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Amazon and Wal-Mart raise digital music prices too

Brad Sams   on 08 April 2009 - 11:48 · 46 comments & 5538 views

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When Apple claimed that it would be raising prices on its iTunes tracks to $1.29 for the most popular (but DRM free) songs the masses railed Apple for raising the price bar. It appears that Apple may have not been the reason for the price hike and that the music industry is to blame.

Today the Amazon music store as well as Wal-Mart's music store have raised their prices as well. Amazon's music prices now range from 0.79 to a high of $1.29, while Walmart's span the range for .64 - $1.24.

While the stores do have lower pricing on some songs it goes without saying that nearly all the songs you will want to purchase will most likely be at the highest price point. Is DRM free really worth an extra .30 cents a song? That's up to the user to decide if they want to continue to purchase music or go back to torrents and limewire for all of their music needs.

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(5 replies) #1 Ricksterm on 08 Apr 2009 - 12:42
The music industry wants to curb piracy but they raise the prices of music! seems they are stabbing themselves in the foot there
But it all comes down to greed
#1.1 WhoAmI5423 on 08 Apr 2009 - 13:15
I agree. Raising the price in an already bad economy is not going to help curve piracy! I think the greedy music industry needs to reconsider that move!
#1.2 Dashel on 08 Apr 2009 - 14:43
Stop conflating the two to justify your own immorality. The industry is generally greedy to the artist, not the bitchy consumers. We actually have it pretty damn good.
#1.3 20legend on 08 Apr 2009 - 16:03
Dashel said,
Stop conflating the two to justify your own immorality. The industry is generally greedy to the artist, not the bitchy consumers. We actually have it pretty damn good.


Pull the other one!!! The music industry is just plain greedy NQAT. Do you honestly think that an industry, with it's business model still in the dark ages, does anything to genuinely benefit the customer with regard to pricing?
Discounts and price drops are not done as goodwill gestures, they are incentives to increase sales, therefore increasing income for the industry.

Seems to me that the music industry is turning the screw on the price of single song downloads to try and make up some of the ground lost on album sales. Maybe if more of the albums that are released were decent quality throughout (not just 1 or 2 songs) and sold at a sensible price , more people would still buy them.
#1.4 +Lexcyn on 08 Apr 2009 - 16:13
Ricksterm said,
The music industry wants to curb piracy but they raise the prices of music! seems they are stabbing themselves in the foot there
But it all comes down to greed

Totally agreed.
#1.5 Xion-UK on 08 Apr 2009 - 22:59
20legend said,
Maybe if more of the albums that are released were decent quality throughout (not just 1 or 2 songs) and sold at a sensible price , more people would still buy them.

I so agree to this, ****es me right off to buy an album to find it's crap barr the two to four songs that get released as the singles.
(5 replies) #2 pasty2k2 on 08 Apr 2009 - 12:51
Ill stick to buying the CD thanks.
#2.1 +littleneutrino on 08 Apr 2009 - 13:03
pasty2k2 said,
Ill stick to buying the CD thanks.

Same i can rip it myself and its already DRM free and the CD is a backup.
#2.2 C_Guy on 08 Apr 2009 - 14:24
Yup, DRM free since... well, ever. Plus you get a FREE book!
#2.3 abysal on 08 Apr 2009 - 15:02
pasty2k2 said,
Ill stick to buying the CD thanks.


Same here.
#2.4 Fox-HTV on 08 Apr 2009 - 15:54
C_Guy said,
Yup, DRM free since... well, ever. Plus you get a FREE book!

That's not quite accurate. Sony had been putting a form of DRM on CDs for a short time until they got caught.
#2.5 Pam14160 on 08 Apr 2009 - 21:07
Some good points pro and con. But here is something to think about; you can record the music using a good music recording program (must free). The only draw back is it requires you to control the input levels, and then listen to the song as you record. But hell if it's a song you want then it shouldn't matter. You can use this method listening to online music stations (Pandora, Last.fm, etc.) You can use this record process with tapes, and records. I just finished last year doing just that with a music collection that spanned fifty years of music (over four-K of record albums , 45's, and reel to reel tapes).
(3 replies) #3 zeke009 on 08 Apr 2009 - 13:01
I haven't bought a CD in a long time and I rarely ever buy digital tracks. Nothing interests me these days. I got the new Metallica as a gift (glad to see them kicking ass again! ) and that was the only CD recently released I had any interest in.

The Music Industry is just ****ed they can't sell us 1 good track for $12.99 while the other 12 or so tracks are so bad they could be used as a torture device. Ah, the good old days!
#3.1 The Gunslinger on 08 Apr 2009 - 13:43
zeke009 said,
I haven't bought a CD in a long time and I rarely ever buy digital tracks. Nothing interests me these days. I got the new Metallica as a gift (glad to see them kicking ass again! ) and that was the only CD recently released I had any interest in.

The Music Industry is just ****ed they can't sell us 1 good track for $12.99 while the other 12 or so tracks are so bad they could be used as a torture device. Ah, the good old days!


Well put...These days to make the same amount of money, they need 12 good songs, but with the current state of music, I would be surprised if artists can put together at least one decent song.
#3.2 The Gunslinger on 08 Apr 2009 - 13:43
zeke009 said,
I haven't bought a CD in a long time and I rarely ever buy digital tracks. Nothing interests me these days. I got the new Metallica as a gift (glad to see them kicking ass again! ) and that was the only CD recently released I had any interest in.

The Music Industry is just ****ed they can't sell us 1 good track for $12.99 while the other 12 or so tracks are so bad they could be used as a torture device. Ah, the good old days!


Well put...These days to make the same amount of money, they need 12 good songs, but with the current state of music, I would be surprised if artists can put together at least one decent song.
#3.3 C_Guy on 08 Apr 2009 - 14:29
Yeah, ok, no disagreement that the vast majority of new music is like sewage on steroids... And people (myself included) can argue it is not worth buying... But it can't be that bad if people are still willing to take the time to steal it. You can't tell me that if it was better quality that the pirates of the world would hold off on their illegal download and buy it legally...

If music was truly that bad it wouldn't even be pirated.
(1 reply) #4 S7un7 on 08 Apr 2009 - 13:05
Who had the bright idea of RAISING the prices when people are more than ever watching how much money they spend.....
#4.1 roadwarrior on 08 Apr 2009 - 13:38
S7un7 said,
Who had the bright idea of RAISING the prices when people are more than ever watching how much money they spend.....


Probably the same people who decided it was a bright idea to sue someone who didn't even have a computer for illegally downloading music.
(3 replies) #5 +chorpeac on 08 Apr 2009 - 13:16
Wasn't there a story on here the other day mentioning that Apple was raising their prices but AMAZON was still low? Now AMAZON has changed as well? Gesh..
#5.1 LaP on 08 Apr 2009 - 14:00
No the story was Apple raised the price because Apple is greedy and overprice everything.

We all know Amazon increased their price because the industry asked them too. Amazon loves us so much can't be greed on its part,
#5.2 GreyWolfSC on 08 Apr 2009 - 15:49
LaP said,
No the story was Apple raised the price because Apple is greedy and overprice everything.

We all know Amazon increased their price because the industry asked them too. Amazon loves us so much can't be greed on its part,


Actually, the story, as reported here, was that Apple changed their pricing structure because the record industry insisted on it.
#5.3 Fox-HTV on 08 Apr 2009 - 15:58
LaP said,
...Apple raised the price because Apple is greedy and overprice everything.

Even if the industry made it happen, Apple overpricing is more often true than not, lol.
(5 replies) #6 roadwarrior on 08 Apr 2009 - 13:36
Where are all of the anti-Apple trolls who where here the other day bashing Apple, saying that it was simply Apple's greed at work and not the recording industry raising prices? Are you guys going to come back here and say you were wrong? Of course you won't.
#6.1 LaP on 08 Apr 2009 - 14:01
You have more chances to date Jessica Alba than seeing them coming back here and take back what they said.
#6.2 C_Guy on 08 Apr 2009 - 14:27
You can throw around "troll" all you want (do you even know what it means?) but when it comes to raising prices, Apple camped out so it could be first in line to do so.
#6.3 NeoTrunks on 08 Apr 2009 - 15:13
roadwarrior said,
Where are all of the anti-Apple trolls who where here the other day bashing Apple, saying that it was simply Apple's greed at work and not the recording industry raising prices? Are you guys going to come back here and say you were wrong? Of course you won't.


They simply don't want to hear anyone say "We told you so."
#6.4 Julius Caro on 08 Apr 2009 - 15:42
roadwarrior said,
Where are all of the anti-Apple trolls who where here the other day bashing Apple, saying that it was simply Apple's greed at work and not the recording industry raising prices? Are you guys going to come back here and say you were wrong? Of course you won't.


We've known the industry's been preassuring apple for years to let them have variable prices. I just hoped the other stores would not fall =(
#6.5 roadwarrior on 08 Apr 2009 - 16:14
C_Guy said,
You can throw around "troll" all you want (do you even know what it means?) but when it comes to raising prices, Apple camped out so it could be first in line to do so.


LOL!! I mention anti-Apple trolls, and guess who comes out from under his bridge? C_Guy, of course!!
#7 lee26 on 08 Apr 2009 - 14:03
Well amazon have just lowered some from 49p (74 cents) to 29p (43 cents) in the uk so bad luck americans out there.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/technolo...000/7987939.stm
(5 replies) #8 +Hell-In-A-Handbasket on 08 Apr 2009 - 14:36
ill go back to Torrents on Pubic Wifi, if i like the music/songs/cd's. then ill purchase
#8.1 Dashel on 08 Apr 2009 - 14:39
Thats the point genius, where are you going to buy them? Not what will justify the price to a group of pathetic 'gimme gimme' whiners.
#8.2 Xero on 08 Apr 2009 - 14:52
I stopped pirating music because it was so much easier to just buy it off iTunes. If they start drastically increasing the prices I might be more inclined to turn back. ****in studios.

Btw, what happened to Amazon's price war from yesterday. What a load of bull****
#8.3 Magallanes on 08 Apr 2009 - 15:36
Xero said,
Btw, what happened to Amazon's price war from yesterday. What a load of bull****


Yes, sometimes Neowin pwned themself. :-P


Hell-In-A-Handbasket said,
ill go back to Torrents on Pubic Wifi, if i like the music/songs/cd's. then ill purchase


usually the " go back to piracy" usually is "stay pirate for a little longer" ;-)
#8.4 duneworld on 08 Apr 2009 - 16:47
Wtf is pubic wifi?!?!?
#8.5 Xero on 08 Apr 2009 - 19:49
Public WiFi is a public wifi hotspot. Places like Starbucks offer this and I'm sure there are others I just don't know the name of. Not required for torrents but I guess some people feel it protects them doing so. In the words of Mr. Garrison, pirating is bad mmmmmkay.
#9 Shadrack on 08 Apr 2009 - 15:13
Damn. Online music sells went down! Must be because of piracy X|
(1 reply) #10 +dead.cell on 08 Apr 2009 - 15:16
Would this be anything like price fixing?

I mean, by definition: The result of an unlawful agreement between manufacturers or dealers to set and maintain specified prices on typically competing products.

Is that not what's happening here?
#10.1 Julius Caro on 08 Apr 2009 - 15:35
dead.cell said,
Would this be anything like price fixing?

I mean, by definition: The result of an unlawful agreement between manufacturers or dealers to set and maintain specified prices on typically competing products.

Is that not what's happening here?


I guess so but it would have to be demonstrated. It may not be a price-fixing case:
1) probably a "base price" is set by the music industry anyway
2) the rest of the price of the song can either be the result of an agreement or they match their prices to be able to compete.

#11 Julius Caro on 08 Apr 2009 - 15:33
Apple was obviously not the reason anyway. DAMN I wanted amazonMP3 to be the cool ones =(
#12 Sean Bradford on 08 Apr 2009 - 15:58
I'll stick with the Zune Marketplace. The beauty of the Zune Pass is that you do get DRM songs, but you also get to keep 10 tracks a month. On top of that, I'm not sure if any of you still use CDs, but I sure don't. I plug in my MP3 player to my CD player in the car and enjoy saving money instead of buying hundreds of CDs.
#13 Airlink on 08 Apr 2009 - 17:16
Music piracy FTW.. as always.
#14 +evn. on 08 Apr 2009 - 17:23
One thing about the recent changes is that Apple's dropping DRM tracks completely. Sounds great right? Unfortunately some albums weren't available without DRM and have been dropped from the catalog entirely.

I'm left with 48 tracks that have DRM from the iTunes store after converting the other ~1,200 to DRM free (or that were purchased without DRM in the first place).

Cirque du Soleil soundtrack for K� was available on iTunes (IIRC this was one of the few $12 albums) but has since vanished. Likewise Turisas has vanished from the iTunes store completely. I had picked up a few random tracks to sample their music before I saw them live in December -- I liked it but didn't want to order more DRM music so I held off finishing the albums. iTunes has dropped them and Amazon charges $2 for the tracks I want most. The total price of buying the music will end up being damn near double what I would have paid for the CDs had I been willing to wait in line after the show. None of the music stores in town carries their albums and they aren't touring near me either.

My understanding is that Amazon is also region locked based on credit card which makes it difficult for me to use them if they don't operate in Canada and I don't have a credit card in the UK.

My music library consists of nearly 5,000 songs purchased online from one store or another (not counting ripped stuff, fan mixes, etc). I'm not opposed to paying for music even at Apple's rates if the final product is good but they're making it really hard to justify staying 'legal'.

I live in a country where peer-to-peer downloading isn't illegal and where I can borrow CDs from my friends or the library and burn copies for myself.

If I'm being sent back to dealing with physical media in order to buy music then to hell with 'em: I'm not paying 10x more for the hassle. I'll see the bands I like in concert and download or burn their libraries until it stops being a complete pain in the ass.
(1 reply) #15 ThaCrip on 08 Apr 2009 - 18:53
"Amazon and Wal-Mart raise digital music prices too"

it aint hurting me any and everyone else that's 'wise' in this area lol
#15.1 michael.dobrofsky on 09 Apr 2009 - 00:13
Are you implying that by saying 'wise' you mean 'steal'? That's fine, if you wanna steal, steal.
#16 Quikboy on 09 Apr 2009 - 04:22
I hope Zune Marketplace doesn't raise prices either.
#17 liberatus_sum on 09 Apr 2009 - 04:59
I'll keep downloading flac and dts 5.1 thx

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