Duds how can you claim a bunch of diferent language files are Ultimate Extra's thats just a load of old codz any way you want to sniff it
#21.2 Raa on 05 Apr 2009 - 00:25
But Tinker was such a good game!!!
(4 replies) #22 gate1975mlm on 04 Apr 2009 - 14:10
I have inside info and yes there will be a UI change!!
#22.1 technobeaver on 04 Apr 2009 - 16:25
I bet!
#22.2 osm0sis on 05 Apr 2009 - 00:01
It WOULD be nice if they'd switch the Start button. That's the only thing I'd hope for. The circular gem doesn't really fit with the slickness of the rest of the new superbar.
#22.3 hardgiant on 05 Apr 2009 - 01:16
osm0sis said,
It WOULD be nice if they'd switch the Start button. That's the only thing I'd hope for. The circular gem doesn't really fit with the slickness of the rest of the new superbar.


Agreed. It needs to fit the squareness of the rest of the items.
#22.4 k7of9 on 05 Apr 2009 - 11:07
gate1975mlm said,
I have inside info and yes there will be a UI change!!

That's strange. Because my neighbor's pet doctor has an ucle that know someone who works at MS and he said there won't be a UI change :?
#23 winkento on 04 Apr 2009 - 14:19
Maybe the ability to personalize the Aero glass theme with "Styles" in Control Panel\Appearance and Personalization\Personalization?...
#24 Dwarden on 04 Apr 2009 - 15:35
Major announcement would be that 'Windows 7' is free for non commercial use ... now that would shake world
#25 vetneufuse on 04 Apr 2009 - 15:54
Major Announcement - All windows SKU's except server being consolidated *gasp* jk
(1 reply) #26 NinjaGinger on 04 Apr 2009 - 20:37
"There was some misconception that I [as a business] could skip Vista and go to Windows 7, and all those incompatibilities would go away. That's not the case."


From that bit ,it would seem to say Vista to 7 no probs, XP to 7 your in trouble, unless i misinterpret.
#26.1 Raa on 05 Apr 2009 - 00:27
XP to Vista was worse, I think a lot of people will look hard at Win7. Lets face it, if you need XP for legacy stuff only, it's time to put that pc in the corner and get a new one...
Unfortunate, but it happens. (Can't believe i'm saying that!)
(1 reply) #27 hardgiant on 05 Apr 2009 - 01:15
1. UI changes
2. Free Upgrade

Only two that really matter...
#27.1 The Canadian on 05 Apr 2009 - 10:28
hardgiant said,
2. Free Upgrade


I was just going to mention Microsoft should make Windows 7 a free upgrade, but free to everyone who owns a copy of Windows Vista regardless of Vista's version...!


(4 replies) #28 k7of9 on 05 Apr 2009 - 11:11
Let's hope it's not a UI change.

MS and "last minute" UI changes...Luna ring a bell?

The current UI is going in the right direction, I hope they will just keep refining that so we have a nice consistent UI.
#28.1 hardgiant on 05 Apr 2009 - 13:13
k7of9 said,
Let's hope it's not a UI change.

MS and "last minute" UI changes...Luna ring a bell?

The current UI is going in the right direction, I hope they will just keep refining that so we have a nice consistent UI.


It looks to much like Vista right now and that makes it more difficult to sell.
#28.2 shockz on 05 Apr 2009 - 23:38
hardgiant said,
k7of9 said,
Let's hope it's not a UI change.

MS and "last minute" UI changes...Luna ring a bell?

The current UI is going in the right direction, I hope they will just keep refining that so we have a nice consistent UI.


It looks to much like Vista right now and that makes it more difficult to sell.


Not really... the only thing thats really the same are the title bars.
#28.3 k7of9 on 06 Apr 2009 - 08:14
hardgiant said,
k7of9 said,
Let's hope it's not a UI change.

MS and "last minute" UI changes...Luna ring a bell?

The current UI is going in the right direction, I hope they will just keep refining that so we have a nice consistent UI.


It looks to much like Vista right now and that makes it more difficult to sell.

It looks quite a bit different from Vista for anyone who looks beyond a screenshot. 7 is much more refined than Vista. Sure the glass and so is there but I don“t think a complete major overhaul to Windows is going to do any good. They should stick with a look and keep improving and refining that.
#28.4 osm0sis on 06 Apr 2009 - 19:49
I hope they "refine" the Start button gem into something that fits better with the taskbar when it's using large icons..
(2 replies) #29 angel1610 on 05 Apr 2009 - 23:53
Well if you remember win me just look at vista and there we go again in the same boat.
#29.1 +macf13nd on 06 Apr 2009 - 13:12
sorry what?
#29.2 C_Guy on 06 Apr 2009 - 14:53
I think he's saying that he struggled with Windows Me and hasn't been able to do any better for himself with Vista.
#30 C_Guy on 06 Apr 2009 - 14:52
"There was some misconception that I [as a business] could skip Vista and go to Windows 7, and all those incompatibilities would go away. That's not the case."

DUH do ya think so? Maybe this is why Microsoft has been recommending that businesses get started on Vista and not to wait around for Windows 7. Too bad you didn't pay any attention..


Painell claimed 99% of the top 200 software titles are already compatible with Windows 7
Really? And who has the authority to decide what the top 200 software titles are?
#31 +dave164 on 07 Apr 2009 - 12:24
To everyone who thinks their going to get a free upgrade to a new, better OS, is very much mistaken.

Microsoft is a business, there not going to develop this awesome new OS, then say to everyone oh yeah here you go, have it for free. It's an operating system for heavens sake, not a spyware remover..

At the end of the day you bought Vista, and you'll end up buying 7, and Microsoft know that. And the reality is that 90% of people i know are happy with Vista, and the remaining 10% are people who are only going by old anti-vista hype.

#32 Ruciz on 07 Apr 2009 - 12:43
well, I installed vista. and it crashes my system whenever it feels so. Could be burning a disc, checking email. could be listening to music. could be watching the wallpaper and it reboots. XP is rock solid, and don't spontaniously reboot.

So I may be in that 10% of anti-vista folks, but its not because of people or media or any bad reviews... Its because the software literally does not work, even with SP1 and all the latest drivers. It crashes. With a Q6600 system, with a $300 asus mainboard. I install XP and it works. Same hardware, same configuration.. Its unacceptible to have it crashing. Its a waste of my license fee. Windows 7 hasn't crashed yet, even on a system with 1.3GHz 500MB ram... I am sure RTM will change that tho

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