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Next-gen iPhone component list leaked?

Sam Symons   on 15 April 2009 - 21:09 · 53 comments & 11648 views

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It's been a few days since there's been an iPhone rumor, so here goes folks. DigiTimes has posted a component list, complete with suppliers, for Apple's inevitable next-gen iPhone.


Source: DigiTimes.

The sources are all from the industry supplying the components to Apple, and they state that the new "iPhone 3.0" will be launched mid-2009, and shipments will kick off in May, with the first being in the amount of 5 million units. DigiTimes states, "TSMC have landed foundry orders for GSM EDGE power amplifiers, Bluetooth ICs and 3.2-megapixel OmniVision CMOS image sensor (CIS) used in the upcoming iPhone model, indicated the sources. Xintec will handle the packaging and testing service for the CIS whereas VisEra will manufacture on-chip color filters for the CIS."

This is just another rumor in the pot, which again seems to indicate a new iPhone will be released this year. It's pretty obvious now, but it's always nice to see more (rumored) proof that it's happening.

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#1 mmck on 15 Apr 2009 - 22:25
Now they just need a flash on it from Sony Ericsson
(11 replies) #2 Emon on 15 Apr 2009 - 22:42
Still a 3.2 megapixel camera?!?
#2.1 njlouch on 15 Apr 2009 - 23:04
Yup, fail!
#2.2 MightyJordan on 15 Apr 2009 - 23:33
Emon said,
Still a 3.2 megapixel camera?!?

What do you mean "still"? The previous models all had 2.0MP cameras.
#2.3 PsykX on 16 Apr 2009 - 00:07
And 3.2 Mpixels is pretty decent for a cellphone IMO. It also depends on the quality of the pictures, if you have a 10 Mpixels but the quality blows.... what's the point?
#2.4 mmck on 16 Apr 2009 - 01:16
PsykX said,
And 3.2 Mpixels is pretty decent for a cellphone IMO. It also depends on the quality of the pictures, if you have a 10 Mpixels but the quality blows.... what's the point?


Exactly - most people don't understand this however and are like "OMG 10mp!" little do they realise for printing their 6x4's they only need about 2 if the camera take decent quality pictures. Of course having more gives benefits such as cropping means it doesn't become pixelated if you want just a fraction of the photo, or on the off chance you print out bigger. My camera is only 6mp though and I print out at A3 occasionally with good photo quality fine.
#2.5 Xero on 16 Apr 2009 - 01:17
Yea who really cares. If you want high quality photos GET A CAMERA lol

I'm sick of people complaining about not having some crazy high quality camera in your phone. It's meant for spur of the moment pictures not to take stock photography. 3.2 is fine.
#2.6 andrewbares on 16 Apr 2009 - 01:48
Higher quality means that there can be new innovations with a camera on a phone, like text recognition or barcode readers, like we have on our Windows phones.
#2.7 Xero on 16 Apr 2009 - 01:49
There already is that, but it could be better. So I'll give you that.
#2.8 n_K on 16 Apr 2009 - 10:35
And I was hoping for a gigapixel camera and all, 'oh such a let down...', etc. etc.
#2.9 hotdog963al on 16 Apr 2009 - 13:02
My current phone has a 3.2MP, it's perfectly fine!
#2.10 Magallanes on 16 Apr 2009 - 13:21
Xero said,
Yea who really cares. If you want high quality photos GET A CAMERA lol

I'm sick of people complaining about not having some crazy high quality camera in your phone. It's meant for spur of the moment pictures not to take stock photography. 3.2 is fine.



The 3.2megapixel is fine for the average Joe but Iphone is a premium-price product.




#2.11 flash_flicker on 16 Apr 2009 - 15:20
so you seem to be above that average joe......then why do you want to spend so much on Iphone for a camera ?? you can get a professional camera for much below Iphone's price !!
(10 replies) #3 +bob21 on 15 Apr 2009 - 22:43
A-GPS only ? no Snapdragon?

Fail
#3.1 -Damian on 15 Apr 2009 - 23:31
bob21 said,
A-GPS only ? no Snapdragon?

Fail

What do you mean by A-GPS only?
What kind of other systems do you want? Glonass? Galileo?
#3.2 +bob21 on 15 Apr 2009 - 23:37
Regular GPS , Without relaying on the network.
#3.3 vetSHoTTa35 on 15 Apr 2009 - 23:56
bob21 said,
Regular GPS , Without relaying on the network.


If you knew anything about GPS you'd know the A in A-GPS means Assisted. Meaning it can use normal GPS satalites but the system by itself will prolly take 1-2mins to obtain a lock. With A-GPS the phone downloads information about satalites location so it locks in 10-15 seconds.

Don't confuse assisted with triangulation which uses cell towers to kinda guess where you are.
#3.4 -Damian on 16 Apr 2009 - 00:26
bob21 said,
Regular GPS , Without relaying on the network.

A-GPS = regular GPS
See SHoTTa35's comment.
#3.5 boo_star on 16 Apr 2009 - 01:35
-Damian said,
A-GPS = regular GPS
See SHoTTa35's comment.


Yes but the iPhones GPS fails miserably if it can't connect to cell towers.

It is sadly reliant on triangulation initially, if it can't do that it breaks.

No GPS for you (as a fully paid contract 3G user so I can speak from experience.)
#3.6 andrewbares on 16 Apr 2009 - 01:49
What do other phones have in them, like Windows phones?

Normal GPS does sound a lot better.
#3.7 boo_star on 16 Apr 2009 - 02:04
andrewbares said,
What do other phones have in them, like Windows phones?

Normal GPS does sound a lot better.



No idea honestly but the iPhone GPS is utterly reliant on a cellphone connection, stick it Airplane mode (Wifi still works) and GPS is gone ( for no reason)
#3.8 Ledward on 16 Apr 2009 - 02:48
andrewbares said,
What do other phones have in them, like Windows phones?

Normal GPS does sound a lot better.

In theory the iPhone GPS should work without assistance from the cellular network. Windows Mobile phone also have A-GPS but they work with or without assistance from triangulation. On most WM6.1 ROMs triangulation is disabled by default. Instead, there's a program called "QuickGPS" that downloads satelite location data to the phone and stores it for a week.
#3.9 WhoTheF on 16 Apr 2009 - 05:55
What did you expect? An SLR built into your phone?
#3.10 PureLegend on 17 Apr 2009 - 09:24
boo_star said,
Yes but the iPhones GPS fails miserably if it can't connect to cell towers.

It is sadly reliant on triangulation initially, if it can't do that it breaks.

No GPS for you (as a fully paid contract 3G user so I can speak from experience.)

Well bear in mind the maps aren't stored on the phone, they're downloaded as you go, so having no signal at all might have something to do with it not working.
andrewbares said,
What do other phones have in them, like Windows phones?

Normal GPS does sound a lot better.

But A-GPS is better than GPS no matter how you look at it. That's like comparing two identical cars, one coming with a free massage, and saying "I've heard that if you don't get the massage the car runs faster"
(3 replies) #4 emzino on 15 Apr 2009 - 22:47
Isn't A-GPS better than GPS? I know this is flame bait but looking for a technical answer to this that's all. I remember reading how it's better at picking up a signal to conventional GPS.

Edit: 3.2MP... well judging by the 2MP on the current iPhone, i'm sure this 3.2MP will be more like a 5MP because the 2MP is actually pretty good.
#4.1 +bob21 on 15 Apr 2009 - 22:56
It is when used in conjunction with regular satellite navigation , It can take over when the user drives under a tunnel for instance but it uses bandwidth and isn't as accurate as regular GPS.

This is 2009 apple come on , GPS has been common in PDA Phones since 2002 with the early Acer models .
#4.2 Avian on 15 Apr 2009 - 23:51
bob21 said,
It is when used in conjunction with regular satellite navigation , It can take over when the user drives under a tunnel for instance but it uses bandwidth and isn't as accurate as regular GPS.

This is 2009 apple come on , GPS has been common in PDA Phones since 2002 with the early Acer models .


A-GPS is the same as GPS but it uses tower triangulation instead of the usual warm up that most GPS systems need. Get your facts straight, it's just as accurate as a regular gps.
#4.3 Mr. Andrews on 16 Apr 2009 - 00:06
I'd say more accurate tbh. Simply because it knows your location as accurately, but sooner.
#5 -Bryce- on 15 Apr 2009 - 22:56
so where are the commercials. iphone 3g was marketed way b4 release if i remember.
(1 reply) #6 Jugalator on 15 Apr 2009 - 23:00
"Rumored proof"
#6.1 Sam Symons on 16 Apr 2009 - 02:07
Jugalator said,
"Rumored proof"

It's the only suitable phrase I could think of, even if it contradicts itself.
(6 replies) #7 shockz on 15 Apr 2009 - 23:28
OLED display?
#7.1 Xero on 16 Apr 2009 - 01:19
I wish. Probably not though. However iPod refresh cycles are later than iPhone, perhaps they will release an OLED iPod to help combat the new supposed OLED in the Zune. I hope it does have one, I'm anxious to see an OLED in one of these handheld devices.
#7.2 andrewbares on 16 Apr 2009 - 01:51
Yay, Zune! OLED sounds pretty sick! I can't wait for the new Zune.
#7.3 Macalicious on 16 Apr 2009 - 10:09
Xero said,
I wish. Probably not though. However iPod refresh cycles are later than iPhone, perhaps they will release an OLED iPod to help combat the new supposed OLED in the Zune. I hope it does have one, I'm anxious to see an OLED in one of these handheld devices.


I'm anxious - only as so far as being anxious about a shorter device life. OLED is still immature technology, I would sooner wait for it to get the bugs worked out before spending money on an expensive device with said technology.
#7.4 +Kirkburn on 16 Apr 2009 - 13:34
Macalicious said,
I'm anxious - only as so far as being anxious about a shorter device life. OLED is still immature technology, I would sooner wait for it to get the bugs worked out before spending money on an expensive device with said technology.

Bugs?

From looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_light...e#Disadvantages it looks like "5 years at 8 hours a day" is a possible limit. I don't think anyone uses a mobile or PDA's display even close to that much.
#7.5 Xero on 16 Apr 2009 - 14:18
I thought OLED improved battery life? or am I mistaken?
#7.6 winrez on 16 Apr 2009 - 16:31
andrewbares said,
Yay, Zune! OLED sounds pretty sick! I can't wait for the new Zune.


I am planning on updating my Zune 30 and 2 80gb ones to the new one it looks sweet
(4 replies) #8 Shetland on 15 Apr 2009 - 23:28
why does everyone think more megapixels are better?!
3.2 is larger than alot of people's desktop resolutions! autofocus > megapixels EVERY time.
#8.1 PsykX on 16 Apr 2009 - 00:08
why does everyone think more megapixels are better?!

Finally, someone who's not blinded by this caracteristic...
#8.2 Raa on 16 Apr 2009 - 00:14
Indeed, it's called the Megapixel myth (google it)
#8.3 PsykX on 16 Apr 2009 - 01:46
Hahah it's funny because there's no such kind of myth in fact. A megapixel is a term clearly defined...

But obviously yeah there's a myth with that.. and it has to do with the average ignorance
#8.4 +d4v1d05 on 16 Apr 2009 - 12:14
PsykX said,
Hahah it's funny because there's no such kind of myth in fact. A megapixel is a term clearly defined...

But obviously yeah there's a myth with that.. and it has to do with the average ignorance

Point is, megapixels in phones are simple interpolated, so you probably only get 2MP in your 5MP phone, it just gets blown up by the image processor to be 5MP, losing quality along the way... Hence having a 3.2MP sensor is better than having a 2MP one and marketing it as 5MP... At least that's my understanding...
(2 replies) #9 vetneufuse on 15 Apr 2009 - 23:41
WCDMA? Really? I thought it was a GSM only phone?
#9.1 profets on 15 Apr 2009 - 23:56
Wcdma is the air interface that 3G gsm / umts / hspa runs on. The current iPhone 3G uses it as well.
#9.2 vetneufuse on 16 Apr 2009 - 00:34
profets said,
Wcdma is the air interface that 3G gsm / umts / hspa runs on. The current iPhone 3G uses it as well.


aah
(2 replies) #10 Mekun on 15 Apr 2009 - 23:45
And just after zune hd leaked,huh. What a coincidence.
#10.1 KeR on 15 Apr 2009 - 23:48
Mekun said,
And just after zune hd leaked,huh. What a coincidence.


Actually this list came out last week, so before Zune HD leak.
#10.2 Xero on 16 Apr 2009 - 01:22
Apple updates their iPhones/iPods every year around the same time. Hardly surprising.

Besides the Zune isn't even a competitor against the iPhone. Now if Apple announced some new iPod touch with similar features as the Zune HD, sure that would be as those aren't due for a refresh until the fall.
#11 Sean2989 on 16 Apr 2009 - 09:27
I'm still more impressed with the Zune HD. I wanna see the iPod touch stand up to it and the iPhone as well.
#12 +macf13nd on 16 Apr 2009 - 12:50
i'm hoping O2 will upgrade me to this for nothing....
#13 artzm on 16 Apr 2009 - 13:26
What is the difference between the CMOS image sensor and the camera since they have 2 different manufacturers?
#14 Matt500 on 16 Apr 2009 - 16:00
I hope the camera has a decent lens, with most camera phones now at 5pm I would have thought Apple would have gone for that. I know a lot of people will say get a separate camera but why when a lot of camera phones now are really decent at 5mp?

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